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Talkin' Baseball
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On A Bright Note

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That was Pallante's last start of the season.
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He was sort of in a season long slump.
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Pallante simply allows too many baserunners. His WHIP is nearly the worst in all of MLB, along with Fedde & Mikolas also in the bottom 10. To think this was the majority of our rotation most of this season.
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Pallante cannot be in the rotation to start 2026. Surely Bloom has a better plan than Mo.
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OTH - if they announce in the offseason that Pallante has attended some sort of pitching lab and discovered a solution to his pitching woes we know nothing has changed.
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MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 23 Sep 2025 22:04 pm He was sort of in a season long slump.
It was mostly August and September though.
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cardstatman wrote: 24 Sep 2025 00:06 am
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 23 Sep 2025 22:04 pm He was sort of in a season long slump.
It was mostly August and September though.
He went from so so to just awful. Shame.
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If they trade Gray we need 3 starters. It might be necessary to keep him (Gray)
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Of 137 ML SPs who threw at least 80 innings:

Liberatore was 97th in K/9 (7.24)
Pallante was 126th in K/9 (6.02)
Mikolas was 132nd in K/9 (5.71)
Fedde was 134th in K/9 (5.59) - 5.58 with STL
McGreevy was 135th in K/9 (5.27)
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mattmitchl44 wrote: 24 Sep 2025 03:33 am Of 137 ML SPs who threw at least 80 innings:

Liberatore was 97th in K/9 (7.24)
Pallante was 126th in K/9 (6.02)
Mikolas was 132nd in K/9 (5.71)
Fedde was 134th in K/9 (5.59) - 5.58 with STL
McGreevy was 135th in K/9 (5.27)
Seems to me it is very difficult to win without a strikeout pitch; even harder to win without a strike out pitcher.
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mattmitchl44 wrote: 24 Sep 2025 03:33 am Of 137 ML SPs who threw at least 80 innings:

Liberatore was 97th in K/9 (7.24)
Pallante was 126th in K/9 (6.02)
Mikolas was 132nd in K/9 (5.71)
Fedde was 134th in K/9 (5.59) - 5.58 with STL
McGreevy was 135th in K/9 (5.27)
That is 5 of the top 6 starters for Cards. The only other starter who is supposed to be the Ace is Gray who will make $35M next year at 36 years old. Gray currently has his worse ERA in the last 7 years at 4.33 ERA and has given up more hits than IP.
The Cardinals could use 5 starting pitchers. All the pitchers on the team are #4 or #5 pitchers at best.
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CardsBest wrote: 24 Sep 2025 06:51 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 24 Sep 2025 03:33 am Of 137 ML SPs who threw at least 80 innings:

Liberatore was 97th in K/9 (7.24)
Pallante was 126th in K/9 (6.02)
Mikolas was 132nd in K/9 (5.71)
Fedde was 134th in K/9 (5.59) - 5.58 with STL
McGreevy was 135th in K/9 (5.27)
That is 5 of the top 6 starters for Cards. The only other starter who is supposed to be the Ace is Gray who will make $35M next year at 36 years old. Gray currently has his worse ERA in the last 7 years at 4.33 ERA and has given up more hits than IP.
The Cardinals could use 5 starting pitchers. All the pitchers on the team are #4 or #5 pitchers at best.
I think Libby will be a fine three. Then Pallante will be the five- a toss up game.

Mcg makes a fine four. Gray a fine two.

Need that stud.
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Remember earlier this year when many of you raved about Pallante in a thread about whether he could be number 2?
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LewisL wrote: 23 Sep 2025 22:07 pm Pallante simply allows too many baserunners. His WHIP is nearly the worst in all of MLB, along with Fedde & Mikolas also in the bottom 10. To think this was the majority of our rotation most of this season.
ugh
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