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Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season

Posted: 16 Aug 2025 10:05 am
by Shady
1) Inconsistent starting pitching staff (all of them except McGreevy)
2) Arenado (lack of offensive production at his salary)
3) Gorman and Walker ( haven't developed like was hoped for)

Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season

Posted: 16 Aug 2025 10:09 am
by Youboughtit
Shady wrote: 16 Aug 2025 10:05 am 1) Inconsistent starting pitching staff (all of them except McGreevy)
2) Arenado (lack of offensive contribution at his salary)
3) Gorman and Walker ( haven't developed like was hoped for)
1. Cutting Budget by $50m
2. No anchor in the MOTO
3. Overvalued youth.

Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season

Posted: 16 Aug 2025 10:31 am
by ramfandan
1. No long term plan
2. No intermediate plan
3. No short term plan

Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season

Posted: 16 Aug 2025 10:32 am
by desertrat23
1. Choosing to delay the entire team’s rebuild for a whole year to allow a farewell tour for John Mozeliak, thereby choosing Mo over the fanbase.

Everything else stems from that.

Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season

Posted: 16 Aug 2025 10:34 am
by rockondlouie
1-BDWJr
2-Mo
3-Oli

Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season

Posted: 16 Aug 2025 10:37 am
by Futuregm2
Shady wrote: 16 Aug 2025 10:05 am 1) Inconsistent starting pitching staff (all of them except McGreevy)
2) Arenado (lack of offensive production at his salary)
3) Gorman and Walker ( haven't developed like was hoped for)
So the starter that has given up 4 runs or more in 4 of his 8 starts is the only consistent one?

Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season

Posted: 16 Aug 2025 10:40 am
by CraigPaquette
Larry (BDW)
Moe (Mo)
Curly (Oli)

Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season

Posted: 16 Aug 2025 10:43 am
by Mort Gage
desertrat23 wrote: 16 Aug 2025 10:32 am 1. Choosing to delay the entire team’s rebuild for a whole year to allow a farewell tour for John Mozeliak, thereby choosing Mo over the fanbase.

Everything else stems from that.
The quest for .500 kept them from clearing out their logjam of positional mediocrity in the offseason and at the deadline. Essentially a wasted season.

Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season

Posted: 16 Aug 2025 10:47 am
by TheFantasyStud
1) Another Top of the Rotation Starter
2) Pages, A light hitting catcher
3) Burleson, Should have been replaced with a real Middle of the Order Bat

Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season

Posted: 16 Aug 2025 10:47 am
by Ozziesfan41
rockondlouie wrote: 16 Aug 2025 10:34 am 1-BDWJr
2-Mo
3-Oli
Curse you you beat me to it! Lol

Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season

Posted: 16 Aug 2025 11:02 am
by 2ninr
desertrat23 wrote: 16 Aug 2025 10:32 am 1. Choosing to delay the entire team’s rebuild for a whole year to allow a farewell tour for John Mozeliak, thereby choosing Mo over the fanbase.

Everything else stems from that.
BOOM!

Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season

Posted: 16 Aug 2025 11:03 am
by 82birds
rockondlouie wrote: 16 Aug 2025 10:34 am 1-BDWJr
2-Mo
3-Oli
you beat me to it Rock

Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season

Posted: 16 Aug 2025 11:09 am
by rockondlouie
82birds wrote: 16 Aug 2025 11:03 am
rockondlouie wrote: 16 Aug 2025 10:34 am 1-BDWJr
2-Mo
3-Oli
you beat me to it Rock
:lol:

Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season

Posted: 16 Aug 2025 11:10 am
by 82birds
rockondlouie wrote: 16 Aug 2025 11:09 am
82birds wrote: 16 Aug 2025 11:03 am
rockondlouie wrote: 16 Aug 2025 10:34 am 1-BDWJr
2-Mo
3-Oli
you beat me to it Rock
:lol:
would have answered sooner/saw the thread earlier, but I don't usually open threads by Shady.

Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season

Posted: 16 Aug 2025 11:12 am
by rockondlouie
82birds wrote: 16 Aug 2025 11:10 am
rockondlouie wrote: 16 Aug 2025 11:09 am
82birds wrote: 16 Aug 2025 11:03 am
rockondlouie wrote: 16 Aug 2025 10:34 am 1-BDWJr
2-Mo
3-Oli
you beat me to it Rock
:lol:
would have answered sooner/saw the thread earlier, but I don't usually open threads by Shady.
Me either unless I can make a point, in this case those three are the obvious answer. :wink:

Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season

Posted: 16 Aug 2025 11:22 am
by The Nard
Youboughtit wrote: 16 Aug 2025 10:09 am
Shady wrote: 16 Aug 2025 10:05 am 1) Inconsistent starting pitching staff (all of them except McGreevy)
2) Arenado (lack of offensive contribution at his salary)
3) Gorman and Walker ( haven't developed like was hoped for)
1. Cutting Budget by $50m
2. No anchor in the MOTO
3. Overvalued youth.
But this was the season where the “youth” would be allowed to play, sink or swim. Surely you didn’t expect them to be playoff-competitive. I actually find it remarkable that they’re around a .500 team