Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season
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Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season
1) Inconsistent starting pitching staff (all of them except McGreevy)
2) Arenado (lack of offensive production at his salary)
3) Gorman and Walker ( haven't developed like was hoped for)
2) Arenado (lack of offensive production at his salary)
3) Gorman and Walker ( haven't developed like was hoped for)
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Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season
1. No long term plan
2. No intermediate plan
3. No short term plan
2. No intermediate plan
3. No short term plan
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Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season
1. Choosing to delay the entire team’s rebuild for a whole year to allow a farewell tour for John Mozeliak, thereby choosing Mo over the fanbase.
Everything else stems from that.
Everything else stems from that.
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Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season
1-BDWJr
2-Mo
3-Oli
2-Mo
3-Oli
Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season
So the starter that has given up 4 runs or more in 4 of his 8 starts is the only consistent one?
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Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season
Larry (BDW)
Moe (Mo)
Curly (Oli)
Moe (Mo)
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Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season
The quest for .500 kept them from clearing out their logjam of positional mediocrity in the offseason and at the deadline. Essentially a wasted season.desertrat23 wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 10:32 am 1. Choosing to delay the entire team’s rebuild for a whole year to allow a farewell tour for John Mozeliak, thereby choosing Mo over the fanbase.
Everything else stems from that.
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Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season
1) Another Top of the Rotation Starter
2) Pages, A light hitting catcher
3) Burleson, Should have been replaced with a real Middle of the Order Bat
2) Pages, A light hitting catcher
3) Burleson, Should have been replaced with a real Middle of the Order Bat
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Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season
Curse you you beat me to it! Lol
Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season
BOOM!desertrat23 wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 10:32 am 1. Choosing to delay the entire team’s rebuild for a whole year to allow a farewell tour for John Mozeliak, thereby choosing Mo over the fanbase.
Everything else stems from that.
Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season
you beat me to it Rock
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Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season
would have answered sooner/saw the thread earlier, but I don't usually open threads by Shady.rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 11:09 am![]()
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Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season
Me either unless I can make a point, in this case those three are the obvious answer.

Re: Three things that handcuffed the Cardinals this season
But this was the season where the “youth” would be allowed to play, sink or swim. Surely you didn’t expect them to be playoff-competitive. I actually find it remarkable that they’re around a .500 teamYouboughtit wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 10:09 am1. Cutting Budget by $50m
2. No anchor in the MOTO
3. Overvalued youth.