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Roster spots to Fernandez, Granillo, and Munoz
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 14:13 pm
by Shady
Kind of surprised by Munoz. He must still be in their pitching plans.
Re: Roster spots to Fernandez, Granillo, and Munoz
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 14:17 pm
by Wattage
Shady wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:13 pm
Kind of surprised by Munoz. He must still be in their pitching plans.
I think its just hes on the 40 and they dont want to add too many players to 40 man
This is his chance to prove he stays on 40 man beyond this season or gets released
Re: Roster spots to Fernandez, Granillo, and Munoz
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 14:26 pm
by Cusecards
Wattage wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:17 pm
Shady wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:13 pm
Kind of surprised by Munoz. He must still be in their pitching plans.
I think its just hes on the 40 and they dont want to add too many players to 40 man
This is his chance to prove he stays on 40 man beyond this season or gets released
Agree
I’m glad they picked the three they did and by-passed Roycroft.
Every time I watched him pitch it reminded me of Earl Weaver nicknaming one of his relievers “Full Pack”.
Anxious to see Fernandez. He was really good in 2024 but was awful at the beginning of this season!
Re: Roster spots to Fernandez, Granillo, and Munoz
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 14:30 pm
by ecleme22
Shady wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:13 pm
Kind of surprised by Munoz. He must still be in their pitching plans.
Sweetheart, it's the day after the deadline and the Cards were sellers.
They are just adding warm bodies...
Re: Roster spots to Fernandez, Granillo, and Munoz
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 14:31 pm
by 82birds
Gorman, Munoz, Fernandez and Granillo for Nado, Helsely, Maton and Matz
how far do we slip below .500 ?
Re: Roster spots to Fernandez, Granillo, and Munoz
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 14:41 pm
by 3dender
82birds wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:31 pm
Gorman, Munoz, Fernandez and Granillo for Nado, Helsely, Maton and Matz
how far do we slip below .500 ?
Production wise:
Gorman = Nado
Granillo = Matz
Fernandez < Maton by maybe 0.5 WAR max over 2 months
Munoz < Helsley by maybe 0.5 WAR over 2 months
So 1 win worse overall... but they were already gonna slip below .500 probably given they went 8-16 against terrible teams in July, and August is a much tougher month.
Re: Roster spots to Fernandez, Granillo, and Munoz
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 14:52 pm
by Ronnie Dobbs
Fernandez has apparently looked much better in Memphis. Then again, it is Memphis. Still, excited to see if he can bring that up to STL.
Re: Roster spots to Fernandez, Granillo, and Munoz
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 15:16 pm
by DickyBennett
No Roycroft is a win in my book
Re: Roster spots to Fernandez, Granillo, and Munoz
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 16:38 pm
by Wattage
Cusecards wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:26 pm
Wattage wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:17 pm
Shady wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:13 pm
Kind of surprised by Munoz. He must still be in their pitching plans.
I think its just hes on the 40 and they dont want to add too many players to 40 man
This is his chance to prove he stays on 40 man beyond this season or gets released
Agree
I’m glad they picked the three they did and by-passed Roycroft.
Every time I watched him pitch it reminded me of Earl Weaver nicknaming one of his relievers “Full Pack”.
Anxious to see Fernandez. He was really good in 2024 but was awful at the beginning of this season!
Roycroft needs an offspeed putch, all he throws is fastballs- no literally.
I thought all i ever saw him throw was fastballs so i looked it up- he only throws 4 seam fastball, 2 seam fastball, and a cut fastball which he only throws 16 percent of the time.
He threw a slider on 2024 instead of the cutter, but seemed to replace that with the cutter this year. Whem he only throws 96 most, you need some variety. The cutter isnt big enough difference as secondary pitch and he barely throws it anyway. Just only fastballs wont work- and he doesnt even locate them that well
Re: Roster spots to Fernandez, Granillo, and Munoz
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 16:40 pm
by Carp4Cy
3dender wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:41 pm
82birds wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:31 pm
Gorman, Munoz, Fernandez and Granillo for Nado, Helsely, Maton and Matz
how far do we slip below .500 ?
Production wise:
Gorman = Nado
Granillo = Matz
Fernandez < Maton by maybe 0.5 WAR max over 2 months
Munoz < Helsley by maybe 0.5 WAR over 2 months
So 1 win worse overall... but they were already gonna slip below .500 probably given they went 8-16 against terrible teams in July, and August is a much tougher month.
This. How much can we miss a reliever anyway when we can't score first or even get a lead to begin with?
Re: Roster spots to Fernandez, Granillo, and Munoz
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 16:49 pm
by smilinjoefission
If O'Brien can have his "come to Jesus" season then anyone can, including Munoz. This is the time to give these guys one last look as the Cards got nothing to play for other than spots for next season. Munoz was a starter...give him some innings and give him some starts and see what happens.
Re: Roster spots to Fernandez, Granillo, and Munoz
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 16:53 pm
by 82birds
Re: Roster spots to Fernandez, Granillo, and Munoz
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 17:03 pm
by Shady
smilinjoefission wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 16:49 pm
If O'Brien can have his "come to Jesus" season then anyone can, including Munoz. This is the time to give these guys one last look as the Cards got nothing to play for other than spots for next season. Munoz was a starter...give him some innings and give him some starts and see what happens.
"Munoz was a starter...give him some innings and give him some starts and see what happens". I agree.
Re: Roster spots to Fernandez, Granillo, and Munoz
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 21:07 pm
by Cusecards
Wattage wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 16:38 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:26 pm
Wattage wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:17 pm
Shady wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:13 pm
Kind of surprised by Munoz. He must still be in their pitching plans.
I think its just hes on the 40 and they dont want to add too many players to 40 man
This is his chance to prove he stays on 40 man beyond this season or gets released
Agree
I’m glad they picked the three they did and by-passed Roycroft.
Every time I watched him pitch it reminded me of Earl Weaver nicknaming one of his relievers “Full Pack”.
Anxious to see Fernandez. He was really good in 2024 but was awful at the beginning of this season!
Roycroft needs an offspeed putch, all he throws is fastballs- no literally.
I thought all i ever saw him throw was fastballs so i looked it up- he only throws 4 seam fastball, 2 seam fastball, and a cut fastball which he only throws 16 percent of the time.
He threw a slider on 2024 instead of the cutter, but seemed to replace that with the cutter this year. Whem he only throws 96 most, you need some variety. The cutter isnt big enough difference as secondary pitch and he barely throws it anyway. Just only fastballs wont work- and he doesnt even locate them that well
His command always seems off.
Obviously I’m no pitching coach but when you watch him he’s always falling off the mound.
Makes me wonder about his mechanics as he struggles with control.
Re: Roster spots to Fernandez, Granillo, and Munoz
Posted: 02 Aug 2025 10:31 am
by rockondlouie
OMG
Fernandez and Munoz
What a cluster F %^&
