Roster spots to Fernandez, Granillo, and Munoz

[Shady]

Kind of surprised by Munoz. He must still be in their pitching plans.

[Wattage]

Kind of surprised by Munoz. He must still be in their pitching plans.

I think its just hes on the 40 and they dont want to add too many players to 40 man

This is his chance to prove he stays on 40 man beyond this season or gets released

[Cusecards]

Kind of surprised by Munoz. He must still be in their pitching plans.

I think its just hes on the 40 and they dont want to add too many players to 40 man

This is his chance to prove he stays on 40 man beyond this season or gets released

Agree
I’m glad they picked the three they did and by-passed Roycroft.
Every time I watched him pitch it reminded me of Earl Weaver nicknaming one of his relievers “Full Pack”.
Anxious to see Fernandez. He was really good in 2024 but was awful at the beginning of this season!

[ecleme22]

Kind of surprised by Munoz. He must still be in their pitching plans.

Sweetheart, it's the day after the deadline and the Cards were sellers.

They are just adding warm bodies...

[82birds]

Gorman, Munoz, Fernandez and Granillo for Nado, Helsely, Maton and Matz

how far do we slip below .500 ?

[3dender]

Gorman, Munoz, Fernandez and Granillo for Nado, Helsely, Maton and Matz

how far do we slip below .500 ?

Production wise:

Gorman = Nado
Granillo = Matz
Fernandez < Maton by maybe 0.5 WAR max over 2 months
Munoz < Helsley by maybe 0.5 WAR over 2 months

So 1 win worse overall... but they were already gonna slip below .500 probably given they went 8-16 against terrible teams in July, and August is a much tougher month.

[Ronnie Dobbs]

Fernandez has apparently looked much better in Memphis. Then again, it is Memphis. Still, excited to see if he can bring that up to STL.

[DickyBennett]

No Roycroft is a win in my book

[Wattage]

Kind of surprised by Munoz. He must still be in their pitching plans.

I think its just hes on the 40 and they dont want to add too many players to 40 man

This is his chance to prove he stays on 40 man beyond this season or gets released

Agree
I’m glad they picked the three they did and by-passed Roycroft.
Every time I watched him pitch it reminded me of Earl Weaver nicknaming one of his relievers “Full Pack”.
Anxious to see Fernandez. He was really good in 2024 but was awful at the beginning of this season!

Roycroft needs an offspeed putch, all he throws is fastballs- no literally.

I thought all i ever saw him throw was fastballs so i looked it up- he only throws 4 seam fastball, 2 seam fastball, and a cut fastball which he only throws 16 percent of the time.

He threw a slider on 2024 instead of the cutter, but seemed to replace that with the cutter this year. Whem he only throws 96 most, you need some variety. The cutter isnt big enough difference as secondary pitch and he barely throws it anyway. Just only fastballs wont work- and he doesnt even locate them that well

[Carp4Cy]

Gorman, Munoz, Fernandez and Granillo for Nado, Helsely, Maton and Matz

how far do we slip below .500 ?

Production wise:

Gorman = Nado
Granillo = Matz
Fernandez < Maton by maybe 0.5 WAR max over 2 months
Munoz < Helsley by maybe 0.5 WAR over 2 months

So 1 win worse overall... but they were already gonna slip below .500 probably given they went 8-16 against terrible teams in July, and August is a much tougher month.

This. How much can we miss a reliever anyway when we can't score first or even get a lead to begin with?

[smilinjoefission]

If O'Brien can have his "come to Jesus" season then anyone can, including Munoz. This is the time to give these guys one last look as the Cards got nothing to play for other than spots for next season. Munoz was a starter...give him some innings and give him some starts and see what happens.

[82birds]

No Roycroft is a win in my book

agree

[Shady]

If O'Brien can have his "come to Jesus" season then anyone can, including Munoz. This is the time to give these guys one last look as the Cards got nothing to play for other than spots for next season. Munoz was a starter...give him some innings and give him some starts and see what happens.

"Munoz was a starter...give him some innings and give him some starts and see what happens". I agree.

[Cusecards]

Kind of surprised by Munoz. He must still be in their pitching plans.

I think its just hes on the 40 and they dont want to add too many players to 40 man

This is his chance to prove he stays on 40 man beyond this season or gets released

Agree
I’m glad they picked the three they did and by-passed Roycroft.
Every time I watched him pitch it reminded me of Earl Weaver nicknaming one of his relievers “Full Pack”.
Anxious to see Fernandez. He was really good in 2024 but was awful at the beginning of this season!

Roycroft needs an offspeed putch, all he throws is fastballs- no literally.

I thought all i ever saw him throw was fastballs so i looked it up- he only throws 4 seam fastball, 2 seam fastball, and a cut fastball which he only throws 16 percent of the time.

He threw a slider on 2024 instead of the cutter, but seemed to replace that with the cutter this year. Whem he only throws 96 most, you need some variety. The cutter isnt big enough difference as secondary pitch and he barely throws it anyway. Just only fastballs wont work- and he doesnt even locate them that well

His command always seems off.
Obviously I’m no pitching coach but when you watch him he’s always falling off the mound.
Makes me wonder about his mechanics as he struggles with control.

[rockondlouie]

OMG

Fernandez and Munoz

What a cluster F %^&