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We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 11:39 am
by ScotchMIrish
People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 11:58 am
by 45s
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am
People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
It’s a barely .500 team…….Donovan, for his positives, is not elevating this club to contender status.
If they don’t move him, he will still be surrounded by mediocrity next year, so where is the value in keeping him?
Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 12:06 pm
by rockondlouie
And that load of prospects Mo got in that selloff two years ago have amounted to a BIG FAT NOTHING!
Why I'm not confident he'll get much for Helsley, Maton, Matz etal if they're dealt unless C. Bloom is making the call.
Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 12:11 pm
by CorneliusWolfe
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am
People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
Yes! Prospects always work out and live up to the hype. Especially when Mo the prospect whisperer acquires them.
Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
by scoutyjones2
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am
People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
So Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.
Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 12:13 pm
by scoutyjones2
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am
People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
How'd they finish 3 years ago?
Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 12:16 pm
by Ronnie Dobbs
Another rebuild? Did I miss the first one?
Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 12:17 pm
by CorneliusWolfe
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am
People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
So Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.
Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
…but he’s so scrappy!
Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
by 45s
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am
People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
So Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.
Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
Donovan has a cult like following……..
Can’t reason with them….
Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 12:20 pm
by scoutyjones2
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:17 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am
People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
So Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.
Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
…but he’s so scrappy!
My least favorite Doo

Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 12:21 pm
by scoutyjones2
45s wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am
People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
So Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.
Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
Donovan has a cult like following……..
Can’t reason with them….
He has value as a trade chip and to other teams, justt not for a team like the Cards
Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 12:26 pm
by 45s
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:21 pm
45s wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am
People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
So Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.
Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
Donovan has a cult like following……..
Can’t reason with them….
He has value as a trade chip and to other teams, justt not for a team like the Cards
I have tried to sell ….pardon the pun…..that position for a long time…
I will now yield the leadership on that subject to you…
Good Luck
Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 12:27 pm
by scoutyjones2
45s wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:26 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:21 pm
45s wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am
People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
So Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.
Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
Donovan has a cult like following……..
Can’t reason with them….
He has value as a trade chip and to other teams, justt not for a team like the Cards
I have tried to sell ….pardon the pun…..that position for a long time…
I will now yield the leadership on that subject to you…
Good Luck
I think we both fail on this...but at least I'm not being asked why I hate Hurdy Gursy

Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 12:41 pm
by rockondlouie
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:27 pm
I think we both fail on this...but
at least I'm not being asked why I hate Hurdy Gursy
You only get that if you
dare to mention trading Winn.

Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 13:01 pm
by ScotchMIrish
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:21 pm
45s wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am
People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
So Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.
Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
Donovan has a cult like following……..
Can’t reason with them….
He has value as a trade chip and to other teams, justt not for a team like the Cards
That's clear as mud. What player would have value for the Cards? A prospect who we can dream about being the next Pujols?
Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 13:31 pm
by Carp4Cy
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am
People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
No. If we trade him, it has to be for immediate MLB roster impact. No more of these far away prospects that never pan out.