We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
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We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
It’s a barely .500 team…….Donovan, for his positives, is not elevating this club to contender status.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
If they don’t move him, he will still be surrounded by mediocrity next year, so where is the value in keeping him?
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Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
And that load of prospects Mo got in that selloff two years ago have amounted to a BIG FAT NOTHING!
Why I'm not confident he'll get much for Helsley, Maton, Matz etal if they're dealt unless C. Bloom is making the call.
Why I'm not confident he'll get much for Helsley, Maton, Matz etal if they're dealt unless C. Bloom is making the call.
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Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Yes! Prospects always work out and live up to the hype. Especially when Mo the prospect whisperer acquires them.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
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Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
So Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
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Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
How'd they finish 3 years ago?ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
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Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Another rebuild? Did I miss the first one?
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Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
…but he’s so scrappy!scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:12 pmSo Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
Donovan has a cult like following……..scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:12 pmSo Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
Can’t reason with them….
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Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
My least favorite DooCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:17 pm…but he’s so scrappy!scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:12 pmSo Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex

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Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
He has value as a trade chip and to other teams, justt not for a team like the Cards45s wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:18 pmDonovan has a cult like following……..scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:12 pmSo Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
Can’t reason with them….
Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
I have tried to sell ….pardon the pun…..that position for a long time…scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:21 pmHe has value as a trade chip and to other teams, justt not for a team like the Cards45s wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:18 pmDonovan has a cult like following……..scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:12 pmSo Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
Can’t reason with them….
I will now yield the leadership on that subject to you…
Good Luck
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Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
I think we both fail on this...but at least I'm not being asked why I hate Hurdy Gursy45s wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:26 pmI have tried to sell ….pardon the pun…..that position for a long time…scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:21 pmHe has value as a trade chip and to other teams, justt not for a team like the Cards45s wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:18 pmDonovan has a cult like following……..scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:12 pmSo Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
Can’t reason with them….
I will now yield the leadership on that subject to you…
Good Luck

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Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
You only get that if you dare to mention trading Winn.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:27 pm I think we both fail on this...but at least I'm not being asked why I hate Hurdy Gursy![]()

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Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
That's clear as mud. What player would have value for the Cards? A prospect who we can dream about being the next Pujols?scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:21 pmHe has value as a trade chip and to other teams, justt not for a team like the Cards45s wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:18 pmDonovan has a cult like following……..scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 12:12 pmSo Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
Can’t reason with them….
Re: We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?
No. If we trade him, it has to be for immediate MLB roster impact. No more of these far away prospects that never pan out.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?