We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?

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We finished last 2 years ago. Now a dump and rebuild?

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People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
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ScotchMIrish wrote: 27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
It’s a barely .500 team…….Donovan, for his positives, is not elevating this club to contender status.

If they don’t move him, he will still be surrounded by mediocrity next year, so where is the value in keeping him?
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And that load of prospects Mo got in that selloff two years ago have amounted to a BIG FAT NOTHING!

Why I'm not confident he'll get much for Helsley, Maton, Matz etal if they're dealt unless C. Bloom is making the call.
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ScotchMIrish wrote: 27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
Yes! Prospects always work out and live up to the hype. Especially when Mo the prospect whisperer acquires them.
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ScotchMIrish wrote: 27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
So Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.

Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
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ScotchMIrish wrote: 27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
How'd they finish 3 years ago?
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Another rebuild? Did I miss the first one?
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
So Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.

Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
…but he’s so scrappy!
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
So Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.

Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
Donovan has a cult like following……..

Can’t reason with them….
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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:17 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
So Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.

Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
…but he’s so scrappy!
My least favorite Doo :lol:
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45s wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
So Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.

Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
Donovan has a cult like following……..

Can’t reason with them….
He has value as a trade chip and to other teams, justt not for a team like the Cards
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:21 pm
45s wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
So Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.

Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
Donovan has a cult like following……..

Can’t reason with them….
He has value as a trade chip and to other teams, justt not for a team like the Cards
I have tried to sell ….pardon the pun…..that position for a long time…

I will now yield the leadership on that subject to you…

Good Luck
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45s wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:26 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:21 pm
45s wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
So Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.

Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
Donovan has a cult like following……..

Can’t reason with them….
He has value as a trade chip and to other teams, justt not for a team like the Cards
I have tried to sell ….pardon the pun…..that position for a long time…

I will now yield the leadership on that subject to you…

Good Luck
I think we both fail on this...but at least I'm not being asked why I hate Hurdy Gursy :lol:
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:27 pm I think we both fail on this...but at least I'm not being asked why I hate Hurdy Gursy :lol:
You only get that if you dare to mention trading Winn. :lol:
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:21 pm
45s wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
So Hurdy is a player you build around? I'm not buying that. In 2028, he's a free agent. Arb eligible this off-season and turns 29. Plays, no special defense at 2b. Quite average at best...but he would be a good piece for a contender.

Sell...sell now while his value is at its apex
Donovan has a cult like following……..

Can’t reason with them….
He has value as a trade chip and to other teams, justt not for a team like the Cards
That's clear as mud. What player would have value for the Cards? A prospect who we can dream about being the next Pujols?
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ScotchMIrish wrote: 27 Jul 2025 11:39 am People want to trade Donovan? Then what. 100 loss team for a year or two. Then what? We get 3 years out of the prospects and trade them for another rebuild?
No. If we trade him, it has to be for immediate MLB roster impact. No more of these far away prospects that never pan out.
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