Leafs could accuse Vegas of tampering with Marner

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Leafs could accuse Vegas of tampering with Marner

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Friedman stated on his podcast that if Vegas signs Marner, the leafs could accuse Vegas of tampering. He was clear that he has no evidence, but has heard it from a couple sources. He also mentioned that the league is “itching” to make an example out of someone.

However, he also reported that if it were a trade for rights or a sign and trade then the accusations would likely never happen.

Is this the Leags posturing to get s better deal? Rather than just letting Marner walk for nothing?
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Who here besides banned guy thinks this is past Vegas to tamper?
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dhsux wrote: 29 Jun 2025 19:19 pm Who here besides banned guy thinks this is past Vegas to tamper?
The mods suggested you stop calling me out on multiple occasions. You can’t control yourself

Look at your post history

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Actually, the Kings might be the aggrieved party here. What I read (Hockeybuzz - so probably not happening) is that TOR was negotiating a rights swap with either LVK or LAK, and LAK eventually found out theyre just in this to drive up prices. They're upset, and accusing LVK of tampering.
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I remember reading that the Blues thought Vegas tampered when they signed Petro.
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Knies just signed for 6 x $7.75. That’s a heck of a deal. Do JT and Knies for likely less than Marner alone
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Atlantis17A wrote: 29 Jun 2025 19:48 pm I remember reading that the Blues thought Vegas tampered when they signed Petro.
It was widely known before free agency started that the only team he was considering outside of St. Louis was Vegas. That doesn’t happen without tampering. It’s a league-wide epidemic… guys signing life altering contracts minutes after the free agency period starts (tbf Petro did not do that, he still waited). As though that’s remotely possible without breaking the rules. But the league also does it to themselves. For a few years there was an official negotiating window for several days before free agency started, and they did away with it. Go back to that and it won’t be an issue.
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MiamiLaw wrote: 29 Jun 2025 20:53 pm Knies just signed for 6 x $7.75. That’s a heck of a deal. Do JT and Knies for likely less than Marner alone
WOW... An RFA without hitting 30 goals snagged $7.75 MILLION... Thanks Leafs for messing up the market.
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Hockey Pete wrote: 30 Jun 2025 01:05 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 29 Jun 2025 20:53 pm Knies just signed for 6 x $7.75. That’s a heck of a deal. Do JT and Knies for likely less than Marner alone
WOW... An RFA without hitting 30 goals snagged $7.75 MILLION... Thanks Leafs for messing up the market.
That’s my read of it too.

Holloway scored more pts in fewer games. He’s going to want a contract like that too now.

Leafs players seems to consistently get overpaid IMO.
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STL fan in MN wrote: 30 Jun 2025 01:22 am
Hockey Pete wrote: 30 Jun 2025 01:05 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 29 Jun 2025 20:53 pm Knies just signed for 6 x $7.75. That’s a heck of a deal. Do JT and Knies for likely less than Marner alone
WOW... An RFA without hitting 30 goals snagged $7.75 MILLION... Thanks Leafs for messing up the market.
That’s my read of it too.

Holloway scored more pts in fewer games. He’s going to want a contract like that too now.

Leafs players seems to consistently get overpaid IMO.
He played 18.5 minutes this year and more than that in the playoffs on a very talented team. He also was physical and took a big step forward. You pay for those things.
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There is obviously tampering going on all over the place and I would guess all kinds of cheating. For example I don't believe for a second that the leafs are only paying Tavares 4.38 million.
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theograce wrote: 30 Jun 2025 01:24 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 30 Jun 2025 01:22 am
Hockey Pete wrote: 30 Jun 2025 01:05 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 29 Jun 2025 20:53 pm Knies just signed for 6 x $7.75. That’s a heck of a deal. Do JT and Knies for likely less than Marner alone
WOW... An RFA without hitting 30 goals snagged $7.75 MILLION... Thanks Leafs for messing up the market.
That’s my read of it too.

Holloway scored more pts in fewer games. He’s going to want a contract like that too now.

Leafs players seems to consistently get overpaid IMO.
He played 18.5 minutes this year and more than that in the playoffs on a very talented team. He also was physical and took a big step forward. You pay for those things.
Yea Knies might have been the most consistently noticeable player for the Leafs. I’d take that deal all day for him.

But yea MN, Holloway is getting at least that. He always was. Why would he sign long term otherwise?
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MiamiLaw wrote: 30 Jun 2025 08:12 am
theograce wrote: 30 Jun 2025 01:24 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 30 Jun 2025 01:22 am
Hockey Pete wrote: 30 Jun 2025 01:05 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 29 Jun 2025 20:53 pm Knies just signed for 6 x $7.75. That’s a heck of a deal. Do JT and Knies for likely less than Marner alone
WOW... An RFA without hitting 30 goals snagged $7.75 MILLION... Thanks Leafs for messing up the market.
That’s my read of it too.

Holloway scored more pts in fewer games. He’s going to want a contract like that too now.

Leafs players seems to consistently get overpaid IMO.
He played 18.5 minutes this year and more than that in the playoffs on a very talented team. He also was physical and took a big step forward. You pay for those things.
Yea Knies might have been the most consistently noticeable player for the Leafs. I’d take that deal all day for him.

But yea MN, Holloway is getting at least that. He always was. Why would he sign long term otherwise?
Knies has real promise, but he's had ONE solid NHL season and still has holes in his game (foot-speed and he still gets a bit lost at times). He very well could turn into the PF the Leaf's need, but after those last four games in the playoffs this year (Florida OWNED him) he still has some growing to do.

That said, they did pick-up a few of his UFA years so there is that, but paying $7.5 Million for a kid who didn't hit 60pts is going to hit the league hard.
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Hockey Pete wrote: 30 Jun 2025 09:22 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 30 Jun 2025 08:12 am
theograce wrote: 30 Jun 2025 01:24 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 30 Jun 2025 01:22 am
Hockey Pete wrote: 30 Jun 2025 01:05 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 29 Jun 2025 20:53 pm Knies just signed for 6 x $7.75. That’s a heck of a deal. Do JT and Knies for likely less than Marner alone
WOW... An RFA without hitting 30 goals snagged $7.75 MILLION... Thanks Leafs for messing up the market.
That’s my read of it too.

Holloway scored more pts in fewer games. He’s going to want a contract like that too now.

Leafs players seems to consistently get overpaid IMO.
He played 18.5 minutes this year and more than that in the playoffs on a very talented team. He also was physical and took a big step forward. You pay for those things.
Yea Knies might have been the most consistently noticeable player for the Leafs. I’d take that deal all day for him.

But yea MN, Holloway is getting at least that. He always was. Why would he sign long term otherwise?
Knies has real promise, but he's had ONE solid NHL season and still has holes in his game (foot-speed and he still gets a bit lost at times). He very well could turn into the PF the Leaf's need, but after those last four games in the playoffs this year (Florida OWNED him) he still has some growing to do.

That said, they did pick-up a few of his UFA years so there is that, but paying $7.5 Million for a kid who didn't hit 60pts is going to hit the league hard.
Nah that was coming no matter what the leafs did here.
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skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 09:34 am
Hockey Pete wrote: 30 Jun 2025 09:22 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 30 Jun 2025 08:12 am
theograce wrote: 30 Jun 2025 01:24 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 30 Jun 2025 01:22 am
Hockey Pete wrote: 30 Jun 2025 01:05 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 29 Jun 2025 20:53 pm Knies just signed for 6 x $7.75. That’s a heck of a deal. Do JT and Knies for likely less than Marner alone
WOW... An RFA without hitting 30 goals snagged $7.75 MILLION... Thanks Leafs for messing up the market.
That’s my read of it too.

Holloway scored more pts in fewer games. He’s going to want a contract like that too now.

Leafs players seems to consistently get overpaid IMO.
He played 18.5 minutes this year and more than that in the playoffs on a very talented team. He also was physical and took a big step forward. You pay for those things.
Yea Knies might have been the most consistently noticeable player for the Leafs. I’d take that deal all day for him.

But yea MN, Holloway is getting at least that. He always was. Why would he sign long term otherwise?
Knies has real promise, but he's had ONE solid NHL season and still has holes in his game (foot-speed and he still gets a bit lost at times). He very well could turn into the PF the Leaf's need, but after those last four games in the playoffs this year (Florida OWNED him) he still has some growing to do.

That said, they did pick-up a few of his UFA years so there is that, but paying $7.5 Million for a kid who didn't hit 60pts is going to hit the league hard.
Nah that was coming no matter what the leafs did here.
The cap is headed north of 110M. No stopping it.
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Hockey Pete wrote: 30 Jun 2025 09:22 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 30 Jun 2025 08:12 am
theograce wrote: 30 Jun 2025 01:24 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 30 Jun 2025 01:22 am
Hockey Pete wrote: 30 Jun 2025 01:05 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 29 Jun 2025 20:53 pm Knies just signed for 6 x $7.75. That’s a heck of a deal. Do JT and Knies for likely less than Marner alone
WOW... An RFA without hitting 30 goals snagged $7.75 MILLION... Thanks Leafs for messing up the market.
That’s my read of it too.

Holloway scored more pts in fewer games. He’s going to want a contract like that too now.

Leafs players seems to consistently get overpaid IMO.
He played 18.5 minutes this year and more than that in the playoffs on a very talented team. He also was physical and took a big step forward. You pay for those things.
Yea Knies might have been the most consistently noticeable player for the Leafs. I’d take that deal all day for him.

But yea MN, Holloway is getting at least that. He always was. Why would he sign long term otherwise?
Knies has real promise, but he's had ONE solid NHL season and still has holes in his game (foot-speed and he still gets a bit lost at times). He very well could turn into the PF the Leaf's need, but after those last four games in the playoffs this year (Florida OWNED him) he still has some growing to do.

That said, they did pick-up a few of his UFA years so there is that, but paying $7.5 Million for a kid who didn't hit 60pts is going to hit the league hard.
Honestly I think they saved themselves money. If I was a betting man, just watching Knies, I would say with very high confidence he will get better and better absent some insane injury. He is not going to be cheaper to sign in three years if they gave him a bridge.

I think this is the new NHL thinking. Lock up guys on the younger side before they break out even if you have to pay more on the front end than you could get on a shorter deal.
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