GDT : Cards @ Giants (9/22) ~ 8:45pm CDT

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Re: GDT : Cards @ Giants (9/22) ~ 8:45pm CDT

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My two offseason wishes:
1) Address the rotation.
2) Unload Noot.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Giants (9/22) ~ 8:45pm CDT

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cbcloud wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:18 pm
82birds wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:07 pm
BIG J wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:06 pm How does Walker not sell that as going off the top of his foot???
I had the same thought.
...Blame that on the HP ump... If he dosen't call "foul" immediately, ya gotta run. Makes no difference of the batter's opinion... Walker woulda been criticized if he DIDN'T run... Whole crew of umps blew that call... SOMEBODY should have seen the ball hit off Walker's foot...
No one would have blamed him for not running on a foul ball clearly off his foot he should have stayed put and argued and ump would have asked for help. By running he made it look like it was the right call
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Giants (9/22) ~ 8:45pm CDT

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Burley comes through

Tie Game
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Giants (9/22) ~ 8:45pm CDT

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Hoosier59 wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:18 pm I think Nootbaar knows his days are numbered St. Louis, and that’s why he can’t hit a lick right now.
No.
you try to do the best you can whether you think you are Card or not nexy year.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Giants (9/22) ~ 8:45pm CDT

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Whatashame wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:15 pm
12xu wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:08 pm
BIG J wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:06 pm How does Walker not sell that as going off the top of his foot???
My sentiments exactly.

Walker did the right thing. If he doesn’t hear anything he has to run. Standing there and getting thrown out would have looked worse. Only if Saggese would have just ran and not umpired the play.
If you are correct, he still did the wrong thing by not just staying at first. Too many baserunning blunders...
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Giants (9/22) ~ 8:45pm CDT

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thankfully, Devers has the range and mobility of a Slug
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Giants (9/22) ~ 8:45pm CDT

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ramfandan wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:16 pm
82birds wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:06 pm wth umpires?
ONE of you should have seen that fouled off his foot.
If a the ball is batted off the foot , it can be a ball 'in play' if the umpire determines the foot was in fair territory at the time it was struck .
Here is summary of the rule :

Yes, a ball hitting the batter's foot and going fair is considered a fair ball in play, provided the batter's foot is in fair territory when it'(poop). The location of the ball determines fair or foul, not the location of the batter's body or feet when the ball hits them, but the part of the body that is hit. The ball remains in play.

So that is why Walker had to run that ball out .
Excellent post! It's easy to forget that a part of the batter's box is in fair territory. Would like to see another replay now.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Giants (9/22) ~ 8:45pm CDT

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Nice hit on that low pitch Burleson!
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Giants (9/22) ~ 8:45pm CDT

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82birds wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:21 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:18 pm I think Nootbaar knows his days are numbered St. Louis, and that’s why he can’t hit a lick right now.
No.
you try to do the best you can whether you think you are Card or not nexy year.
Oh think he is trying, he’s just disappointed and probably trying too hard.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Giants (9/22) ~ 8:45pm CDT

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hmoss859 wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:16 pm How do 4 umpires, the baserunner and batter all miss that

Walker immediately knows and runs to first, wtf
Here is the rule : The umpire ruled the ball was 'in play' based on the following :

Yes, a ball hitting the batter's foot and going fair is considered a fair ball in play, provided the batter's foot is in fair territory when it'(poop). The location of the ball determines fair or foul, not the location of the batter's body or feet when the ball hits them, but the part of the body that is hit. The ball remains in play.

So that is why Walker had to run that ball out .

The umpires know rules that most fans have no clue about . Sure Oli knows that rule too but he was probably arguing that Walker's foot was NOT in fair territory is my guess . Now I do not know the following as I am not an umpire or have a rule book .. just a guess that play is probably non-reviewable just like a ball trickling down the foul line between home plate and first )or third , and the home plate umpire rules the ball fair or foul. Those calls are Non-reviewable too .. balls that land PAST 1s base bag or 3rd base bag are reviewable for fair or foul calls.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Giants (9/22) ~ 8:45pm CDT

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82birds wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:21 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:18 pm I think Nootbaar knows his days are numbered St. Louis, and that’s why he can’t hit a lick right now.
No.
you try to do the best you can whether you think you are Card or not nexy year.
+1 he’s costing himself money by sucking
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Giants (9/22) ~ 8:45pm CDT

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Is Noot done with Arb years?
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slimjay63801 wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:21 pm
Whatashame wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:15 pm
12xu wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:08 pm
BIG J wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:06 pm How does Walker not sell that as going off the top of his foot???
My sentiments exactly.

Walker did the right thing. If he doesn’t hear anything he has to run. Standing there and getting thrown out would have looked worse. Only if Saggese would have just ran and not umpired the play.
If you are correct, he still did the wrong thing by not just staying at first. Too many baserunning blunders...
That is what puzzled me, and the way Saggese walked toward home. Just stupid base running all around.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Giants (9/22) ~ 8:45pm CDT

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Walker should not have been thrown out at second though
That is poor base running
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Giants (9/22) ~ 8:45pm CDT

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craviduce wrote: 22 Sep 2025 21:23 pm Is Noot done with Arb years?
nope...he has 2 more years of Arb
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Giants (9/22) ~ 8:45pm CDT

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I can't believe the 1b ump didn't immediately call time and yell foul ball.
Eyes shut over there buddy?
do your job dufus
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