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Re: Saggese looks solid at 3B and 2B defensively
Posted: 11 Aug 2025 20:50 pm
by Cranny
DwaininAztec wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:46 pm
With these kinds of standards, Winn would never have been back after his sad first season.
Very true.
Re: Saggese looks solid at 3B and 2B defensively
Posted: 11 Aug 2025 20:51 pm
by Adam2
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:15 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 19:50 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 19:44 pm
Just had a nice hit against a tough pitcher.
6.50 ERA is tough these days?
you're supposed to be better than that.
Pretty tough tonight, Craviduce. Given up one run so far. By the away, why would you make a troll post like that? Cause there are no MILB gsmes tonight?
Wow how the standards have fallen. Is that Pedro Martinez out there? No it's a guy with an ERA worse than Fedde
Re: Saggese looks solid at 3B and 2B defensively
Posted: 11 Aug 2025 20:54 pm
by Cranny
Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:51 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:15 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 19:50 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 19:44 pm
Just had a nice hit against a tough pitcher.
6.50 ERA is tough these days?
you're supposed to be better than that.
Pretty tough tonight, Craviduce. Given up one run so far. By the away, why would you make a troll post like that? Cause there are no MILB gsmes tonight?
Wow how the standards have fallen. Is that Pedro Martinez out there? No it's a guy with an ERA worse than Fedde
Saggese’s 3 out of 4 tonight.
Re: Saggese looks solid at 3B and 2B defensively
Posted: 11 Aug 2025 20:58 pm
by hmoss859
Barrys_head wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 18:34 pm
I just watched the pregame interview with Jim Hayes and Saggese. Thomas seems to be a polite, dedicated young man. He appears to have a slight build, the Cat looked buffed compared to him. Lol Maybe if Saggase hits the weight room he could be the future at 2b. I wish him well as a Cardinal.
Burley needs to lose 15
Saggesse needs to gain 15
Re: Saggese looks solid at 3B and 2B defensively
Posted: 11 Aug 2025 21:40 pm
by Quincy Varnish
craviduce wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 19:50 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 19:44 pm
Just had a nice hit against a tough pitcher.
6.50 ERA is tough these days?
you're supposed to be better than that.
Dollander was ranked ahead of Misiorowski & Chase Burns by all the prospect dudes coming into ‘25. That seems tough.
Re: Saggese looks solid at 3B and 2B defensively
Posted: 11 Aug 2025 22:45 pm
by ramfandan
With Saggese getting some hits and Gorman making throwing errors at 3rd , it appears Saggese could have more playing time in final 6 weeks .
Wtherholt will be playing a lot too .
Gorman may have to fight for his at bats as a DH down the stretch whatever number they are.
Re: Saggese looks solid at 3B and 2B defensively
Posted: 12 Aug 2025 07:43 am
by Cranny
ramfandan wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 22:45 pm
With Saggese getting some hits and Gorman making throwing errors at 3rd , it appears Saggese could have more playing time in final 6 weeks .
Wtherholt will be playing a lot too .
Gorman may have to fight for his at bats as a DH down the stretch whatever number they are.
I wonder who’s better at 3B - Wetherholt or Saggese.
Re: Saggese looks solid at 3B and 2B defensively
Posted: 12 Aug 2025 07:55 am
by redbirdfan51
It will be an interesting off season for sure. I do think Wetherholt will be a starter out of Spring Training. I think Saggese could also be a starter or super utility player. There are a lot of things to happen in the off season to make it happen.
Re: Saggese looks solid at 3B and 2B defensively
Posted: 12 Aug 2025 08:02 am
by Cranny
redbirdfan51 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 07:55 am
It will be an interesting off season for sure. I do think Wetherholt will be a starter out of Spring Training. I think Saggese could also be a starter or super utility player. There are a lot of things to happen in the off season to make it happen.
Just wonder who has the strongest arm from 3B.
Re: Saggese looks solid at 3B and 2B defensively
Posted: 12 Aug 2025 08:07 am
by Lightning Rod
ramfandan wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 22:45 pm
With Saggese getting some hits and Gorman making throwing errors at 3rd , it appears Saggese could have more playing time in final 6 weeks .
Wtherholt will be playing a lot too .
Gorman may have to fight for his at bats as a DH down the stretch whatever number they are.
After watching Gorman the last few games I would expect to see Saggese at third most nights if Nado isn't available, but it's hard to figure Oli sometimes.
Re: Saggese looks solid at 3B and 2B defensively
Posted: 12 Aug 2025 09:51 am
by Shady
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:54 pm
Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:51 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:15 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 19:50 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 19:44 pm
Just had a nice hit against a tough pitcher.
6.50 ERA is tough these days?
you're supposed to be better than that.
Pretty tough tonight, Craviduce. Given up one run so far. By the away, why would you make a troll post like that? Cause there are no MILB gsmes tonight?
Wow how the standards have fallen. Is that Pedro Martinez out there? No it's a guy with an ERA worse than Fedde
Saggese’s 3 out of 4 tonight.
Saggese has upped his BA to .258. Contreras is at .256. Gorman's is .226.
Re: Saggese looks solid at 3B and 2B defensively
Posted: 12 Aug 2025 09:57 am
by NYCardsFan
Shady wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 09:51 am
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:54 pm
Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:51 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:15 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 19:50 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 19:44 pm
Just had a nice hit against a tough pitcher.
6.50 ERA is tough these days?
you're supposed to be better than that.
Pretty tough tonight, Craviduce. Given up one run so far. By the away, why would you make a troll post like that? Cause there are no MILB gsmes tonight?
Wow how the standards have fallen. Is that Pedro Martinez out there? No it's a guy with an ERA worse than Fedde
Saggese’s 3 out of 4 tonight.
Saggese has upped his BA to .258. Contreras is at .256. Gorman's is .226.
And?
Contreras: 123 wRC+, 121 OPS+
Gorman: 104 wRC+, 104 OPS+
Saggese: 82 wRC+, 83 OPS+ (in a whole 128 PAs!)
What’s your point?
Re: Saggese looks solid at 3B and 2B defensively
Posted: 12 Aug 2025 10:31 am
by Cranny
Shady wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 09:51 am
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:54 pm
Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:51 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:15 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 19:50 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 19:44 pm
Just had a nice hit against a tough pitcher.
6.50 ERA is tough these days?
you're supposed to be better than that.
Pretty tough tonight, Craviduce. Given up one run so far. By the away, why would you make a troll post like that? Cause there are no MILB gsmes tonight?
Wow how the standards have fallen. Is that Pedro Martinez out there? No it's a guy with an ERA worse than Fedde
Saggese’s 3 out of 4 tonight.
Saggese has upped his BA to .258. Contreras is at .256. Gorman's is .226.
I like his ”all out” play. And he’s only 23 years old.
Could have a bright future.
Re: Saggese looks solid at 3B and 2B defensively
Posted: 12 Aug 2025 10:43 am
by Cranny
NYCardsFan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 09:57 am
Shady wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 09:51 am
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:54 pm
Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:51 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:15 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 19:50 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 19:44 pm
Just had a nice hit against a tough pitcher.
6.50 ERA is tough these days?
you're supposed to be better than that.
Pretty tough tonight, Craviduce. Given up one run so far. By the away, why would you make a troll post like that? Cause there are no MILB gsmes tonight?
Wow how the standards have fallen. Is that Pedro Martinez out there? No it's a guy with an ERA worse than Fedde
Saggese’s 3 out of 4 tonight.
Saggese has upped his BA to .258. Contreras is at .256. Gorman's is .226.
And?
Contreras: 123 wRC+, 121 OPS+
Gorman: 104 wRC+, 104 OPS+
Saggese: 82 wRC+, 83 OPS+ (in a whole 128 PAs!)
What’s your point?
Saggese - 23 YO, 180 ML PAs
Gorman - 25 YO, 1,434 ML PAs
Contreras - 33 YO, 4,182 ML PAs
Self explanatory. You’re comparing apples and oranges.
Re: Saggese looks solid at 3B and 2B defensively
Posted: 12 Aug 2025 10:45 am
by NYCardsFan
Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:43 am
NYCardsFan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 09:57 am
Shady wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 09:51 am
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:54 pm
Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:51 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 20:15 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 19:50 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 19:44 pm
Just had a nice hit against a tough pitcher.
6.50 ERA is tough these days?
you're supposed to be better than that.
Pretty tough tonight, Craviduce. Given up one run so far. By the away, why would you make a troll post like that? Cause there are no MILB gsmes tonight?
Wow how the standards have fallen. Is that Pedro Martinez out there? No it's a guy with an ERA worse than Fedde
Saggese’s 3 out of 4 tonight.
Saggese has upped his BA to .258. Contreras is at .256. Gorman's is .226.
And?
Contreras: 123 wRC+, 121 OPS+
Gorman: 104 wRC+, 104 OPS+
Saggese: 82 wRC+, 83 OPS+ (in a whole 128 PAs!)
What’s your point?
Saggese - 23 YO, 180 ML PAs
Gorman - 25 YO, 1,434 ML PAs
Contreras - 33 YO, 4,182 ML PAs
Self explanatory. You’re comparing apples and oranges.
I wasn’t the one doing the comparing, Shady was.
“But you already knew that.”
Re: Saggese looks solid at 3B and 2B defensively
Posted: 12 Aug 2025 10:55 am
by Cranny
You’re the one comparing stats, with no reference to ML experience (PAs) or age.
By the way, do you reside in the Buffalo area, Binghamton area, Albany area, Westchester area, the 5 Boroughs, or LI (south or north shore)?