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Re: This organization deserves failure

Posted: 21 Mar 2025 09:34 am
by desertrat23
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 08:35 am
desertrat23 wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:16 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:10 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 20 Mar 2025 19:39 pm Looks like front office has signed up a couple more cards talk sycophants to defend them

It’s really pathetic people are misguided in their thought process

Blind sheep do exist
Not a sycophant. Just a consistent Cardinal fan through both highs and lows.
Everyone here is. Don’t be self-righteous.
Really? Even the constant bashers?
Absolutely. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. People aren’t “bashing” ownership and management, they’re rightly frustrated about the decline of a once-proud franchise that they love. Could we stick our heads in the sand and say everything is fine? Sure. But that’s not realistic, is it?

Re: This organization deserves failure

Posted: 21 Mar 2025 09:48 am
by Cranny
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:34 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 08:35 am
desertrat23 wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:16 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:10 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 20 Mar 2025 19:39 pm Looks like front office has signed up a couple more cards talk sycophants to defend them

It’s really pathetic people are misguided in their thought process

Blind sheep do exist
Not a sycophant. Just a consistent Cardinal fan through both highs and lows.
Everyone here is. Don’t be self-righteous.
Really? Even the constant bashers?
Absolutely. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. People aren’t “bashing” ownership and management, they’re rightly frustrated about the decline of a once-proud franchise that they love. Could we stick our heads in the sand and say everything is fine? Sure. But that’s not realistic, is it?
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Some fans enjoy watching every game during the regular season. Cheering for a win. Others only get enjoyment out of a WS win. The latter are going to be disappointed 90+% of the time. And constantly frustrated. Which are you, rat?

Re: This organization deserves failure

Posted: 21 Mar 2025 09:59 am
by OldRed
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:48 am
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:34 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 08:35 am
desertrat23 wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:16 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:10 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 20 Mar 2025 19:39 pm Looks like front office has signed up a couple more cards talk sycophants to defend them

It’s really pathetic people are misguided in their thought process

Blind sheep do exist
Not a sycophant. Just a consistent Cardinal fan through both highs and lows.
Everyone here is. Don’t be self-righteous.
Really? Even the constant bashers?
Absolutely. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. People aren’t “bashing” ownership and management, they’re rightly frustrated about the decline of a once-proud franchise that they love. Could we stick our heads in the sand and say everything is fine? Sure. But that’s not realistic, is it?
[/

Some fans enjoy watching every game during the regular season. Cheering for a win. Others only get enjoyment out of a WS win. The latter are going to be disappointed 90+% of the time. And constantly frustrated. Which are you, rat?
I enjoy watching good baseball, not what we have seen the last couple of years. I'm glad you are a cheerleader.

Re: This organization deserves failure

Posted: 21 Mar 2025 10:19 am
by Cranny
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:59 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:48 am
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:34 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 08:35 am
desertrat23 wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:16 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:10 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 20 Mar 2025 19:39 pm Looks like front office has signed up a couple more cards talk sycophants to defend them

It’s really pathetic people are misguided in their thought process

Blind sheep do exist
Not a sycophant. Just a consistent Cardinal fan through both highs and lows.
Everyone here is. Don’t be self-righteous.
Really? Even the constant bashers?
Absolutely. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. People aren’t “bashing” ownership and management, they’re rightly frustrated about the decline of a once-proud franchise that they love. Could we stick our heads in the sand and say everything is fine? Sure. But that’s not realistic, is it?
[/

Some fans enjoy watching every game during the regular season. Cheering for a win. Others only get enjoyment out of a WS win. The latter are going to be disappointed 90+% of the time. And constantly frustrated. Which are you, rat?
I enjoy watching good baseball, not what we have seen the last couple of years. I'm glad you are a cheerleader.
Didn’t we have more wins than losses last season?
Isn’t that actually pretty good baseball?

Re: This organization deserves failure

Posted: 21 Mar 2025 10:33 am
by desertrat23
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:19 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:59 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:48 am
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:34 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 08:35 am
desertrat23 wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:16 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:10 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 20 Mar 2025 19:39 pm Looks like front office has signed up a couple more cards talk sycophants to defend them

It’s really pathetic people are misguided in their thought process

Blind sheep do exist
Not a sycophant. Just a consistent Cardinal fan through both highs and lows.
Everyone here is. Don’t be self-righteous.
Really? Even the constant bashers?
Absolutely. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. People aren’t “bashing” ownership and management, they’re rightly frustrated about the decline of a once-proud franchise that they love. Could we stick our heads in the sand and say everything is fine? Sure. But that’s not realistic, is it?
[/

Some fans enjoy watching every game during the regular season. Cheering for a win. Others only get enjoyment out of a WS win. The latter are going to be disappointed 90+% of the time. And constantly frustrated. Which are you, rat?
I enjoy watching good baseball, not what we have seen the last couple of years. I'm glad you are a cheerleader.
Didn’t we have more wins than losses last season?
Isn’t that actually pretty good baseball?
I enjoy the regular season, but I’m not satisfied with “more wins than losses.” Most people aren’t. That should be the barest minimum of standards for this franchise.

Re: This organization deserves failure

Posted: 21 Mar 2025 10:35 am
by Futuregm2
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:19 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:59 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:48 am
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:34 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 08:35 am
desertrat23 wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:16 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:10 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 20 Mar 2025 19:39 pm Looks like front office has signed up a couple more cards talk sycophants to defend them

It’s really pathetic people are misguided in their thought process

Blind sheep do exist
Not a sycophant. Just a consistent Cardinal fan through both highs and lows.
Everyone here is. Don’t be self-righteous.
Really? Even the constant bashers?
Absolutely. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. People aren’t “bashing” ownership and management, they’re rightly frustrated about the decline of a once-proud franchise that they love. Could we stick our heads in the sand and say everything is fine? Sure. But that’s not realistic, is it?
Some fans enjoy watching every game during the regular season. Cheering for a win. Others only get enjoyment out of a WS win. The latter are going to be disappointed 90+% of the time. And constantly frustrated. Which are you, rat?
I enjoy watching good baseball, not what we have seen the last couple of years. I'm glad you are a cheerleader.
Didn’t we have more wins than losses last season?
Isn’t that actually pretty good baseball?
Well they had a terrible offense that stunk with RISP. And had an average pitching staff. I’m not sure that’s “good” baseball. I’d say that’s pretty mediocre baseball at best.

Re: This organization deserves failure

Posted: 21 Mar 2025 10:53 am
by Cranny
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:35 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:19 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:59 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:48 am
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:34 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 08:35 am
desertrat23 wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:16 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:10 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 20 Mar 2025 19:39 pm Looks like front office has signed up a couple more cards talk sycophants to defend them

It’s really pathetic people are misguided in their thought process

Blind sheep do exist
Not a sycophant. Just a consistent Cardinal fan through both highs and lows.
Everyone here is. Don’t be self-righteous.
Really? Even the constant bashers?
Absolutely. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. People aren’t “bashing” ownership and management, they’re rightly frustrated about the decline of a once-proud franchise that they love. Could we stick our heads in the sand and say everything is fine? Sure. But that’s not realistic, is it?
Some fans enjoy watching every game during the regular season. Cheering for a win. Others only get enjoyment out of a WS win. The latter are going to be disappointed 90+% of the time. And constantly frustrated. Which are you, rat?
I enjoy watching good baseball, not what we have seen the last couple of years. I'm glad you are a cheerleader.
Didn’t we have more wins than losses last season?
Isn’t that actually pretty good baseball?
Well they had a terrible offense that stunk with RISP. And had an average pitching staff. I’m not sure that’s “good” baseball. I’d say that’s pretty mediocre baseball at best.
Amazing they still had a winning season with all of that, isn’t it futuregm? Maybe if they improve the BA with RISP we’ll have a division winner in 2025.

Re: This organization deserves failure

Posted: 21 Mar 2025 10:57 am
by Futuregm2
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:53 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:35 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:19 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:59 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:48 am
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:34 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 08:35 am
desertrat23 wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:16 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:10 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 20 Mar 2025 19:39 pm Looks like front office has signed up a couple more cards talk sycophants to defend them

It’s really pathetic people are misguided in their thought process

Blind sheep do exist
Not a sycophant. Just a consistent Cardinal fan through both highs and lows.
Everyone here is. Don’t be self-righteous.
Really? Even the constant bashers?
Absolutely. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. People aren’t “bashing” ownership and management, they’re rightly frustrated about the decline of a once-proud franchise that they love. Could we stick our heads in the sand and say everything is fine? Sure. But that’s not realistic, is it?
Some fans enjoy watching every game during the regular season. Cheering for a win. Others only get enjoyment out of a WS win. The latter are going to be disappointed 90+% of the time. And constantly frustrated. Which are you, rat?
I enjoy watching good baseball, not what we have seen the last couple of years. I'm glad you are a cheerleader.
Didn’t we have more wins than losses last season?
Isn’t that actually pretty good baseball?
Well they had a terrible offense that stunk with RISP. And had an average pitching staff. I’m not sure that’s “good” baseball. I’d say that’s pretty mediocre baseball at best.
Amazing they still had a winning season with all of that, isn’t it futuregm? Maybe if they improve the BA with RISP we’ll have a division winner in 2025.
Sure, I guess. But we finished double digit games back in the division for the 2nd straight season, which was the first time for us since the 90s. The best thing about last year was that it somehow landed us a #5 pick.

Re: This organization deserves failure

Posted: 21 Mar 2025 10:59 am
by OldRed
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:57 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:53 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:35 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:19 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:59 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:48 am
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:34 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 08:35 am
desertrat23 wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:16 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:10 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 20 Mar 2025 19:39 pm Looks like front office has signed up a couple more cards talk sycophants to defend them

It’s really pathetic people are misguided in their thought process

Blind sheep do exist
Not a sycophant. Just a consistent Cardinal fan through both highs and lows.
Everyone here is. Don’t be self-righteous.
Really? Even the constant bashers?
Absolutely. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. People aren’t “bashing” ownership and management, they’re rightly frustrated about the decline of a once-proud franchise that they love. Could we stick our heads in the sand and say everything is fine? Sure. But that’s not realistic, is it?
Some fans enjoy watching every game during the regular season. Cheering for a win. Others only get enjoyment out of a WS win. The latter are going to be disappointed 90+% of the time. And constantly frustrated. Which are you, rat?
I enjoy watching good baseball, not what we have seen the last couple of years. I'm glad you are a cheerleader.
Didn’t we have more wins than losses last season?
Isn’t that actually pretty good baseball?
Well they had a terrible offense that stunk with RISP. And had an average pitching staff. I’m not sure that’s “good” baseball. I’d say that’s pretty mediocre baseball at best.
Amazing they still had a winning season with all of that, isn’t it futuregm? Maybe if they improve the BA with RISP we’ll have a division winner in 2025.
Sure, I guess. But we finished double digit games back in the division for the 2nd straight season, which was the first time for us since the 90s. The best thing about last year was that it somehow landed us a #5 pick.
Got that right that 10 games out of first was a great season . . . . LOL!

Re: This organization deserves failure

Posted: 21 Mar 2025 11:08 am
by Cranny
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:59 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:57 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:53 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:35 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:19 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:59 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:48 am
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:34 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 08:35 am
desertrat23 wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:16 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:10 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 20 Mar 2025 19:39 pm Looks like front office has signed up a couple more cards talk sycophants to defend them

It’s really pathetic people are misguided in their thought process

Blind sheep do exist
Not a sycophant. Just a consistent Cardinal fan through both highs and lows.
Everyone here is. Don’t be self-righteous.
Really? Even the constant bashers?
Absolutely. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. People aren’t “bashing” ownership and management, they’re rightly frustrated about the decline of a once-proud franchise that they love. Could we stick our heads in the sand and say everything is fine? Sure. But that’s not realistic, is it?
Some fans enjoy watching every game during the regular season. Cheering for a win. Others only get enjoyment out of a WS win. The latter are going to be disappointed 90+% of the time. And constantly frustrated. Which are you, rat?
I enjoy watching good baseball, not what we have seen the last couple of years. I'm glad you are a cheerleader.
Didn’t we have more wins than losses last season?
Isn’t that actually pretty good baseball?
Well they had a terrible offense that stunk with RISP. And had an average pitching staff. I’m not sure that’s “good” baseball. I’d say that’s pretty mediocre baseball at best.
Amazing they still had a winning season with all of that, isn’t it futuregm? Maybe if they improve the BA with RISP we’ll have a division winner in 2025.
Sure, I guess. But we finished double digit games back in the division for the 2nd straight season, which was the first time for us since the 90s. The best thing about last year was that it somehow landed us a #5 pick.
Got that right that 10 games out of first was a great season . . . . LOL!
Have you enjoyed World Championships in the 60s, 80s, 2006, and 2011? More than most major league fans across the country, Red?

Re: This organization deserves failure

Posted: 21 Mar 2025 11:24 am
by OldRed
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 11:08 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:59 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:57 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:53 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:35 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:19 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:59 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:48 am
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:34 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 08:35 am
desertrat23 wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:16 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:10 pm

Not a sycophant. Just a consistent Cardinal fan through both highs and lows.
Everyone here is. Don’t be self-righteous.
Really? Even the constant bashers?
Absolutely. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. People aren’t “bashing” ownership and management, they’re rightly frustrated about the decline of a once-proud franchise that they love. Could we stick our heads in the sand and say everything is fine? Sure. But that’s not realistic, is it?
Some fans enjoy watching every game during the regular season. Cheering for a win. Others only get enjoyment out of a WS win. The latter are going to be disappointed 90+% of the time. And constantly frustrated. Which are you, rat?
I enjoy watching good baseball, not what we have seen the last couple of years. I'm glad you are a cheerleader.
Didn’t we have more wins than losses last season?
Isn’t that actually pretty good baseball?
Well they had a terrible offense that stunk with RISP. And had an average pitching staff. I’m not sure that’s “good” baseball. I’d say that’s pretty mediocre baseball at best.
Amazing they still had a winning season with all of that, isn’t it futuregm? Maybe if they improve the BA with RISP we’ll have a division winner in 2025.
Sure, I guess. But we finished double digit games back in the division for the 2nd straight season, which was the first time for us since the 90s. The best thing about last year was that it somehow landed us a #5 pick.
Got that right that 10 games out of first was a great season . . . . LOL!
Have you enjoyed World Championships in the 60s, 80s, 2006, and 2011? More than most major league fans across the country, Red?
What kind of question is that? I enjoy well played baseball. Not what we have been watching the last couple of years. Last year they had two pitchers and two bench players who have not been picked up by another team. That team was not put together well and anyone with 1/2 a brain could see it. But people in the front office brain wash people like YOU.

Re: This organization deserves failure

Posted: 21 Mar 2025 11:51 am
by desertrat23
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 11:08 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:59 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:57 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:53 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:35 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:19 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:59 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:48 am
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:34 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 08:35 am
desertrat23 wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:16 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:10 pm

Not a sycophant. Just a consistent Cardinal fan through both highs and lows.
Everyone here is. Don’t be self-righteous.
Really? Even the constant bashers?
Absolutely. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. People aren’t “bashing” ownership and management, they’re rightly frustrated about the decline of a once-proud franchise that they love. Could we stick our heads in the sand and say everything is fine? Sure. But that’s not realistic, is it?
Some fans enjoy watching every game during the regular season. Cheering for a win. Others only get enjoyment out of a WS win. The latter are going to be disappointed 90+% of the time. And constantly frustrated. Which are you, rat?
I enjoy watching good baseball, not what we have seen the last couple of years. I'm glad you are a cheerleader.
Didn’t we have more wins than losses last season?
Isn’t that actually pretty good baseball?
Well they had a terrible offense that stunk with RISP. And had an average pitching staff. I’m not sure that’s “good” baseball. I’d say that’s pretty mediocre baseball at best.
Amazing they still had a winning season with all of that, isn’t it futuregm? Maybe if they improve the BA with RISP we’ll have a division winner in 2025.
Sure, I guess. But we finished double digit games back in the division for the 2nd straight season, which was the first time for us since the 90s. The best thing about last year was that it somehow landed us a #5 pick.
Got that right that 10 games out of first was a great season . . . . LOL!
Have you enjoyed World Championships in the 60s, 80s, 2006, and 2011? More than most major league fans across the country, Red?
That’s what I’ll tell my kids. “Kids, they won championships when I was your age, and when your grandpa was your age. It was really cool. They’re not really trying to do that anymore, but hey, they won more games than they lost last year and only finished 10 out in a lousy division. Now eat your nachos, they cost $26.”

Re: This organization deserves failure

Posted: 21 Mar 2025 11:56 am
by Cranny
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 11:51 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 11:08 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:59 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:57 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:53 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:35 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:19 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:59 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:48 am
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:34 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 08:35 am
desertrat23 wrote: 20 Mar 2025 22:16 pm

Everyone here is. Don’t be self-righteous.
Really? Even the constant bashers?
Absolutely. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. People aren’t “bashing” ownership and management, they’re rightly frustrated about the decline of a once-proud franchise that they love. Could we stick our heads in the sand and say everything is fine? Sure. But that’s not realistic, is it?
Some fans enjoy watching every game during the regular season. Cheering for a win. Others only get enjoyment out of a WS win. The latter are going to be disappointed 90+% of the time. And constantly frustrated. Which are you, rat?
I enjoy watching good baseball, not what we have seen the last couple of years. I'm glad you are a cheerleader.
Didn’t we have more wins than losses last season?
Isn’t that actually pretty good baseball?
Well they had a terrible offense that stunk with RISP. And had an average pitching staff. I’m not sure that’s “good” baseball. I’d say that’s pretty mediocre baseball at best.
Amazing they still had a winning season with all of that, isn’t it futuregm? Maybe if they improve the BA with RISP we’ll have a division winner in 2025.
Sure, I guess. But we finished double digit games back in the division for the 2nd straight season, which was the first time for us since the 90s. The best thing about last year was that it somehow landed us a #5 pick.
Got that right that 10 games out of first was a great season . . . . LOL!
Have you enjoyed World Championships in the 60s, 80s, 2006, and 2011? More than most major league fans across the country, Red?
That’s what I’ll tell my kids. “Kids, they won championships when I was your age, and when your grandpa was your age. It was really cool. They’re not really trying to do that anymore, but hey, they won more games than they lost last year and only finished 10 out in a lousy division. Now eat your nachos, they cost $26.”
Rat, it sounds to me like you should take a little time off from being a Cardinal fan. Maybe come back when they’re playing up to your standards?
Sound like a plan? Who wants to have constant frustration?

Re: This organization deserves failure

Posted: 21 Mar 2025 12:07 pm
by Futuregm2
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 11:56 am
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 11:51 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 11:08 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:59 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:57 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:53 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:35 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:19 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:59 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:48 am
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:34 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 08:35 am

Really? Even the constant bashers?
Absolutely. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. People aren’t “bashing” ownership and management, they’re rightly frustrated about the decline of a once-proud franchise that they love. Could we stick our heads in the sand and say everything is fine? Sure. But that’s not realistic, is it?
Some fans enjoy watching every game during the regular season. Cheering for a win. Others only get enjoyment out of a WS win. The latter are going to be disappointed 90+% of the time. And constantly frustrated. Which are you, rat?
I enjoy watching good baseball, not what we have seen the last couple of years. I'm glad you are a cheerleader.
Didn’t we have more wins than losses last season?
Isn’t that actually pretty good baseball?
Well they had a terrible offense that stunk with RISP. And had an average pitching staff. I’m not sure that’s “good” baseball. I’d say that’s pretty mediocre baseball at best.
Amazing they still had a winning season with all of that, isn’t it futuregm? Maybe if they improve the BA with RISP we’ll have a division winner in 2025.
Sure, I guess. But we finished double digit games back in the division for the 2nd straight season, which was the first time for us since the 90s. The best thing about last year was that it somehow landed us a #5 pick.
Got that right that 10 games out of first was a great season . . . . LOL!
Have you enjoyed World Championships in the 60s, 80s, 2006, and 2011? More than most major league fans across the country, Red?
That’s what I’ll tell my kids. “Kids, they won championships when I was your age, and when your grandpa was your age. It was really cool. They’re not really trying to do that anymore, but hey, they won more games than they lost last year and only finished 10 out in a lousy division. Now eat your nachos, they cost $26.”
Rat, it sounds to me like you should take a little time off from being a Cardinal fan. Maybe come back when they’re playing up to your standards?
Sound like a plan? Who wants to have constant frustration?
Why don’t you not tell people what a fan should do? A fan doesn’t have to be a cheerleader. You can be a fan of the team and criticize them when they are deserving at the same time.

Re: This organization deserves failure

Posted: 21 Mar 2025 12:23 pm
by Cranny
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 12:07 pm
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 11:56 am
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 11:51 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 11:08 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:59 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:57 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:53 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:35 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:19 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:59 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:48 am
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:34 am

Absolutely. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. People aren’t “bashing” ownership and management, they’re rightly frustrated about the decline of a once-proud franchise that they love. Could we stick our heads in the sand and say everything is fine? Sure. But that’s not realistic, is it?
Some fans enjoy watching every game during the regular season. Cheering for a win. Others only get enjoyment out of a WS win. The latter are going to be disappointed 90+% of the time. And constantly frustrated. Which are you, rat?
I enjoy watching good baseball, not what we have seen the last couple of years. I'm glad you are a cheerleader.
Didn’t we have more wins than losses last season?
Isn’t that actually pretty good baseball?
Well they had a terrible offense that stunk with RISP. And had an average pitching staff. I’m not sure that’s “good” baseball. I’d say that’s pretty mediocre baseball at best.
Amazing they still had a winning season with all of that, isn’t it futuregm? Maybe if they improve the BA with RISP we’ll have a division winner in 2025.
Sure, I guess. But we finished double digit games back in the division for the 2nd straight season, which was the first time for us since the 90s. The best thing about last year was that it somehow landed us a #5 pick.
Got that right that 10 games out of first was a great season . . . . LOL!
Have you enjoyed World Championships in the 60s, 80s, 2006, and 2011? More than most major league fans across the country, Red?
That’s what I’ll tell my kids. “Kids, they won championships when I was your age, and when your grandpa was your age. It was really cool. They’re not really trying to do that anymore, but hey, they won more games than they lost last year and only finished 10 out in a lousy division. Now eat your nachos, they cost $26.”
Rat, it sounds to me like you should take a little time off from being a Cardinal fan. Maybe come back when they’re playing up to your standards?
Sound like a plan? Who wants to have constant frustration?
Why don’t you not tell people what a fan should do? A fan doesn’t have to be a cheerleader. You can be a fan of the team and criticize them when they are deserving at the same time.
I criticize the Cardinals when they play poor baseball, just like everyone else. I’m just not obsessed with doing it constantly like some.

Re: This organization deserves failure

Posted: 21 Mar 2025 12:31 pm
by desertrat23
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 11:56 am
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 11:51 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 11:08 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:59 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:57 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:53 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:35 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 10:19 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:59 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:48 am
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 09:34 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 08:35 am

Really? Even the constant bashers?
Absolutely. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. People aren’t “bashing” ownership and management, they’re rightly frustrated about the decline of a once-proud franchise that they love. Could we stick our heads in the sand and say everything is fine? Sure. But that’s not realistic, is it?
Some fans enjoy watching every game during the regular season. Cheering for a win. Others only get enjoyment out of a WS win. The latter are going to be disappointed 90+% of the time. And constantly frustrated. Which are you, rat?
I enjoy watching good baseball, not what we have seen the last couple of years. I'm glad you are a cheerleader.
Didn’t we have more wins than losses last season?
Isn’t that actually pretty good baseball?
Well they had a terrible offense that stunk with RISP. And had an average pitching staff. I’m not sure that’s “good” baseball. I’d say that’s pretty mediocre baseball at best.
Amazing they still had a winning season with all of that, isn’t it futuregm? Maybe if they improve the BA with RISP we’ll have a division winner in 2025.
Sure, I guess. But we finished double digit games back in the division for the 2nd straight season, which was the first time for us since the 90s. The best thing about last year was that it somehow landed us a #5 pick.
Got that right that 10 games out of first was a great season . . . . LOL!
Have you enjoyed World Championships in the 60s, 80s, 2006, and 2011? More than most major league fans across the country, Red?
That’s what I’ll tell my kids. “Kids, they won championships when I was your age, and when your grandpa was your age. It was really cool. They’re not really trying to do that anymore, but hey, they won more games than they lost last year and only finished 10 out in a lousy division. Now eat your nachos, they cost $26.”
Rat, it sounds to me like you should take a little time off from being a Cardinal fan. Maybe come back when they’re playing up to your standards?
Sound like a plan? Who wants to have constant frustration?
Because that’s not the way it works. The Cardinals are one of my life’s great passions. Think of it the way you would think of a member of your family. You may be disappointed in them at times for their poor choices, disappointed at times when they underachieve because you know they can do better, but you always love them and want them to excel because you know they can, not turning a blind eye to their faults.