This organization deserves failure

[Vacardfan1964]

Ownership and management somehow killed the Golden Goose

Somebody moved the cheese on BDW and he is lost.

And stubborn.

He and Mo were complicit in HackGate

They deserve their misery

I was in agreement until hackgate. Everyone forgets one big piece of it which kills the idea they were doing it as an organization.

So...what would that be

[Vacardfan1964]

The players have to want to come to your team. How many middle America teams are attracting these guys? If you're not near one of the oceans, players don't want to be there. The Cardinals are in the same non-attractive boat that about 26 other teams arer in. How do you fix it? The only way you even have a chance at them is by extreme over spending, and that might not even work.

I call b.s.

The Cardinals organization used to be a great place to play. Is now a toxic place.

[Cranny]

The players have to want to come to your team. How many middle America teams are attracting these guys? If you're not near one of the oceans, players don't want to be there. The Cardinals are in the same non-attractive boat that about 26 other teams arer in. How do you fix it? The only way you even have a chance at them is by extreme over spending, and that might not even work.

I call b.s.

The Cardinals organization used to be a great place to play. Is now a toxic place.

So toxic that veterans didn't want to waive their no trade clause?

[thetank2]

The players have to want to come to your team. How many middle America teams are attracting these guys? If you're not near one of the oceans, players don't want to be there. The Cardinals are in the same non-attractive boat that about 26 other teams arer in. How do you fix it? The only way you even have a chance at them is by extreme over spending, and that might not even work.

I call b.s.

The Cardinals organization used to be a great place to play. Is now a toxic place.

So toxic that veterans didn't want to waive their no trade clause?

+1

[Stlcardsblues]

Ownership and management somehow killed the Golden Goose

Somebody moved the cheese on BDW and he is lost.

And stubborn.

He and Mo were complicit in HackGate

They deserve their misery

I was in agreement until hackgate. Everyone forgets one big piece of it which kills the idea they were doing it as an organization.

So...what would that be

Answered this on page two of this post.

[Vacardfan1964]

The players have to want to come to your team. How many middle America teams are attracting these guys? If you're not near one of the oceans, players don't want to be there. The Cardinals are in the same non-attractive boat that about 26 other teams arer in. How do you fix it? The only way you even have a chance at them is by extreme over spending, and that might not even work.

I call b.s.

The Cardinals organization used to be a great place to play. Is now a toxic place.

So toxic that veterans didn't want to waive their no trade clause?

I wonder how many would if they knew Mo and Marmol were going to be back next year.

Just because because two players haven't waived their NTC, doesn't mean it's not a toxic place. But hey, nice try.

[Cranny]

The players have to want to come to your team. How many middle America teams are attracting these guys? If you're not near one of the oceans, players don't want to be there. The Cardinals are in the same non-attractive boat that about 26 other teams arer in. How do you fix it? The only way you even have a chance at them is by extreme over spending, and that might not even work.

I call b.s.

The Cardinals organization used to be a great place to play. Is now a toxic place.

So toxic that veterans didn't want to waive their no trade clause?

I wonder how many would if they knew Mo and Marmol were going to be back next year.

Just because because two players haven't waived their NTC, doesn't mean it's not a toxic place. But hey, nice try.

Apparently veterans have said they like it here and are looking forward to helping the younger players.
That sure doesn’t sound “toxic”.

[Cusecards]

SMH

[Baseball Savant]

Looks like front office has signed up a couple more cards talk sycophants to defend them

It’s really pathetic people are misguided in their thought process

Blind sheep do exist

[WLTFE]

Looks like front office has signed up a couple more cards talk sycophants to defend them

It’s really pathetic people are misguided in their thought process

Blind sheep do exist

+1...a few front office (donkey) kissers still post here...and they, apparently, read every thread to protect DeTwit and Mo-ran!

[Cranny]

Looks like front office has signed up a couple more cards talk sycophants to defend them

It’s really pathetic people are misguided in their thought process

Blind sheep do exist

Not a sycophant. Just a consistent Cardinal fan through both highs and lows.

[desertrat23]

Looks like front office has signed up a couple more cards talk sycophants to defend them

It’s really pathetic people are misguided in their thought process

Blind sheep do exist

Not a sycophant. Just a consistent Cardinal fan through both highs and lows.

Everyone here is. Don’t be self-righteous.

[Cranny]

Looks like front office has signed up a couple more cards talk sycophants to defend them

It’s really pathetic people are misguided in their thought process

Blind sheep do exist

Not a sycophant. Just a consistent Cardinal fan through both highs and lows.

Everyone here is. Don’t be self-righteous.

Really? Even the constant bashers?

[OldRed]

Looks like front office has signed up a couple more cards talk sycophants to defend them

It’s really pathetic people are misguided in their thought process

Blind sheep do exist

Not a sycophant. Just a consistent Cardinal fan through both highs and lows.

There is a HUGE difference between being a fan and being realistic.

[Cranny]

Looks like front office has signed up a couple more cards talk sycophants to defend them

It’s really pathetic people are misguided in their thought process

Blind sheep do exist

Not a sycophant. Just a consistent Cardinal fan through both highs and lows.

There is a HUGE difference between being a fan and being realistic.

I’m a realistic fan. Knowing that much of future success lies with our prospects, I’ll continue to follow them at all levels.

[Bomber1]

Ownership and management somehow killed the Golden Goose

Somebody moved the cheese on BDW and he is lost.

And stubborn.

He and Mo were complicit in HackGate

They deserve their misery

I was in agreement until hackgate. Everyone forgets one big piece of it which kills the idea they were doing it as an organization.

What’s the one big piece?

The story broke as the information which was taken was given to Deadspin who published Luhnow’s notes. Why would the team steal the information then hand over all of Luhnows notes so that Deadspin could publish Luhnow’s notes?

I’m sorry but I don’t understand why handing over notes by Luhnow means Mozeliak and DeWitt didn’t know about the hacking?