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zuck698 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:56 pm

Midrange Jay wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:45 pm

zuck698 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:43 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:39 pm

Midrange Jay wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:36 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 15:49 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 15:43 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 15:41 pm I'm a big fan of finally signing guys that can be dealt at the deadline if they turn in a strong 1st half. If he stinks, it's just a 1 year deal, so nothing lost.

+1 definitely beats signing a guy like mikolas who has limited upside

Agreed. In the past, guys like Lynn and Gibson would have never gotten us much at the deadline. I'd much rather sign guys like May, especially for the upcoming season or 2, who could pay off huge at the deadline. Never understood why Mo didn't do this.

How is May any better than Lynn or Gibson?

“ After scuffling through 19 appearances with L.A., he battled injuries and poor performance with the Red Sox. May set career highs in innings (132 1/3) and games (25) last season, but posted an unsightly 4.96 ERA with an xFIP and SIERA in the mid-4.00s.”

He's 28 and has upside. How old were Gibson and Lynn when we signed them? Both had limited to no upside.

Also, last year was the first year back after the flexor tendon surgery, even though it was done in 23, he had the esophagus tear in 24. So one would expect his numbers to not be the greatest in his first year back pitching.

He had never pitched more than 56 innings before last season.

Your point? Liberatore had a high of 86 until last year. May was severely injured for many of his years in the MLB, so of course his innings would be low. May pitched 132 innings last year while Liberatore pitched 150 innings last year. No reason that May cannot build on his 132 if his health allows.

Midrange Jay wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 17:00 pm

zuck698 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:56 pm

Midrange Jay wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:45 pm

zuck698 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:43 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:39 pm

Midrange Jay wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:36 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 15:49 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 15:43 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 15:41 pm I'm a big fan of finally signing guys that can be dealt at the deadline if they turn in a strong 1st half. If he stinks, it's just a 1 year deal, so nothing lost.

+1 definitely beats signing a guy like mikolas who has limited upside

Agreed. In the past, guys like Lynn and Gibson would have never gotten us much at the deadline. I'd much rather sign guys like May, especially for the upcoming season or 2, who could pay off huge at the deadline. Never understood why Mo didn't do this.

How is May any better than Lynn or Gibson?

“ After scuffling through 19 appearances with L.A., he battled injuries and poor performance with the Red Sox. May set career highs in innings (132 1/3) and games (25) last season, but posted an unsightly 4.96 ERA with an xFIP and SIERA in the mid-4.00s.”

He's 28 and has upside. How old were Gibson and Lynn when we signed them? Both had limited to no upside.

Also, last year was the first year back after the flexor tendon surgery, even though it was done in 23, he had the esophagus tear in 24. So one would expect his numbers to not be the greatest in his first year back pitching.

He had never pitched more than 56 innings before last season.

Your point? Liberatore had a high of 86 until last year. May was severely injured for many of his years in the MLB, so of course his innings would be low. May pitched 132 innings last year while Liberatore pitched 150 innings last year. No reason that May cannot build on his 132 if his health allows.

May has also been in the majors for 3 more seasons than Liberatore. I don’t mind counting on May as a reliever, but he is a crapshoot at SP.

RichieRichSTL wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 15:35 pm They have to have a remotely competitive team. People know it wont be winning baseball, but nobody wants to pay to see a White Sox, Colorado level disaster, either.

Midrange Jay wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 17:00 pm

zuck698 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:56 pm

Midrange Jay wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:45 pm

zuck698 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:43 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:39 pm

Midrange Jay wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:36 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 15:49 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 15:43 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 15:41 pm I'm a big fan of finally signing guys that can be dealt at the deadline if they turn in a strong 1st half. If he stinks, it's just a 1 year deal, so nothing lost.

+1 definitely beats signing a guy like mikolas who has limited upside

Agreed. In the past, guys like Lynn and Gibson would have never gotten us much at the deadline. I'd much rather sign guys like May, especially for the upcoming season or 2, who could pay off huge at the deadline. Never understood why Mo didn't do this.

How is May any better than Lynn or Gibson?

“ After scuffling through 19 appearances with L.A., he battled injuries and poor performance with the Red Sox. May set career highs in innings (132 1/3) and games (25) last season, but posted an unsightly 4.96 ERA with an xFIP and SIERA in the mid-4.00s.”

He's 28 and has upside. How old were Gibson and Lynn when we signed them? Both had limited to no upside.

Also, last year was the first year back after the flexor tendon surgery, even though it was done in 23, he had the esophagus tear in 24. So one would expect his numbers to not be the greatest in his first year back pitching.

He had never pitched more than 56 innings before last season.

Your point? Liberatore had a high of 86 until last year. May was severely injured for many of his years in the MLB, so of course his innings would be low. May pitched 132 innings last year while Liberatore pitched 150 innings last year. No reason that May cannot build on his 132 if his health allows.

May has also been in the majors for 3 more seasons than Liberatore. I don’t mind counting on May as a reliever, but he is a crapshoot at SP.

Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:28 pm

Web7 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:14 pm I wanted him at last years trade deadline….0f course the usual simpleton’s on here ridiculed me for it

Because it was a dumb idea. You also wanted to sign him to an extension, which is even dumber.

This, however, is a good signing.

Melville wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 17:04 pm

Midrange Jay wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 17:00 pm

zuck698 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:56 pm

Midrange Jay wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:45 pm

zuck698 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:43 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:39 pm

Midrange Jay wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:36 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 15:49 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 15:43 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 15:41 pm I'm a big fan of finally signing guys that can be dealt at the deadline if they turn in a strong 1st half. If he stinks, it's just a 1 year deal, so nothing lost.

+1 definitely beats signing a guy like mikolas who has limited upside

Agreed. In the past, guys like Lynn and Gibson would have never gotten us much at the deadline. I'd much rather sign guys like May, especially for the upcoming season or 2, who could pay off huge at the deadline. Never understood why Mo didn't do this.

How is May any better than Lynn or Gibson?

“ After scuffling through 19 appearances with L.A., he battled injuries and poor performance with the Red Sox. May set career highs in innings (132 1/3) and games (25) last season, but posted an unsightly 4.96 ERA with an xFIP and SIERA in the mid-4.00s.”

He's 28 and has upside. How old were Gibson and Lynn when we signed them? Both had limited to no upside.

Also, last year was the first year back after the flexor tendon surgery, even though it was done in 23, he had the esophagus tear in 24. So one would expect his numbers to not be the greatest in his first year back pitching.

He had never pitched more than 56 innings before last season.

Your point? Liberatore had a high of 86 until last year. May was severely injured for many of his years in the MLB, so of course his innings would be low. May pitched 132 innings last year while Liberatore pitched 150 innings last year. No reason that May cannot build on his 132 if his health allows.

May has also been in the majors for 3 more seasons than Liberatore. I don’t mind counting on May as a reliever, but he is a crapshoot at SP.

Better to bet on him than Pallante.
May does not need to be a top of the rotation arm.
Just better than Pallante - which is a ridiculously low bar.

Melville wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:01 pm Dustin May is one of the arms a few of us here have previously stated that Bloom should sign.
Appears Bloom is doing precisely as I advised: add short erm talent to give the team a chance to compete for a W/C in 2026 while adding quality high ceiling prospect talent for the long haul.
Bloom has done that on the pitching side of the equation.
Now time for him to do as I advise on the position player side of the roster.

zuck698 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 17:12 pm https://www.ocregister.com/2024/07/13/d ... h-in-2024/

Well I know one guy who is happy about the signing, and that is Bill DeWitt III. I imagine his head is about to explode thinking of all the Raggedy Ann Night at the ballpark give aways.

Web7 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 17:07 pm

Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:28 pm

Web7 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:14 pm I wanted him at last years trade deadline….0f course the usual simpleton’s on here ridiculed me for it

Because it was a dumb idea. You also wanted to sign him to an extension, which is even dumber.

This, however, is a good signing.

You conveniently left out the part where if he pitched well at the end of last year, you could sign into an extension….thats what we expect from you …

Melville wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 16:01 pm Dustin May is one of the arms a few of us here have previously stated that Bloom should sign.
Appears Bloom is doing precisely as I advised: add short erm talent to give the team a chance to compete for a W/C in 2026 while adding quality high ceiling prospect talent for the long haul.
Bloom has done that on the pitching side of the equation.
Now time for him to do as I advise on the position player side of the roster.