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Posted: **26 Oct 2025 18:35 pm**

Shady wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 17:59 pm
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 17:54 pm
Shady wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 16:46 pm If the Cardinals are going to be really competitive. They need a slugger like Harper in the middle of the batting order. I look for possible solutions. Some others here just look to criticize. Real cool. Maybe they need to try to offer some bold solutions.
No way. That dude is not going to earn his huge salary the next few. Really bad proposal Shady. Never even considered by anyone with an ounce of baseball acumen.
So you, having an abundance of "baseball acumen", please tell us your suggestion for making the Cardinals a true contender next season. I'm looking forward to you sharing your brilliance. Let's see it.

Are you retarded?

Posted: **26 Oct 2025 18:38 pm**

Shady wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 18:28 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 18:25 pm
Shady wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 16:23 pm Harper is a proven slugger. However, probably too expensive for the Cardinals.
You would have been better off pitching a trade of Wetherholt and Liberatore for Skenes. Pittsburgh has already wasted two years of Skenes and Wetherholt gives them an everyday player who is promotable right now with 6 years of control and a decent mid-to backend starter with 3 more years of control.

I know this example is far-fetched but those are the only types of moves a team in our position should consider if moving such a high-end prospect. Star level youth at a position of great need.
That's an intriguing trade proposal. Much better than the Wetherholt for Harper that I threw out there. Though, the Cardinals could include some salary relief in a Wetherholt for Harper deal to make it more palatable. Harper is a really, really good, proven MLB slugger in case anybody hasn't noticed..

Giving the Phillies salary relief would make it even worse. Harper is a stud, but he’s too old for that deal. Phillies would be fleecing us, unless it turned out that Wetherholt was a complete bust and Harper managed to stay very healthy for years to come, but that’s two unlikely bets to make that we can’t afford to lose.

Posted: **26 Oct 2025 18:41 pm**

ecleme22 wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 18:35 pm
Shady wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 17:59 pm
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 17:54 pm
Shady wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 16:46 pm If the Cardinals are going to be really competitive. They need a slugger like Harper in the middle of the batting order. I look for possible solutions. Some others here just look to criticize. Real cool. Maybe they need to try to offer some bold solutions.
No way. That dude is not going to earn his huge salary the next few. Really bad proposal Shady. Never even considered by anyone with an ounce of baseball acumen.
So you, having an abundance of "baseball acumen", please tell us your suggestion for making the Cardinals a true contender next season. I'm looking forward to you sharing your brilliance. Let's see it.
Are you retarded?

SY, hotshot. You ain't nothing special.

Posted: **26 Oct 2025 18:43 pm**

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 18:38 pm
Shady wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 18:28 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 18:25 pm
Shady wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 16:23 pm Harper is a proven slugger. However, probably too expensive for the Cardinals.
You would have been better off pitching a trade of Wetherholt and Liberatore for Skenes. Pittsburgh has already wasted two years of Skenes and Wetherholt gives them an everyday player who is promotable right now with 6 years of control and a decent mid-to backend starter with 3 more years of control.

I know this example is far-fetched but those are the only types of moves a team in our position should consider if moving such a high-end prospect. Star level youth at a position of great need.
That's an intriguing trade proposal. Much better than the Wetherholt for Harper that I threw out there. Though, the Cardinals could include some salary relief in a Wetherholt for Harper deal to make it more palatable. Harper is a really, really good, proven MLB slugger in case anybody hasn't noticed..
Giving the Phillies salary relief would make it even worse. Harper is a stud, but he’s too old for that deal. Phillies would be fleecing us, unless it turned out that Wetherholt was a complete bust and Harper managed to stay very healthy for years to come, but that’s two unlikely bets to make that we can’t afford to lose.

Yep, it would be a gamble. But I remember the Carlson, Gorman and Walker situations.

Posted: **26 Oct 2025 18:45 pm**

Shady wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 17:38 pm Problem here. Too many don't offer any viable solutions. But they love to take the cheap shot route of criticizing someone that tries to.

My problem is I don’t know enough about trade values to answer your question specifically but I would be interested to see what a Winn/Donovan deal would bring. It’s taken me a long time to digest trading Donovan but there is going to have to be some bold moves. Also I would only consider that type of deal for offense not pitching.

And even so I would only do as part of a rebuild not looking for quick fix.

Posted: **26 Oct 2025 18:48 pm**

Shady wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 18:43 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 18:38 pm
Shady wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 18:28 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 18:25 pm
Shady wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 16:23 pm Harper is a proven slugger. However, probably too expensive for the Cardinals.
You would have been better off pitching a trade of Wetherholt and Liberatore for Skenes. Pittsburgh has already wasted two years of Skenes and Wetherholt gives them an everyday player who is promotable right now with 6 years of control and a decent mid-to backend starter with 3 more years of control.

I know this example is far-fetched but those are the only types of moves a team in our position should consider if moving such a high-end prospect. Star level youth at a position of great need.
That's an intriguing trade proposal. Much better than the Wetherholt for Harper that I threw out there. Though, the Cardinals could include some salary relief in a Wetherholt for Harper deal to make it more palatable. Harper is a really, really good, proven MLB slugger in case anybody hasn't noticed..
Giving the Phillies salary relief would make it even worse. Harper is a stud, but he’s too old for that deal. Phillies would be fleecing us, unless it turned out that Wetherholt was a complete bust and Harper managed to stay very healthy for years to come, but that’s two unlikely bets to make that we can’t afford to lose.
Yep, it would be a gamble. But I remember Carlson, Gorman and Walker.

I actually got it backwards…you meant the Phillies giving the relief, of course. Still, they’d have to basically pay him to play in STL, so relief is an understatement. Even then, he’s still too old. Maybe if this was going to be his age 30 season or something. Youth for youth only. Can’t trade our best youth to get older.

Posted: **26 Oct 2025 18:54 pm**

I wouldn't trade Wetherholt for Harper. But I'm sure the Phillies would jump at a return of Burleson and Saggese. Make it happen!

Posted: **26 Oct 2025 18:58 pm**

I dont think that would be a very good move.

Posted: **26 Oct 2025 19:27 pm**

Sweet mother of god I pray the team isn't as incredibly stupid enough to trade a potential star with all of his control left for a 33 year old star dragging a massive contract with him. Please don't let this idiotic idea ever leave this forum.

PS - Phil would leap at this offer.

Posted: **26 Oct 2025 19:28 pm**

Well…..let’s see

Trade a young, highly rated prospect….under team control for six years

for an aging, highly paid player whose best years are probably behind him…

What could go wrong?

Posted: **26 Oct 2025 19:30 pm**

Shady wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 18:41 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 18:35 pm
Shady wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 17:59 pm
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 17:54 pm
Shady wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 16:46 pm If the Cardinals are going to be really competitive. They need a slugger like Harper in the middle of the batting order. I look for possible solutions. Some others here just look to criticize. Real cool. Maybe they need to try to offer some bold solutions.
No way. That dude is not going to earn his huge salary the next few. Really bad proposal Shady. Never even considered by anyone with an ounce of baseball acumen.
So you, having an abundance of "baseball acumen", please tell us your suggestion for making the Cardinals a true contender next season. I'm looking forward to you sharing your brilliance. Let's see it.
Are you retarded?
SY, hotshot. You ain't nothing special.

First you make a stupid proposal that’s totally out of the realm of what Bloom is trying to do.

Then, you can’t even handle honest criticism from MIDMOBIRDTWO and others.

Posted: **26 Oct 2025 19:34 pm**

Shady wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 18:18 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 18:08 pm This team is perpetually rebuilding or resetting or whatever the hell they’re calling it.

As much as I hate prospect drooling and believe experience and proven veterans are needed on this team, I have to say Wetherholt is too much (like the aforementioned Devers scenario) and Harper is too old. We’ve been burned by the age wall way too much the last several years….Arenado, Goldschmidt, Yadi, Wainwright.

The team needs to target the 28 and under young veteran in either trades or free agency.
Good reasoning. I don't disagree. "target the 28 and under young veteran in either trades or free agency". That absolutely would be ideal. I just threw the Wetherholt for Harper suggestion out there on another slow day on CT. LOL

So you’re saying you needed some attention.

Posted: **26 Oct 2025 19:34 pm**

Why do you people keep falling into the “Shady” trap and keep feeding the monster?
No sane person would even realistically consider this inane perposal! Hes just doing it for the attention.
Don’t respond and he’ll, eventually, go away!

Posted: **26 Oct 2025 19:46 pm**

Hoosier59 wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 19:34 pm Why do you people keep falling into the “Shady” trap and keep feeding the monster?
No sane person would even realistically consider this inane perposal! Hes just doing it for the attention.
Don’t respond and he’ll, eventually, go away!

Sadly he will not go away.

Posted: **26 Oct 2025 19:58 pm**

Shady wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 16:23 pm Harper is a proven slugger. However, probably too expensive for the Cardinals.

Shady, I have actually come to your defense on some of your discussions. Bro, you make it very difficult to take your initiated topics seriously. You put yourself out there. Dont ever complain that people are bashing you. This is perhaps your dumbest thread in your posting career. I just hope you dont ever find a way to top it. Go get some fresh air brother.

Posted: **26 Oct 2025 21:19 pm**

Shady wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 16:23 pm Harper is a proven slugger. However, probably too expensive for the Cardinals.

You're a (bleep)

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