Would Cardinals give Wetherholt in exchange for Harper?

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Re: Would Cardinals give Wetherholt in exchange for Harper?

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Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:23 pm Harper is a proven slugger. However, probably too expensive for the Cardinals.
Respectfully, no team in baseball would swap Weatherholt for Harper right now.
Except, of course, the Phillies.
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Re: Would Cardinals give Wetherholt in exchange for Harper?

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hullie wrote: 26 Oct 2025 17:45 pm
Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:23 pm Harper is a proven slugger. However, probably too expensive for the Cardinals.
What time you start drinking?
I still haven't noticed your reasoning for Burleson being a "light hitting clown". I hope you have an excuse, other than, possibly, drinking, for your gross ignorance
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Re: Would Cardinals give Wetherholt in exchange for Harper?

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Melville wrote: 26 Oct 2025 17:48 pm
Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:23 pm Harper is a proven slugger. However, probably too expensive for the Cardinals.
Respectfully, no team in baseball would swap Weatherholt for Harper right now.
Except, of course, the Phillies.
How about the Unicorn for Harper? Would the Phillies go for that? Do you absolutely guarantee Wetherholt will be more successful at the MLB level than Gorman? If not, why not trade him for an established slugger?
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Re: Would Cardinals give Wetherholt in exchange for Harper?

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Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:46 pm If the Cardinals are going to be really competitive. They need a slugger like Harper in the middle of the batting order. I look for possible solutions. Some others here just look to criticize. Real cool. Maybe they need to try to offer some bold solutions.
No way. That dude is not going to earn his huge salary the next few. Really bad proposal Shady. Never even considered by anyone with an ounce of baseball acumen.
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Re: Would Cardinals give Wetherholt in exchange for Harper?

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MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 26 Oct 2025 17:54 pm
Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:46 pm If the Cardinals are going to be really competitive. They need a slugger like Harper in the middle of the batting order. I look for possible solutions. Some others here just look to criticize. Real cool. Maybe they need to try to offer some bold solutions.
No way. That dude is not going to earn his huge salary the next few. Really bad proposal Shady. Never even considered by anyone with an ounce of baseball acumen.
So you, having an abundance of "baseball acumen", please tell us your suggestion for making the Cardinals a true contender next season. I'm looking forward to you sharing your brilliance. Let's see it.
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Re: Would Cardinals give Wetherholt in exchange for Harper?

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Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 17:38 pm Problem here. Too many don't offer any viable solutions. But they love to take the cheap shot route of criticizing someone that tries to.
Problem is we’re still waiting to hear even one “viable solution” from you. Your “viable solutions” usually involve fantastical trade proposals in which the Cardinals get massive hauls in exchange for a few buckets of balls.
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Re: Would Cardinals give Wetherholt in exchange for Harper?

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NYCardsFan wrote: 26 Oct 2025 18:03 pm
Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 17:38 pm Problem here. Too many don't offer any viable solutions. But they love to take the cheap shot route of criticizing someone that tries to.
Problem is we’re still waiting to hear even one “viable solution” from you. Your “viable solutions” usually involve fantastical trade proposals in which the Cardinals get massive hauls in exchange for a buckets of balls.
:D
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Re: Would Cardinals give Wetherholt in exchange for Harper?

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Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 17:01 pm
craviduce wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:59 pm
Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:57 pm
craviduce wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:56 pm
Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:55 pm
craviduce wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:52 pm
Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:46 pm If the Cardinals are going to be really competitive. They need a slugger like Harper in the middle of the batting order. I look for possible solutions. Some others here just look to criticize. Maybe they need to try to offer some bold solutions.
No one is looking to criticize you....stop being a "professional victim"

You REFUSE to accept what the Front Office has said over and over again...."this coming season will be a rebuild year."

If you refuse to accept it and make the ridiculous threads like this, you'll get fair criticism.
You offer nothing but rebuttal. Weak. weak weak.
deflection.... get better at this.

:D
What's your realistic proposal for improving the Cardinals in '26. Let's see it.
What part of "Rebuild in 2026" can you not understand or cannot accept?

Jatalk was right above "dumb, dumb, dumb"
Wasn't '25 supposed to be a "rebuild"? Attendance and interest is wavering. It's time for better results in '26.
This team is perpetually rebuilding or resetting or whatever the hell they’re calling it.

As much as I hate prospect drooling and believe experience and proven veterans are needed on this team, I have to say Wetherholt is too much (like the aforementioned Devers scenario) and Harper is too old. We’ve been burned by the age wall way too much the last several years….Arenado, Goldschmidt, Yadi, Wainwright.

The team needs to target the 28 and under young veteran in either trades or free agency.
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Re: Would Cardinals give Wetherholt in exchange for Harper?

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Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 17:38 pm Problem here. Too many don't offer any viable solutions. But they love to take the cheap shot route of criticizing someone that tries to.
Where's your boyfriend 'Baghdad Bob' to offer some support?
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Re: Would Cardinals give Wetherholt in exchange for Harper?

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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 26 Oct 2025 18:08 pm
Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 17:01 pm
craviduce wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:59 pm
Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:57 pm
craviduce wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:56 pm
Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:55 pm
craviduce wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:52 pm
Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:46 pm If the Cardinals are going to be really competitive. They need a slugger like Harper in the middle of the batting order. I look for possible solutions. Some others here just look to criticize. Maybe they need to try to offer some bold solutions.
No one is looking to criticize you....stop being a "professional victim"

You REFUSE to accept what the Front Office has said over and over again...."this coming season will be a rebuild year."

If you refuse to accept it and make the ridiculous threads like this, you'll get fair criticism.
You offer nothing but rebuttal. Weak. weak weak.
deflection.... get better at this.

:D
What's your realistic proposal for improving the Cardinals in '26. Let's see it.
What part of "Rebuild in 2026" can you not understand or cannot accept?

Jatalk was right above "dumb, dumb, dumb"
Wasn't '25 supposed to be a "rebuild"? Attendance and interest is wavering. It's time for better results in '26.
This team is perpetually rebuilding or resetting or whatever the hell they’re calling it.

As much as I hate prospect drooling and believe experience and proven veterans are needed on this team, I have to say Wetherholt is too much (like the aforementioned Devers scenario) and Harper is too old. We’ve been burned by the age wall way too much the last several years….Arenado, Goldschmidt, Yadi, Wainwright.

The team needs to target the 28 and under young veteran in either trades or free agency.
Good reasoning. I don't disagree. "target the 28 and under young veteran in either trades or free agency". That absolutely would be ideal. I just threw the Wetherholt for Harper suggestion out there on another slow day on CT. LOL
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Re: Would Cardinals give Wetherholt in exchange for Harper?

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Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:23 pm Harper is a proven slugger. However, probably too expensive for the Cardinals.
No....they should absolutely NOT trade JJ for Harper!!!!
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Re: Would Cardinals give Wetherholt in exchange for Harper?

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Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:23 pm Harper is a proven slugger. However, probably too expensive for the Cardinals.
You would have been better off pitching a trade of Wetherholt and Liberatore for Skenes. Pittsburgh has already wasted two years of Skenes and Wetherholt gives them an everyday player who is promotable right now with 6 years of control and a decent mid-to backend starter with 3 more years of control.

I know this example is far-fetched but those are the only types of moves a team in our position should consider if moving such a high-end prospect. Star level youth at a position of great need.
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Re: Would Cardinals give Wetherholt in exchange for Harper?

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Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:47 pm
Jatalk wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:34 pm Let me add

He’s 33 on tail end of career

Contract at 25 mill goes through 2032

He has NTC. No way he would go to cardinals.

Dumb, dumb dumb.
Harper can still slug with the best of them. What's Sosa making? 25 million/year for Harper would be a bargain.
Oh let’s see by the time his contract expires he’ll be 41 years old. And oh let’s see we will take a chunk of the available payroll and spend on one player when we need multiple players. And oh let’s see…… it’s a bad idea.
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Re: Would Cardinals give Wetherholt in exchange for Harper?

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NYCardsFan wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:41 pm
Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:23 pm Harper is a proven slugger. However, probably too expensive for the Cardinals.
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Re: Would Cardinals give Wetherholt in exchange for Harper?

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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 26 Oct 2025 18:25 pm
Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:23 pm Harper is a proven slugger. However, probably too expensive for the Cardinals.
You would have been better off pitching a trade of Wetherholt and Liberatore for Skenes. Pittsburgh has already wasted two years of Skenes and Wetherholt gives them an everyday player who is promotable right now with 6 years of control and a decent mid-to backend starter with 3 more years of control.

I know this example is far-fetched but those are the only types of moves a team in our position should consider if moving such a high-end prospect. Star level youth at a position of great need.
That's an intriguing trade proposal. Much better than the Wetherholt for Harper that I threw out there. Though, the Cardinals could include some salary relief in a Wetherholt for Harper deal to make it more palatable. Harper is a really, really good, proven MLB slugger in case anybody hasn't noticed. Who have the Cardinals had even close to him in the recent past? Please don't say Goldschmidt, Arenado and Contreras sin the last few years.
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Re: Would Cardinals give Wetherholt in exchange for Harper?

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Melville wrote: 26 Oct 2025 17:48 pm
Shady wrote: 26 Oct 2025 16:23 pm Harper is a proven slugger. However, probably too expensive for the Cardinals.
Respectfully, no team in baseball would swap Weatherholt for Harper right now.
Except, of course, the Phillies.
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