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Re: Pallante = Mikolas

Posted: 16 Aug 2025 10:00 am
by CCard
rockondlouie wrote: 16 Aug 2025 09:56 am
CCard wrote: 16 Aug 2025 09:53 am
rockondlouie wrote: 10 Aug 2025 09:01 am NO WAY A. Pallante can be in the
    2026 starting rotation plans.

    He's got similar stats to one of the worst starters in MLB, M. Mikolas:

    Pallante
    23 GS
    4.95 ERA
    4.51 FiP
    1.37 WHiP
    5.8 SO9

    Mikolas
    22 GS
    5.11 ERA
    4.90 FiP
    1.32 WHiP
    6.2 SO9

    Back to trying to win a spot in the 2026 bullpen, he's NOT even a #5 major league starter.
    Yeah, I was surprised to see that Pallante had struck out 8. That's more than usual but he still doesn't consistently miss enough bats. He really needs to develop a split finger or some kind of out pitch. It may be too late in the game for him to do that I guess. Imanaga just kills batters with that split. It would be nice to see some Cards pitchers develop that.
    Yankees hitters have been struggling lately, 45 KO's in their last 160 AB's!
    I picture the Yanks as a feast or famine offense. Getting Chisolm helped them I'm sure. Teams do go through these things though. Still, striking out 8 times against Pallante would hurt a lot unless of course they win, which they did.

    Re: Pallante = Mikolas

    Posted: 16 Aug 2025 10:02 am
    by rockondlouie
    sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 16 Aug 2025 09:49 am
    rockondlouie wrote: 16 Aug 2025 09:44 am
    12xu wrote: 16 Aug 2025 09:12 am The Cardinals only have three starting pitchers currently in St. Louis who should be starting next season: Gray, Liberatore, and McGreevy. Bloom has to add some new arms this winter - one way or another.
    Yep

    Gray
    Libby
    McG
    Leahy (reportedly being converted to a starter)
    Bloom trades for or signs (an inexpensive starter)

    Doyle should be on a very fast track, "Q" could be as well.

    Plenty of starters but one things for sure, Pallante must go!
    I’m still gonna disagree. You get four solid starters above number five and five becomes a non factor.

    Plus, where is this great number five you want to replace him. I don’t see where another will do much better.

    And the potential is greater than the downside.

    My thoughts
    He turns 27 years old in a few days BDog

    With a 5.04 ERA he's going the wrong way in his career, regressing and getting worse.

    Since July 1st he's posted a 6.31 ERA in his 8 GS and the team is 1 - 7.

    No good.

    No team wants a #5 who throws BP and gives their team little chance to win when he pitches.

    Respect as always BDog but.......

    Pallante is JAG

    Cut the cord and move on, he'd never be missed.

    Re: Pallante = Mikolas

    Posted: 16 Aug 2025 10:03 am
    by sikeston bulldog2
    rockondlouie wrote: 16 Aug 2025 10:02 am
    sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 16 Aug 2025 09:49 am
    rockondlouie wrote: 16 Aug 2025 09:44 am
    12xu wrote: 16 Aug 2025 09:12 am The Cardinals only have three starting pitchers currently in St. Louis who should be starting next season: Gray, Liberatore, and McGreevy. Bloom has to add some new arms this winter - one way or another.
    Yep

    Gray
    Libby
    McG
    Leahy (reportedly being converted to a starter)
    Bloom trades for or signs (an inexpensive starter)

    Doyle should be on a very fast track, "Q" could be as well.

    Plenty of starters but one things for sure, Pallante must go!
    I’m still gonna disagree. You get four solid starters above number five and five becomes a non factor.

    Plus, where is this great number five you want to replace him. I don’t see where another will do much better.

    And the potential is greater than the downside.

    My thoughts
    He turns 27 years old in a few days BDog

    With a 5.04 ERA he's going the wrong way in his career, regressing and getting worse.

    Since July 1st he's posted a 6.31 ERA in his 8 GS and the team is 1 - 7.

    No good.

    No team wants a #5 who throws BP and gives their team little chance to win when he pitches.

    Respect as always BDog but.......

    Pallante is JAG

    Cut the cord and move on, he'd never be missed.
    Good banter.

    Re: Pallante = Mikolas

    Posted: 16 Aug 2025 11:40 am
    by renostl
    sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 16 Aug 2025 10:03 am
    rockondlouie wrote: 16 Aug 2025 10:02 am
    sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 16 Aug 2025 09:49 am
    rockondlouie wrote: 16 Aug 2025 09:44 am
    12xu wrote: 16 Aug 2025 09:12 am The Cardinals only have three starting pitchers currently in St. Louis who should be starting next season: Gray, Liberatore, and McGreevy. Bloom has to add some new arms this winter - one way or another.
    Yep

    Gray
    Libby
    McG
    Leahy (reportedly being converted to a starter)
    Bloom trades for or signs (an inexpensive starter)

    Doyle should be on a very fast track, "Q" could be as well.

    Plenty of starters but one things for sure, Pallante must go!
    I’m still gonna disagree. You get four solid starters above number five and five becomes a non factor.

    Plus, where is this great number five you want to replace him. I don’t see where another will do much better.

    And the potential is greater than the downside.

    My thoughts
    He turns 27 years old in a few days BDog

    With a 5.04 ERA he's going the wrong way in his career, regressing and getting worse.

    Since July 1st he's posted a 6.31 ERA in his 8 GS and the team is 1 - 7.

    No good.

    No team wants a #5 who throws BP and gives their team little chance to win when he pitches.

    Respect as always BDog but.......

    Pallante is JAG

    Cut the cord and move on, he'd never be missed.
    Good banter.
    Pallante is probably a #5 with his current repertoire.

    I think he lost his best pitching coach from 2024 though in Gibson.

    Re: Pallante = Mikolas

    Posted: 21 Aug 2025 09:05 am
    by rockondlouie
    Okay new comp for Pitiful Pallante

    Pallante = Fedde

    Fedde as a Cardinal:

    5.22 ERA
    1.50 WHiP
    .270 BA against

    Pallante:

    5.17 ERA
    1.41 WHiP
    .268 BA against

    Pallante absolutely CANNOT be in the 2026 rotation.

    Either back to the pen', toss in as a nothing chip in any trade or DFA.

    Re: Pallante = Mikolas

    Posted: 21 Aug 2025 09:10 am
    by ecleme22
    rockondlouie wrote: 21 Aug 2025 09:05 am Okay new comp for Pitiful Pallante

    Pallante = Fedde

    Fedde as a Cardinal:

    5.22 ERA
    1.50 WHiP
    .270 BA against

    Pallante:

    5.17 ERA
    1.41 WHiP
    .268 BA against

    Pallante absolutely CANNOT be in the 2026 rotation.

    Either back to the pen', toss in as a nothing chip in any trade or DFA.
    Of course he won’t be in the rotation.