Pallante = Mikolas

[sikeston bulldog2]

No hitter into sixth and trailing when he left in the seventh. No decision.

Against an 88 lose team headed for 100+ loses.

But still a MLB team?

[OldRed]

No hitter into sixth and trailing when he left in the seventh. No decision.

Against an 88 lose team headed for 100+ loses.

But still a MLB team?

Cardinals are loaded with #5 pitchers.

[rockondlouie]

No hitter into sixth and trailing when he left in the seventh. No decision.

Against an 88 lose team headed for 100+ loses.

But still a MLB team?

AAAA team

[rockondlouie]

I owe M. Mikolas an apology

A. Pallante is WORSE than Mikolas!

Pallante
5.04 ERA
1.38 WHiP

Mikolas
4.97 ERA
1.28 WHiP

Mikolas gone after next month, Pallante needs to be right behind him w/a DFA.

[12xu]

The Cardinals only have three starting pitchers currently in St. Louis who should be starting next season: Gray, Liberatore, and McGreevy. Bloom has to add some new arms this winter - one way or another.

[sikeston bulldog2]

The Cardinals only have three starting pitchers currently in St. Louis who should be starting next season: Gray, Liberatore, and McGreevy. Bloom has to add some new arms this winter - one way or another.

I get the Pallante doubts. I see him as a number five. Every team needs one. He makes a great great. When he’s on, he’s unbeatable. There is that potential.

[12xu]

The Cardinals only have three starting pitchers currently in St. Louis who should be starting next season: Gray, Liberatore, and McGreevy. Bloom has to add some new arms this winter - one way or another.

I get the Pallante doubts. I see him as a number five. Every team needs one. He makes a great great. When he’s on, he’s unbeatable. There is that potential.

He is only "on" about 1 in 5 starts, and like last night, after he had already surrendered 4 early runs. Not good enough for even a #5 starter. Use him in long relief, or trade him in a package. I have seen enough of him.

[sikeston bulldog2]

The Cardinals only have three starting pitchers currently in St. Louis who should be starting next season: Gray, Liberatore, and McGreevy. Bloom has to add some new arms this winter - one way or another.

I get the Pallante doubts. I see him as a number five. Every team needs one. He makes a great great. When he’s on, he’s unbeatable. There is that potential.

He is only "on" about 1 in 5 starts, and like last night, after he had already surrendered 4 early runs. Not good enough for even a #5 starter. Use him in long relief, or trade him in a package. I have seen enough of him.

I tout your stats input. I didn’t think it was one in five, that is a bit strong. I hear ya, surrendered runs early is a drag. But 8 K’s and a decent four addition innings. That’s close if not three times thru the lineup.

[The Nard]

The Cardinals only have three starting pitchers currently in St. Louis who should be starting next season: Gray, Liberatore, and McGreevy. Bloom has to add some new arms this winter - one way or another.

I get the Pallante doubts. I see him as a number five. Every team needs one. He makes a great great. When he’s on, he’s unbeatable. There is that potential.

He is only "on" about 1 in 5 starts, and like last night, after he had already surrendered 4 early runs. Not good enough for even a #5 starter. Use him in long relief, or trade him in a package. I have seen enough of him.

I tout your stats input. I didn’t think it was one in five, that is a bit strong. I hear ya, surrendered runs early is a drag. But 8 K’s and a decent four addition innings. That’s close if not three times thru the lineup.

I see a lot of potential with Pallante. Reminds me a bit of the early Kyle Lohse type, who matured as a good starter only when reaching age 29 with the Cardinals, after struggling earlier in his career with inconsistency.

Perhaps his warm up routine needs a closer examination. It’s time for him to “ask a veteran”; Wainwright, maybe ( although his warmups were brief)?

[sikeston bulldog2]

The Cardinals only have three starting pitchers currently in St. Louis who should be starting next season: Gray, Liberatore, and McGreevy. Bloom has to add some new arms this winter - one way or another.

I get the Pallante doubts. I see him as a number five. Every team needs one. He makes a great great. When he’s on, he’s unbeatable. There is that potential.

He is only "on" about 1 in 5 starts, and like last night, after he had already surrendered 4 early runs. Not good enough for even a #5 starter. Use him in long relief, or trade him in a package. I have seen enough of him.

I tout your stats input. I didn’t think it was one in five, that is a bit strong. I hear ya, surrendered runs early is a drag. But 8 K’s and a decent four addition innings. That’s close if not three times thru the lineup.

I see a lot of potential with Pallante. Reminds me a bit of the early Kyle Lohse type, who matured as a good starter only when reaching age 29 with the Cardinals, after struggling earlier in his career with inconsistency.

Perhaps his warm up routine needs a closer examination. It’s time for him to “ask a veteran”; Wainwright, maybe ( although his warmups were brief)?

Good write. Fair. I like Pallante because- who else you gonna get to do a better job as a five. There are 180 starting pitchers. 30 number fives. Which will do better?

Here’s an idea- if the other four starters did their jobs, effectively, the number five would then be a- target of opportunity rather than a doom game.

[rockondlouie]

The Cardinals only have three starting pitchers currently in St. Louis who should be starting next season: Gray, Liberatore, and McGreevy. Bloom has to add some new arms this winter - one way or another.

Yep

Gray
Libby
McG
Leahy (reportedly being converted to a starter)
Bloom trades for or signs (an inexpensive starter)

Doyle should be on a very fast track, "Q" could be as well.

Plenty of starters but one things for sure, Pallante must go!

[rockondlouie]

The Cardinals only have three starting pitchers currently in St. Louis who should be starting next season: Gray, Liberatore, and McGreevy. Bloom has to add some new arms this winter - one way or another.

I get the Pallante doubts. I see him as a number five. Every team needs one. He makes a great great. When he’s on, he’s unbeatable. There is that potential.

Sorry BDog I know he's been your guy and we've had many chats about him

But he's JAG, not even a #5.

He has no trade value, might not want to go back to the pen', DFA and move on.

[sikeston bulldog2]

The Cardinals only have three starting pitchers currently in St. Louis who should be starting next season: Gray, Liberatore, and McGreevy. Bloom has to add some new arms this winter - one way or another.

Yep

Gray
Libby
McG
Leahy (reportedly being converted to a starter)
Bloom trades for or signs (an inexpensive starter)

Doyle should be on a very fast track, "Q" could be as well.

Plenty of starters but one things for sure, Pallante must go!

I’m still gonna disagree. You get four solid starters above number five and five becomes a non factor.

Plus, where is this great number five you want to replace him. I don’t see where another will do much better.

And the potential is greater than the downside.

My thoughts

[CCard]

NO WAY A. Pallante can be in the

2026 starting rotation plans.

He's got similar stats to one of the worst starters in MLB, M. Mikolas:

Pallante
23 GS
4.95 ERA
4.51 FiP
1.37 WHiP
5.8 SO9

Mikolas
22 GS
5.11 ERA
4.90 FiP
1.32 WHiP
6.2 SO9

Back to trying to win a spot in the 2026 bullpen, he's NOT even a #5 major league starter.

Yeah, I was surprised to see that Pallante had struck out 8. That's more than usual but he still doesn't consistently miss enough bats. He really needs to develop a split finger or some kind of out pitch. It may be too late in the game for him to do that I guess. Imanaga just kills batters with that split. It would be nice to see some Cards pitchers develop that.

[rockondlouie]

NO WAY A. Pallante can be in the

2026 starting rotation plans.

He's got similar stats to one of the worst starters in MLB, M. Mikolas:

Pallante
23 GS
4.95 ERA
4.51 FiP
1.37 WHiP
5.8 SO9

Mikolas
22 GS
5.11 ERA
4.90 FiP
1.32 WHiP
6.2 SO9

Back to trying to win a spot in the 2026 bullpen, he's NOT even a #5 major league starter.

Yeah, I was surprised to see that Pallante had struck out 8. That's more than usual but he still doesn't consistently miss enough bats. He really needs to develop a split finger or some kind of out pitch. It may be too late in the game for him to do that I guess. Imanaga just kills batters with that split. It would be nice to see some Cards pitchers develop that.

Yankees hitters have been struggling lately, 45 KO's in their last 160 AB's!

[sikeston bulldog2]

NO WAY A. Pallante can be in the

2026 starting rotation plans.

He's got similar stats to one of the worst starters in MLB, M. Mikolas:

Pallante
23 GS
4.95 ERA
4.51 FiP
1.37 WHiP
5.8 SO9

Mikolas
22 GS
5.11 ERA
4.90 FiP
1.32 WHiP
6.2 SO9

Back to trying to win a spot in the 2026 bullpen, he's NOT even a #5 major league starter.

Yeah, I was surprised to see that Pallante had struck out 8. That's more than usual but he still doesn't consistently miss enough bats. He really needs to develop a split finger or some kind of out pitch. It may be too late in the game for him to do that I guess. Imanaga just kills batters with that split. It would be nice to see some Cards pitchers develop that.

Yankees hitters have been struggling lately, 45 KO's in their last 160 AB's!

Not fair. He also struck out eight in five innings/ and it was a better team of hitters. For a five, four runs in five innings is too many. Three runs, for a five, is reasonable.