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Re: First woman umpire debuts

Posted: 07 Aug 2025 20:24 pm
by renostl
Clubmaker2 wrote: 06 Aug 2025 14:27 pm they havent replace (bad) umps often enough to have room to move people up. Imagine if each season the worst 8 percent got demoted to aaa and the top aaa promoted...
At some point the arbitrary 8% would become a very well-functioning group.
What if they just brought up the next best person when an opening
either by production or other reasons happened?

Re: First woman umpire debuts

Posted: 07 Aug 2025 20:38 pm
by kyace
My guess the first player or manager tossed would be the one who tells her to take a Midol

Re: First woman umpire debuts

Posted: 07 Aug 2025 20:56 pm
by Cardinals4Life
scoutyjones2 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:13 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:40 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:06 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 10:03 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 07 Aug 2025 09:57 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 08:34 am
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 22:08 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 06 Aug 2025 21:49 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 14:02 pm This weekend in Braves series.
Bravo.
Okay, thanks for sharing.
But why bravo? Just curious.
Because it is long past due, that’s why.
Because the sexist walls continue to crumble. And that’s something to celebrate.
Why is it long overdue?

why is any specific gender, in any arena of business, supposed to be guaranteed a job in that arena?

I don't care personally, doesn't effect me in anyway shape or form, but what difference does it make?
who said anything about a guarantee ?
By stating that it is long overdue, it is essentially stating that there needs to be a woman umpire.

Use whatever definition you want
So what you’re saying is though baseball has been around for 150+ years, it’s simply a coincidental statistical anomaly that there has never been a woman umpire?

Cool.
Nothing coincidental about it. It is a man's sport. That doesn't mean that's wrong. Simply fact.
Since when is it a man's sport. We had girls in little league
Ummmmm pretty much since the beginning of game.

Re: First woman umpire debuts

Posted: 07 Aug 2025 20:57 pm
by Cardinals4Life
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:16 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:10 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:01 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:40 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:06 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 10:03 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 07 Aug 2025 09:57 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 08:34 am
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 22:08 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 06 Aug 2025 21:49 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 14:02 pm This weekend in Braves series.
Bravo.
Okay, thanks for sharing.
But why bravo? Just curious.
Because it is long past due, that’s why.
Because the sexist walls continue to crumble. And that’s something to celebrate.
Why is it long overdue?

why is any specific gender, in any arena of business, supposed to be guaranteed a job in that arena?

I don't care personally, doesn't effect me in anyway shape or form, but what difference does it make?
who said anything about a guarantee ?
By stating that it is long overdue, it is essentially stating that there needs to be a woman umpire.

Use whatever definition you want
So what you’re saying is though baseball has been around for 150+ years, it’s simply a coincidental statistical anomaly that there has never been a woman umpire?

Cool.
Nothing coincidental about it. It is a man's sport. That doesn't mean that's wrong. Simply fact.
So women weren’t allowed to for years, is what you’re saying?
No. Just saying that men play baseball. It's been a male sport. Softball has been a female sport. Nothing wrong with that. Just the facts.
Umpires don’t play the game.
Nope.

Re: First woman umpire debuts

Posted: 07 Aug 2025 21:04 pm
by ecleme22
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:57 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:16 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:10 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:01 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:40 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:06 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 10:03 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 07 Aug 2025 09:57 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 08:34 am
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 22:08 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 06 Aug 2025 21:49 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 14:02 pm This weekend in Braves series.
Bravo.
Okay, thanks for sharing.
But why bravo? Just curious.
Because it is long past due, that’s why.
Because the sexist walls continue to crumble. And that’s something to celebrate.
Why is it long overdue?

why is any specific gender, in any arena of business, supposed to be guaranteed a job in that arena?

I don't care personally, doesn't effect me in anyway shape or form, but what difference does it make?
who said anything about a guarantee ?
By stating that it is long overdue, it is essentially stating that there needs to be a woman umpire.

Use whatever definition you want
So what you’re saying is though baseball has been around for 150+ years, it’s simply a coincidental statistical anomaly that there has never been a woman umpire?

Cool.
Nothing coincidental about it. It is a man's sport. That doesn't mean that's wrong. Simply fact.
So women weren’t allowed to for years, is what you’re saying?
No. Just saying that men play baseball. It's been a male sport. Softball has been a female sport. Nothing wrong with that. Just the facts.
Umpires don’t play the game.
Nope.
So your argument is bunk

Re: First woman umpire debuts

Posted: 07 Aug 2025 21:06 pm
by TheJackBurton
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:06 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 10:03 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 07 Aug 2025 09:57 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 08:34 am
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 22:08 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 06 Aug 2025 21:49 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 14:02 pm This weekend in Braves series.
Bravo.
Okay, thanks for sharing.
But why bravo? Just curious.
Because it is long past due, that’s why.
Because the sexist walls continue to crumble. And that’s something to celebrate.
Why is it long overdue?

why is any specific gender, in any arena of business, supposed to be guaranteed a job in that arena?

I don't care personally, doesn't effect me in anyway shape or form, but what difference does it make?
who said anything about a guarantee ?
By stating that it is long overdue, it is essentially stating that there needs to be a woman umpire.

Use whatever definition you want
So what you’re saying is though baseball has been around for 150+ years, it’s simply a coincidental statistical anomaly that there has never been a woman umpire?

Cool.
I see reading comprehension is not your strong suit. That's ok champ keep working at it.

Re: First woman umpire debuts

Posted: 07 Aug 2025 21:08 pm
by TheJackBurton
scoutyjones2 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:13 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:40 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:06 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 10:03 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 07 Aug 2025 09:57 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 08:34 am
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 22:08 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 06 Aug 2025 21:49 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 14:02 pm This weekend in Braves series.
Bravo.
Okay, thanks for sharing.
But why bravo? Just curious.
Because it is long past due, that’s why.
Because the sexist walls continue to crumble. And that’s something to celebrate.
Why is it long overdue?

why is any specific gender, in any arena of business, supposed to be guaranteed a job in that arena?

I don't care personally, doesn't effect me in anyway shape or form, but what difference does it make?
who said anything about a guarantee ?
By stating that it is long overdue, it is essentially stating that there needs to be a woman umpire.

Use whatever definition you want
So what you’re saying is though baseball has been around for 150+ years, it’s simply a coincidental statistical anomaly that there has never been a woman umpire?

Cool.
Nothing coincidental about it. It is a man's sport. That doesn't mean that's wrong. Simply fact.
Since when is it a man's sport. We had girls in little league
Why is it ok for women to play in men's leagues though?

Re: First woman umpire debuts

Posted: 07 Aug 2025 21:11 pm
by Cardinals4Life
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 21:04 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:57 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:16 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:10 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:01 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:40 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:06 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 10:03 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 07 Aug 2025 09:57 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 08:34 am
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 22:08 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 06 Aug 2025 21:49 pm

Okay, thanks for sharing.
But why bravo? Just curious.
Because it is long past due, that’s why.
Because the sexist walls continue to crumble. And that’s something to celebrate.
Why is it long overdue?

why is any specific gender, in any arena of business, supposed to be guaranteed a job in that arena?

I don't care personally, doesn't effect me in anyway shape or form, but what difference does it make?
who said anything about a guarantee ?
By stating that it is long overdue, it is essentially stating that there needs to be a woman umpire.

Use whatever definition you want
So what you’re saying is though baseball has been around for 150+ years, it’s simply a coincidental statistical anomaly that there has never been a woman umpire?

Cool.
Nothing coincidental about it. It is a man's sport. That doesn't mean that's wrong. Simply fact.
So women weren’t allowed to for years, is what you’re saying?
No. Just saying that men play baseball. It's been a male sport. Softball has been a female sport. Nothing wrong with that. Just the facts.
Umpires don’t play the game.
Nope.
So your argument is bunk
Not really arguing anything. Just said that baseball has traditionally been a man's sport, which it has. No argument here.

Re: First woman umpire debuts

Posted: 07 Aug 2025 21:12 pm
by ecleme22
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 21:11 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 21:04 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:57 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:16 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:10 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:01 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:40 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:06 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 10:03 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 07 Aug 2025 09:57 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 08:34 am
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 22:08 pm
Because it is long past due, that’s why.
Because the sexist walls continue to crumble. And that’s something to celebrate.
Why is it long overdue?

why is any specific gender, in any arena of business, supposed to be guaranteed a job in that arena?

I don't care personally, doesn't effect me in anyway shape or form, but what difference does it make?
who said anything about a guarantee ?
By stating that it is long overdue, it is essentially stating that there needs to be a woman umpire.

Use whatever definition you want
So what you’re saying is though baseball has been around for 150+ years, it’s simply a coincidental statistical anomaly that there has never been a woman umpire?

Cool.
Nothing coincidental about it. It is a man's sport. That doesn't mean that's wrong. Simply fact.
So women weren’t allowed to for years, is what you’re saying?
No. Just saying that men play baseball. It's been a male sport. Softball has been a female sport. Nothing wrong with that. Just the facts.
Umpires don’t play the game.
Nope.
So your argument is bunk
Not really arguing anything. Just said that baseball has traditionally been a man's sport, which it has. No argument here.
MLB is still a man’s sport.

Umpires don’t play.

Re: First woman umpire debuts

Posted: 07 Aug 2025 21:14 pm
by Cardinals4Life
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 21:12 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 21:11 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 21:04 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:57 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:16 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:10 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:01 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:40 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:06 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 10:03 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 07 Aug 2025 09:57 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 08:34 am
Why is it long overdue?

why is any specific gender, in any arena of business, supposed to be guaranteed a job in that arena?

I don't care personally, doesn't effect me in anyway shape or form, but what difference does it make?
who said anything about a guarantee ?
By stating that it is long overdue, it is essentially stating that there needs to be a woman umpire.

Use whatever definition you want
So what you’re saying is though baseball has been around for 150+ years, it’s simply a coincidental statistical anomaly that there has never been a woman umpire?

Cool.
Nothing coincidental about it. It is a man's sport. That doesn't mean that's wrong. Simply fact.
So women weren’t allowed to for years, is what you’re saying?
No. Just saying that men play baseball. It's been a male sport. Softball has been a female sport. Nothing wrong with that. Just the facts.
Umpires don’t play the game.
Nope.
So your argument is bunk
Not really arguing anything. Just said that baseball has traditionally been a man's sport, which it has. No argument here.
MLB is still a man’s sport.

Umpires don’t play.
Yeah, we agree.

Re: First woman umpire debuts

Posted: 07 Aug 2025 21:48 pm
by ramfandan
Some would say umpires do play as the other night in a Braves game , an announcer said 'The umpires 'played ' a big role in the outcome of tonight's game.
So maybe indirectly they do play in every game.

Re: First woman umpire debuts

Posted: 07 Aug 2025 21:51 pm
by sdaltons
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:10 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:01 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:40 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:06 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 10:03 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 07 Aug 2025 09:57 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 08:34 am
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 22:08 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 06 Aug 2025 21:49 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 14:02 pm This weekend in Braves series.
Bravo.
Okay, thanks for sharing.
But why bravo? Just curious.
Because it is long past due, that’s why.
Because the sexist walls continue to crumble. And that’s something to celebrate.
Why is it long overdue?

why is any specific gender, in any arena of business, supposed to be guaranteed a job in that arena?

I don't care personally, doesn't effect me in anyway shape or form, but what difference does it make?
who said anything about a guarantee ?
By stating that it is long overdue, it is essentially stating that there needs to be a woman umpire.

Use whatever definition you want
So what you’re saying is though baseball has been around for 150+ years, it’s simply a coincidental statistical anomaly that there has never been a woman umpire?

Cool.
Nothing coincidental about it. It is a man's sport. That doesn't mean that's wrong. Simply fact.
So women weren’t allowed to for years, is what you’re saying?
No. Just saying that men play baseball. It's been a male sport. Softball has been a female sport. Nothing wrong with that. Just the facts.
So the top softball leagues only have women umps then, right?

Re: First woman umpire debuts

Posted: 07 Aug 2025 21:56 pm
by Cardinals4Life
sdaltons wrote: 07 Aug 2025 21:51 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:10 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 20:01 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:40 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:06 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 10:03 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 07 Aug 2025 09:57 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 08:34 am
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 22:08 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 06 Aug 2025 21:49 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 14:02 pm This weekend in Braves series.
Bravo.
Okay, thanks for sharing.
But why bravo? Just curious.
Because it is long past due, that’s why.
Because the sexist walls continue to crumble. And that’s something to celebrate.
Why is it long overdue?

why is any specific gender, in any arena of business, supposed to be guaranteed a job in that arena?

I don't care personally, doesn't effect me in anyway shape or form, but what difference does it make?
who said anything about a guarantee ?
By stating that it is long overdue, it is essentially stating that there needs to be a woman umpire.

Use whatever definition you want
So what you’re saying is though baseball has been around for 150+ years, it’s simply a coincidental statistical anomaly that there has never been a woman umpire?

Cool.
Nothing coincidental about it. It is a man's sport. That doesn't mean that's wrong. Simply fact.
So women weren’t allowed to for years, is what you’re saying?
No. Just saying that men play baseball. It's been a male sport. Softball has been a female sport. Nothing wrong with that. Just the facts.
So the top softball leagues only have women umps then, right?
I have no idea. Don't know what the top SB leagues are. Doubtful, though.

Re: First woman umpire debuts

Posted: 08 Aug 2025 06:19 am
by 11WSChamps
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 21:06 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 19:06 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 10:03 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 07 Aug 2025 09:57 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 08:34 am
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 22:08 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 06 Aug 2025 21:49 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 14:02 pm This weekend in Braves series.
Bravo.
Okay, thanks for sharing.
But why bravo? Just curious.
Because it is long past due, that’s why.
Because the sexist walls continue to crumble. And that’s something to celebrate.
Why is it long overdue?

why is any specific gender, in any arena of business, supposed to be guaranteed a job in that arena?

I don't care personally, doesn't effect me in anyway shape or form, but what difference does it make?
who said anything about a guarantee ?
By stating that it is long overdue, it is essentially stating that there needs to be a woman umpire.

Use whatever definition you want
So what you’re saying is though baseball has been around for 150+ years, it’s simply a coincidental statistical anomaly that there has never been a woman umpire?

Cool.
I see reading comprehension is not your strong suit. That's ok champ keep working at it.
😆

Re: First woman umpire debuts

Posted: 08 Aug 2025 07:47 am
by Bad14
Goldfan wrote: 07 Aug 2025 09:08 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 07 Aug 2025 08:34 am
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 22:08 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 06 Aug 2025 21:49 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 06 Aug 2025 14:02 pm This weekend in Braves series.
Bravo.
Okay, thanks for sharing.
But why bravo? Just curious.
Because it is long past due, that’s why.
Because the sexist walls continue to crumble. And that’s something to celebrate.
Why is it long overdue?

why is any specific gender, in any arena of business, supposed to be guaranteed a job in that arena?

I don't care personally, doesn't effect me in anyway shape or form, but what difference does it make?
It all about destroying the Patriarchy and really nothing to do with Equality. They feel there’s no difference in the sexes and that Males(mostly white)have been scourge of humanity since the beginning of time…these are the same crew that cheer on pregnant women in combat.
YAY equality…..er equity for all…..Every woman should have the same opportunity as a man to get a limb blown off in some chithole overseas….
I've read enough of your posts to know you are stupid (anyone who repeatedly uses elipses doesn't know how to write), but now I see you're also a [shirt]ty woman hater. There's no reason to believe men are inherently better umpires than women. The only reason there hasn't been a woman umpire before now is the backwards thinking you just exhibited. It's not about being guaranteed a job. It's about opportunity. Not a difficult concept.

Re: First woman umpire debuts

Posted: 08 Aug 2025 07:51 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Well. She’s a woman of the world and god she knows. She turns my head every time she shows it. Nothing you can do. Nothing you can say. No way you can try to change her ways. She might be gone tomorrow. Honey what are you gonna do.

Aerosmith.