Cranny wrote: ↑29 May 2025 11:36 am
So it's not worth going to watch a team that's 32-24 so far?
90 percent of the fan base lives far from STL. Me- 800 miles. What are we supposed to do to show fan support in your estimation.
Move to downtown St. Louis, go to all the games, party at ballpark village, have tons of fun rooting for the club with other like minded people in baseball heaven and be loyal to what provides it. Some of us who have are living the best way any baseball fan can.
The least you can probably do is not bash on the club
“Loyal to what provides it?”
DO NOT QUESTION DEAR LEADER!!!
Don't try to frame that as some kind of a cult thing. That's ridiculous! The Cardinals support the community and their fans just as much (if not more) than they get in return. Busch Stadium and the surrounding facilities is my favorite place on earth and I have been to just about all the places worth going to. Nothing wrong with tipping the cap to the people who built it and run it. THEY DO IT FOR US! The least we can do is appreciate it, support it and be loyal to the folks that provide it.
It's one of the big problems with society, you spoiled rotten entitled brats are never happy and too cool to acknowledge anything, even when it is what you want and ask for. Don't do that, say thanks and have fun, try to get along and support the community. You're completely illogical.
You are an idiot plainly and simply.
“THEY DO IT FOR US!”
Yes the fact that their $100 million investment is now worth 2.5 BILLION certainly proves that ownership is only “in it for the fans.”
Strange thread...a lot if fans are (upset) at DeTwit and Mo-ran...the team is playing well now...I'm assuming the attendance will creep upwards this summer if the team continues to compete...but we don't need a whiney thread telling fans what they should do...we've had this discussion in Section 148...too bad the front office (donkey) kissers think fans owe the players anything...
Cranny wrote: ↑29 May 2025 11:36 am
So it's not worth going to watch a team that's 32-24 so far?
90 percent of the fan base lives far from STL. Me- 800 miles. What are we supposed to do to show fan support in your estimation.
Move to downtown St. Louis, go to all the games, party at ballpark village, have tons of fun rooting for the club with other like minded people in baseball heaven and be loyal to what provides it. Some of us who have are living the best way any baseball fan can.
The least you can probably do is not bash on the club
“Loyal to what provides it?”
DO NOT QUESTION DEAR LEADER!!!
Don't try to frame that as some kind of a cult thing. That's ridiculous! The Cardinals support the community and their fans just as much (if not more) than they get in return. Busch Stadium and the surrounding facilities is my favorite place on earth and I have been to just about all the places worth going to. Nothing wrong with tipping the cap to the people who built it and run it. THEY DO IT FOR US! The least we can do is appreciate it, support it and be loyal to the folks that provide it.
It's one of the big problems with society, you spoiled rotten entitled brats are never happy and too cool to acknowledge anything, even when it is what you want and ask for. Don't do that, say thanks and have fun, try to get along and support the community. You're completely illogical.
You are an idiot plainly and simply.
“THEY DO IT FOR US!”
Yes the fact that their $100 million investment is now worth 2.5 BILLION certainly proves that ownership is only “in it for the fans.”
What a dolt!
That doesn't even beat the S&P 500, it was $150 they bought the team for.
Cranny wrote: ↑29 May 2025 11:36 am
So it's not worth going to watch a team that's 32-24 so far?
90 percent of the fan base lives far from STL. Me- 800 miles. What are we supposed to do to show fan support in your estimation.
Move to downtown St. Louis, go to all the games, party at ballpark village, have tons of fun rooting for the club with other like minded people in baseball heaven and be loyal to what provides it. Some of us who have are living the best way any baseball fan can.
The least you can probably do is not bash on the club
“Loyal to what provides it?”
DO NOT QUESTION DEAR LEADER!!!
Don't try to frame that as some kind of a cult thing. That's ridiculous! The Cardinals support the community and their fans just as much (if not more) than they get in return. Busch Stadium and the surrounding facilities is my favorite place on earth and I have been to just about all the places worth going to. Nothing wrong with tipping the cap to the people who built it and run it. THEY DO IT FOR US! The least we can do is appreciate it, support it and be loyal to the folks that provide it.
It's one of the big problems with society, you spoiled rotten entitled brats are never happy and too cool to acknowledge anything, even when it is what you want and ask for. Don't do that, say thanks and have fun, try to get along and support the community. You're completely illogical.
You are an idiot plainly and simply.
“THEY DO IT FOR US!”
Yes the fact that their $100 million investment is now worth 2.5 BILLION certainly proves that ownership is only “in it for the fans.”
What a dolt!
That doesn't even beat the S&P 500, it was $150 they bought the team for.
Yes they paid $150 million and immediately unloaded the included stadium parking garages for $50 million making their investment in the team $100 million as I said.
Absolut wrote: ↑29 May 2025 10:27 am
This has as much to do with on field performance as asinine, egotistical and out of touch statements made by management and ownership over the past few years.
So, take it out on the players?
So don’t give money to ownership and find other ways to spend money.
If you went to a restaurant and the owner told you the food sucked but you owe it to them to keep coming back, would you because you owed it to the waitress?
Dude, Not sure Waitress is the preferred Nomenclature anymore?
Cranny wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:54 am
Players very much appreciate the support of fans who are in the stands cheering for them. Posters who have played sports at the high school and college level know this. It's one of the reasons why teams play better at home. Hopefully attendance will pick up if the Cardinals continue to play well above .500 baseball.
If this were true the home record would reflect that.
You dont care about the players feelings. You only care about how much money Dewitt is making. It’s not even worth it with you trying to know why at this point but just stop trying to convince us otherwise. The fans have earned every right to hold onto their money and keep it away from the front office and they have earned every right to decide for themselves when to open their wallets again.
This is the second attendance thread in which Cranny pretends to GAS about the players.
He has been on the side of management in every previous thread that had management-player differences ever since I’ve been on this site.
You are absolutely correct, he’s still on management’s side.
It’s a really weird obsession to care about an owners bank account more than caring for the team itself. But that’s just cranny. For whatever reason we will never find out
Cranny wrote: ↑29 May 2025 11:36 am
So it's not worth going to watch a team that's 32-24 so far?
90 percent of the fan base lives far from STL. Me- 800 miles. What are we supposed to do to show fan support in your estimation.
Move to downtown St. Louis, go to all the games, party at ballpark village, have tons of fun rooting for the club with other like minded people in baseball heaven and be loyal to what provides it. Some of us who have are living the best way any baseball fan can.
The least you can probably do is not bash on the club
“Loyal to what provides it?”
DO NOT QUESTION DEAR LEADER!!!
Don't try to frame that as some kind of a cult thing. That's ridiculous! The Cardinals support the community and their fans just as much (if not more) than they get in return. Busch Stadium and the surrounding facilities is my favorite place on earth and I have been to just about all the places worth going to. Nothing wrong with tipping the cap to the people who built it and run it. THEY DO IT FOR US! The least we can do is appreciate it, support it and be loyal to the folks that provide it.
It's one of the big problems with society, you spoiled rotten entitled brats are never happy and too cool to acknowledge anything, even when it is what you want and ask for. Don't do that, say thanks and have fun, try to get along and support the community. You're completely illogical.
You are an idiot plainly and simply.
“THEY DO IT FOR US!”
Yes the fact that their $100 million investment is now worth 2.5 BILLION certainly proves that ownership is only “in it for the fans.”
What a dolt!
That doesn't even beat the S&P 500, it was $150 they bought the team for.
Yes they paid $150 million and immediately unloaded the included stadium parking garages for $50 million making their investment in the team $100 million as I said.
And you are still an obnoxious dolt.
First, you didn't say anything you are posting. See how fast and how much these guys can make with that kind of loot? How much more could they have made if they didn't invest in a baseball team. You think guys like Steve Cohen buy the Mets to make less than 10% a year?
I don't know what I don't even know, but I'm fairly certain if this team ever sold, they would only sell it to a buyer that is committed to loving Cards baseball, dedicated to the fans and this city. Just like when it was last sold. And they only get that huge payday if they sell, Mr. DeWitt might actually lose a huge amount of money if he never cashes out and leaves it to the next generation.
Cranny wrote: ↑29 May 2025 11:36 am
So it's not worth going to watch a team that's 32-24 so far?
90 percent of the fan base lives far from STL. Me- 800 miles. What are we supposed to do to show fan support in your estimation.
Move to downtown St. Louis, go to all the games, party at ballpark village, have tons of fun rooting for the club with other like minded people in baseball heaven and be loyal to what provides it. Some of us who have are living the best way any baseball fan can.
The least you can probably do is not bash on the club
“Loyal to what provides it?”
DO NOT QUESTION DEAR LEADER!!!
Don't try to frame that as some kind of a cult thing. That's ridiculous! The Cardinals support the community and their fans just as much (if not more) than they get in return. Busch Stadium and the surrounding facilities is my favorite place on earth and I have been to just about all the places worth going to. Nothing wrong with tipping the cap to the people who built it and run it. THEY DO IT FOR US! The least we can do is appreciate it, support it and be loyal to the folks that provide it.
It's one of the big problems with society, you spoiled rotten entitled brats are never happy and too cool to acknowledge anything, even when it is what you want and ask for. Don't do that, say thanks and have fun, try to get along and support the community. You're completely illogical.
You are an idiot plainly and simply.
“THEY DO IT FOR US!”
Yes the fact that their $100 million investment is now worth 2.5 BILLION certainly proves that ownership is only “in it for the fans.”
What a dolt!
That doesn't even beat the S&P 500, it was $150 they bought the team for.
Yes they paid $150 million and immediately unloaded the included stadium parking garages for $50 million making their investment in the team $100 million as I said.
And you are still an obnoxious dolt.
First, you didn't say anything you are posting. See how fast and how much these guys can make with that kind of loot? How much more could they have made if they didn't invest in a baseball team. You think guys like Steve Cohen buy the Mets to make less than 10% a year?
I don't know what I don't even know, but I'm fairly certain if this team ever sold, they would only sell it to a buyer that is committed to loving Cards baseball, dedicated to the fans and this city. Just like when it was last sold. And they only get that huge payday if they sell, Mr. DeWitt might actually lose a huge amount of money if he never cashes out and leaves it to the next generation.
Don’t be obtuse. If they sell, they’ll sell to the highest bidder, whether that’s Andy Taylor or Mark Cuban or Stan Kroenke.
Cranny wrote: ↑29 May 2025 11:36 am
So it's not worth going to watch a team that's 32-24 so far?
90 percent of the fan base lives far from STL. Me- 800 miles. What are we supposed to do to show fan support in your estimation.
I thought you lived in Sikeston, dawg. If you live that far away, then disregard my post please.
Nope. About 800 to STL.
Never mind, then. It’s the local people in St. Louis I don’t get who are so filled with hate they refuse to support a hard working winning team.
They. Don't. Want. To. Support. The. Owner.
Why is this so confusing?
It’s childish. The owner has given the fans one of the best runs in Cardinals history.
Cranny, you are both right and wrong. For the last several years, I have attended 6-8 games a year. I also purchased the annual Fan Dual package this year to support the team. When the Dewitt's gave their year end press conference last October and pointed at the fans for not supporting the team when the Cards were still 6-7th in overall attendance, I was a bit upset with the owner's because I thought their comment was childish. When it came to some day games earlier this year, games I have went to in the past, I chose not to go because they comments stuck in my gut. In any case, this team is fun to watch and I will go to some games. But the owners should be a whole lot more careful in the future before making comments like that.
I was a season ticket holder 1993-1994. Baseball went on strike and I didn't watch 1 baseball game from 1995-1997. Since the Rams left town, I have watched 0 NFL games either live or on TV. I can find other things to do when I am treated badly.
Cranny wrote: ↑29 May 2025 11:36 am
So it's not worth going to watch a team that's 32-24 so far?
90 percent of the fan base lives far from STL. Me- 800 miles. What are we supposed to do to show fan support in your estimation.
Move to downtown St. Louis, go to all the games, party at ballpark village, have tons of fun rooting for the club with other like minded people in baseball heaven and be loyal to what provides it. Some of us who have are living the best way any baseball fan can.
The least you can probably do is not bash on the club
“Loyal to what provides it?”
DO NOT QUESTION DEAR LEADER!!!
Don't try to frame that as some kind of a cult thing. That's ridiculous! The Cardinals support the community and their fans just as much (if not more) than they get in return. Busch Stadium and the surrounding facilities is my favorite place on earth and I have been to just about all the places worth going to. Nothing wrong with tipping the cap to the people who built it and run it. THEY DO IT FOR US! The least we can do is appreciate it, support it and be loyal to the folks that provide it.
It's one of the big problems with society, you spoiled rotten entitled brats are never happy and too cool to acknowledge anything, even when it is what you want and ask for. Don't do that, say thanks and have fun, try to get along and support the community. You're completely illogical.
You should not leave your lemonade stand unattended. That would be completely illogical, Trike.
Come on, even you weak sauce Lil Trolls who try to be cute in spreading nonsense can do better. Normally I wouldn't respond to such bad trolling but yours is so bad it needs an "observation"! At least be funny or make one decent point. Aren't you worried the other haters will just point and laugh at you for lowering the bar in Haterville?
D-
With every one of these juvenile posts, you make the case for a Kiddie Cards Talk forum. Just picture a forum where you can talk Cardinal baseball… and exchange lemonade stand trade secrets.
HERE IT IS! THIS IS IT FOLKS! See how this elite snob likes to talk down to lemonade selling workers? I love the people that walk around the park selling lemonade, the people that work those stands around the ballpark serving drinks to fans at their stands and carts. Who the F are you to insult those hard working decent people doing an honest job, what makes them so much beneath your royal highness?
When you insult one of those workers and their boyfriend escalates it, they're the bad guys and are dangerous downtown people, right? Nah, your the trouble who probably gets away with it and wrecks things. Say thank you, leave a little extra and don't be such an arrogant jerk snob. YOU SUCK!
Now listen here Trike. You need to compose yourself. I know you are getting your 12 year old @$$ handed to you on this forum every day. However, you need to control that temper. Nobody likes an angry 12 year serving up lemonade in the neighborhood.
Cranny wrote: ↑29 May 2025 11:36 am
So it's not worth going to watch a team that's 32-24 so far?
Many negative arguments are removed when looking the real record and the biggest one is they do not win and they do nothing. Despite the pro and con arguments, the Cardinals had a 71-90 record in 2024 and the last one before that was 2007 then 1999 and 1997. Spin it how you like, but that indicates winning consistency to me. Since 2000 1st or second 20 times and 3rd -4times. Last place - 1990. Finally, I am sad because they did the WS every year, but to me the excitement that winning in summer brings, helps the overall atmosphere of the metro.
Cranny wrote: ↑29 May 2025 11:36 am
So it's not worth going to watch a team that's 32-24 so far?
Many negative arguments are removed when looking the real record and the biggest one is they do not win and they do nothing. Despite the pro and con arguments, the Cardinals had a 71-90 record in 2024 and the last one before that was 2007 then 1999 and 1997. Spin it how you like, but that indicates winning consistency to me. Since 2000 1st or second 20 times and 3rd -4times. Last place - 1990. Finally, I am sad because they did the WS every year, but to me the excitement that winning in summer brings, helps the overall atmosphere of the metro.
As compared to many on here, I don’t need a WS every year to enjoy watching the Cardinals. Just a competitive team that wins more than they lose.
With a good blend of veterans and young guys who are developing well. Like this season.
Cranny wrote: ↑29 May 2025 11:36 am
So it's not worth going to watch a team that's 32-24 so far?
Many negative arguments are removed when looking the real record and the biggest one is they do not win and they do nothing. Despite the pro and con arguments, the Cardinals had a 71-90 record in 2024 and the last one before that was 2007 then 1999 and 1997. Spin it how you like, but that indicates winning consistency to me. Since 2000 1st or second 20 times and 3rd -4times. Last place - 1990. Finally, I am sad because they did the WS every year, but to me the excitement that winning in summer brings, helps the overall atmosphere of the metro.
As compared to many on here, I don’t need a WS every year to enjoy watching the Cardinals. Just a competitive team that wins more than they lose.
With a good blend of veterans and young guys who are developing well. Like this season.
Cranny wrote: ↑29 May 2025 11:36 am
So it's not worth going to watch a team that's 32-24 so far?
Many negative arguments are removed when looking the real record and the biggest one is they do not win and they do nothing. Despite the pro and con arguments, the Cardinals had a 71-90 record in 2024 and the last one before that was 2007 then 1999 and 1997. Spin it how you like, but that indicates winning consistency to me. Since 2000 1st or second 20 times and 3rd -4times. Last place - 1990. Finally, I am sad because they did the WS every year, but to me the excitement that winning in summer brings, helps the overall atmosphere of the metro.
As compared to many on here, I don’t need a WS every year to enjoy watching the Cardinals. Just a competitive team that wins more than they lose.
With a good blend of veterans and young guys who are developing well. Like this season.
82-80 is not competitive.
"You know, in some places 'winning' is just a winning record, or even .500 is acceptable. Players have a nice season and go home, and get back to their families and so forth. But not in this city. Not with this franchise. Not with this history. And not with our great fans."
Cranny wrote: ↑29 May 2025 11:36 am
So it's not worth going to watch a team that's 32-24 so far?
Many negative arguments are removed when looking the real record and the biggest one is they do not win and they do nothing. Despite the pro and con arguments, the Cardinals had a 71-90 record in 2024 and the last one before that was 2007 then 1999 and 1997. Spin it how you like, but that indicates winning consistency to me. Since 2000 1st or second 20 times and 3rd -4times. Last place - 1990. Finally, I am sad because they did the WS every year, but to me the excitement that winning in summer brings, helps the overall atmosphere of the metro.
As compared to many on here, I don’t need a WS every year to enjoy watching the Cardinals. Just a competitive team that wins more than they lose.
With a good blend of veterans and young guys who are developing well. Like this season.
82-80 is not competitive.
"You know, in some places 'winning' is just a winning record, or even .500 is acceptable. Players have a nice season and go home, and get back to their families and so forth. But not in this city. Not with this franchise. Not with this history. And not with our great fans."
--Bill DeWitt, Jr. (2018)
Bill DeWitt wants to win as much as anyone. Sometimes it just doesn’t work out. Who knew that Goldy, Arenado, Gorman, and Walker would all go backward at the same time. while all the new pitchers secured at the end of July the prior year would go on the IL?
