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Do you know he's not? It takes two to deal. The O's knew they needed pitching all winter and settled for Charlie Morton. I'm starting to think they either don't recognize the size of their pitching hole or have an inflated view of their players' value.C. Bloom should be calling the O's.
And Morton's reportedly headed to the pen'!jcgmoi wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 09:42 amDo you know he's not? It takes two to deal. The O's knew they needed pitching all winter and settled for Charlie Morton. I'm starting to think they either don't recognize the size of their pitching hole or have an inflated view of their players' value.C. Bloom should be calling the O's.
Disagree. And yes I've watched the Red Sox and the Yankees play, and they aren't likely to let the O's back into contention. Do we really think Gray would have pitched better at Fenway then our other pitchers did after giving up 5 ER to the Angels? Well enough to make the O's a winner there? I don't.Youboughtit wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 00:52 amBecause of SP and their top 5 are on IL and 4 will be back. Add Gray and they are a contender. Do you watch baseball?Carp4Cy wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025 23:24 pmThe Orioles are in last placeYouboughtit wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025 22:25 pmHe would go to a legit contender.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025 19:30 pmAt age 26 Is Kjerst really better than Nootbaar?Youboughtit wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 15:09 pmGray and Helsley for Mayo or Kjerstd could happenCarp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 13:28 pmWe aren’t getting a gunner Henderson or even a young Soto by trading pending free agents. That’s not how it works anymore. We either have to spend in free agency or trade for someone for with a contract that’s larger than their team wants to afford to get that superstar.Youboughtit wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 13:21 pmSpending will NOT happen. Helsley will not be re signed. This is not a WS contender. They have no superstars. They need to find a way to trade assets for a future superstar to build the role players around. Plenty of role players to choose from. They need a cornerstoneCarp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 13:15 pmI don’t disagree. I just don’t think trading a badly needed pitcher Will a. Get us that guy, b. Make us enough better to move the needle.Youboughtit wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 21:57 pmI disagree on the hot big. They get a lot of baserunners but it doesn’t translate to runs often enough. They need thunder in the MOTO. I like the team offense except corner OF or Corner IF power is lacking. They need a 30-40Hr 100RBI guyCarp4Cy wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 21:19 pmthey've already shown they have the talent to hit big, pitch well and win at home. Sometimes the process of putting it altogether happens during a season, or when a manager is suddenly replaced...Carp4Cy wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 21:08 pmIf we suddenly start playing .500 on the road from May to July, then this becomes a playoff team, and maybe we need Helsley and Fedde in Oct.2ninr wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 19:58 pm
100%. If Fedde and Helsley aren't traded at or before the deadline than FO is stupider than everybody thinks they are. That's pretty stupid. Honestly at that juncture, I think Bloom will be pretty much calling those shots. And I like to believe he's smart. I've read rumors that Bloom pushed for Libby to be a starter. They were going to send him to the bp. Anyone else hear that? Supposedly it was coming from Bernie. Strictly a rumor.
I feel like we probably need Fedde and Helsley in 2026 and beyond plus we need to spend hard cash not talent on a 100 RBI guy. Or at worst trade surplus JAGs like Austin Gomber for a big contract salary relief Arenado type. That’s how we get better.
Trading Helsley or Nado at the deadline for JAG ceiling prospects just because that’s what the iPad says to do isn’t the path back to the playoffs.
We’ve already let Goldschmidt and Lynn and Gibson and Kitridge go, so it’s not like there isn’t dry powder available. But not spending will permanently reduced the budget because it will eventually alienate the season-ticket holders. That would be an unforced error of massive proportions
Also Gray has a NTC and doesn't want to leave. He's going nowhere.