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CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:36 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:27 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:25 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 13:11 pm He might be as successful as any former Cardinal great if he would pursue it. He's baseball smart and was a highly respected leader as a player.

Were you on vacation? I figured you’d be back with a vengeance and a flood of Burly threads!

Your title asks “would he”. Sounds like a hard no based on his own comments.

Could he? Probably so. He might crave attention, he’s not half as funny as he thinks he is, and one of the world’s worst musicians….but he was a smart player who knew the game, great teammate, and had zero quit in him and a good man. He’d make a pretty great pitching coach and maybe manager too.

Some good thoughts. Yes, I spent some birthday time in beautiful Park City, Utah.

Hope you enjoyed and happy belated birthday.

Thank you, Corney. I had a nice time. I did kind of miss Cards Talk though. LOL

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:40 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:36 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:27 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:25 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 13:11 pm He might be as successful as any former Cardinal great if he would pursue it. He's baseball smart and was a highly respected leader as a player.

Were you on vacation? I figured you’d be back with a vengeance and a flood of Burly threads!

Your title asks “would he”. Sounds like a hard no based on his own comments.

Could he? Probably so. He might crave attention, he’s not half as funny as he thinks he is, and one of the world’s worst musicians….but he was a smart player who knew the game, great teammate, and had zero quit in him and a good man. He’d make a pretty great pitching coach and maybe manager too.

Some good thoughts. Yes, I spent some birthday time in beautiful Park City, Utah.

Hope you enjoyed and happy belated birthday.

Thank you, Corney. I had a nice time. I did kind of miss Cards Talk though. LOL

You’re welcome, and welcome back! But don’t go posting more of that Burly smack everyday or we won’t be able to stay friends for long Lol!

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 13:11 pm He might be as successful as any former Cardinal great if he would pursue it. He's baseball smart and was a highly respected leader as a player.

His fellow broadcasters are regularly surprised by the vapidity of many of his comments - and often correct him on air.
Very good pitcher in his prime.
But he is an 8-count crayon box in a 64-box game.

Melville wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:51 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 13:11 pm He might be as successful as any former Cardinal great if he would pursue it. He's baseball smart and was a highly respected leader as a player.

His fellow broadcasters are regularly surprised by the vapidity of many of his comments - and often correct him on air.
Very good pitcher in his prime.
But he is an 8-count crayon box in a 64-box game.

Sounds kind of harsh Melville! But what do I know? I had to look up the definition for vapidity. There you go with those teaching moments again, expanding my vocabulary! Haha!

no. wainwright was the same guy during all those years he was struggling that saod he knew what went wrong andbhe was confident hednhave it fixed durong the next start only for him to be rocked again. i have no confidence in his assessment abilities.

very talented pitcher but i see nothing that makes em think manager. just cuz a player is good doesnt make them a manager.

Melville wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:51 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 13:11 pm He might be as successful as any former Cardinal great if he would pursue it. He's baseball smart and was a highly respected leader as a player.

His fellow broadcasters are regularly surprised by the vapidity of many of his comments - and often correct him on air.
Very good pitcher in his prime.
But he is an 8-count crayon box in a 64-box game.

and during his stretch of years whem he was struggling after the achilles injury, hed always say he wzached film and realized a minor tweal and knew what happened and was confident hed be back to form the mext start- over and over again. i dont trust his assessment abilities. lol

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 13:11 pm He might be as successful as any former Cardinal great if he would pursue it. He's baseball smart and was a highly respected leader as a player.

How about Burly for player manager Shady? Has any player previously made the Hall of Fame this way? I may be wrong, but I think he would go down as the first to enter the Hall as a double entry. Patiently waiting for your thoughts?

Wattage wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 19:07 pm

Melville wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:51 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 13:11 pm He might be as successful as any former Cardinal great if he would pursue it. He's baseball smart and was a highly respected leader as a player.

His fellow broadcasters are regularly surprised by the vapidity of many of his comments - and often correct him on air.
Very good pitcher in his prime.
But he is an 8-count crayon box in a 64-box game.

and during his stretch of years whem he was struggling after the achilles injury, hed always say he wzached film and realized a minor tweal and knew what happened and was confident hed be back to form the mext start- over and over again. i dont trust his assessment abilities. lol

I don't trust his honesty.
He said far too many things about himself over the years that proved to be completely false.
Poor assessment on his part?
Or lack of candor?

zuck698 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 19:58 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 13:11 pm He might be as successful as any former Cardinal great if he would pursue it. He's baseball smart and was a highly respected leader as a player.

How about Burly for player manager Shady? Has any player previously made the Hall of Fame this way? I may be wrong, but I think he would go down as the first to enter the Hall as a double entry. Patiently waiting for your thoughts?

Now you’ve done it…he hadn’t explored that idea yet! If we see hundreds of threads on this, it’s all your fault!

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:56 pm

Melville wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:51 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 13:11 pm He might be as successful as any former Cardinal great if he would pursue it. He's baseball smart and was a highly respected leader as a player.

His fellow broadcasters are regularly surprised by the vapidity of many of his comments - and often correct him on air.
Very good pitcher in his prime.
But he is an 8-count crayon box in a 64-box game.

Sounds kind of harsh Melville! But what do I know? I had to look up the definition for vapidity. There you go with those teaching moments again, expanding my vocabulary! Haha!

she looks up big words in between sandwiches

dugoutrex wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 20:16 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:56 pm

Melville wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:51 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 13:11 pm He might be as successful as any former Cardinal great if he would pursue it. He's baseball smart and was a highly respected leader as a player.

His fellow broadcasters are regularly surprised by the vapidity of many of his comments - and often correct him on air.
Very good pitcher in his prime.
But he is an 8-count crayon box in a 64-box game.

Sounds kind of harsh Melville! But what do I know? I had to look up the definition for vapidity. There you go with those teaching moments again, expanding my vocabulary! Haha!

she looks up big words in between sandwiches

I’ve seen the sandwich reference a few times now but not sure I’m getting it…does it imply Mel is actually a “BBW”? Lol

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:48 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:40 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:36 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:27 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:25 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 13:11 pm He might be as successful as any former Cardinal great if he would pursue it. He's baseball smart and was a highly respected leader as a player.

Were you on vacation? I figured you’d be back with a vengeance and a flood of Burly threads!

Your title asks “would he”. Sounds like a hard no based on his own comments.

Could he? Probably so. He might crave attention, he’s not half as funny as he thinks he is, and one of the world’s worst musicians….but he was a smart player who knew the game, great teammate, and had zero quit in him and a good man. He’d make a pretty great pitching coach and maybe manager too.

Some good thoughts. Yes, I spent some birthday time in beautiful Park City, Utah.

Hope you enjoyed and happy belated birthday.

Thank you, Corney. I had a nice time. I did kind of miss Cards Talk though. LOL

You’re welcome, and welcome back! But don’t go posting more of that Burly smack everyday or we won’t be able to stay friends for long Lol!

So tell me why you don't like Burleson. To me, considering some others, he is an overachiever. Something the Cardinals need more of. Don't you think? Would you rather gloat about Walker and Gorman? If so, go for it.

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 20:29 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:48 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:40 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:36 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:27 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:25 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 13:11 pm He might be as successful as any former Cardinal great if he would pursue it. He's baseball smart and was a highly respected leader as a player.

Were you on vacation? I figured you’d be back with a vengeance and a flood of Burly threads!

Your title asks “would he”. Sounds like a hard no based on his own comments.

Could he? Probably so. He might crave attention, he’s not half as funny as he thinks he is, and one of the world’s worst musicians….but he was a smart player who knew the game, great teammate, and had zero quit in him and a good man. He’d make a pretty great pitching coach and maybe manager too.

Some good thoughts. Yes, I spent some birthday time in beautiful Park City, Utah.

Hope you enjoyed and happy belated birthday.

Thank you, Corney. I had a nice time. I did kind of miss Cards Talk though. LOL

You’re welcome, and welcome back! But don’t go posting more of that Burly smack everyday or we won’t be able to stay friends for long Lol!

So tell me why you don't like Burleson. To me, considering some others, he is an overachiever. Something the Cardinals need more of. Don't you think?

I wouldn’t say he’s an overachiever, just a 1 1/2 tool player who is what he is. He can hit for average with some pop and doesn’t embarrass himself at 1B. Don’t like him in the OF at all.

I also wouldn’t say I don’t like him, I just think he’s over-hyped in a weird kind of way. Good bench guy worth keeping though. I wouldn’t miss him either if they traded him for a good BP arm or maybe better, a similarly productive RH hitting OFer.

Edited for your additional comment: I never once “gloated” about Gorman or Walker?? I used to say Walker deserved the kind of long runway they gave Burleson his first few years when he was terrible.

Walker did get some more opportunities though this year and squandered them. Burleson was pretty bad too though his first few years and they kept running him out there and he finally improved.

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 20:24 pm

dugoutrex wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 20:16 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:56 pm

Melville wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:51 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 13:11 pm He might be as successful as any former Cardinal great if he would pursue it. He's baseball smart and was a highly respected leader as a player.

His fellow broadcasters are regularly surprised by the vapidity of many of his comments - and often correct him on air.
Very good pitcher in his prime.
But he is an 8-count crayon box in a 64-box game.

Sounds kind of harsh Melville! But what do I know? I had to look up the definition for vapidity. There you go with those teaching moments again, expanding my vocabulary! Haha!

she looks up big words in between sandwiches

I’ve seen the sandwich reference a few times now but not sure I’m getting it…does it imply Mel is actually a “BBW”? Lol

Mel works at Jimmy Johns - I know her!

dugoutrex wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 20:50 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 20:24 pm

dugoutrex wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 20:16 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:56 pm

Melville wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 18:51 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 13:11 pm He might be as successful as any former Cardinal great if he would pursue it. He's baseball smart and was a highly respected leader as a player.

His fellow broadcasters are regularly surprised by the vapidity of many of his comments - and often correct him on air.
Very good pitcher in his prime.
But he is an 8-count crayon box in a 64-box game.

Sounds kind of harsh Melville! But what do I know? I had to look up the definition for vapidity. There you go with those teaching moments again, expanding my vocabulary! Haha!

she looks up big words in between sandwiches

I’ve seen the sandwich reference a few times now but not sure I’m getting it…does it imply Mel is actually a “BBW”? Lol

Mel works at Jimmy Johns - I know her!

Ahh OK, guess I’m learning a few things today

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 20:15 pm

zuck698 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 19:58 pm

Shady wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 13:11 pm He might be as successful as any former Cardinal great if he would pursue it. He's baseball smart and was a highly respected leader as a player.

How about Burly for player manager Shady? Has any player previously made the Hall of Fame this way? I may be wrong, but I think he would go down as the first to enter the Hall as a double entry. Patiently waiting for your thoughts?

Now you’ve done it…he hadn’t explored that idea yet! If we see hundreds of threads on this, it’s all your fault!

CorneliusWolfe, I apologize in advance! LOL. I was just considering all available options in trying to utilize Burly's unique skill sets. I thought maybe him being the manager would add to his current 5 tools playing acumen.