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ramfandan wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 09:58 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 09:34 am What happens when they disagree? In game, spring training , roster, etc.

So let’s leave it alone; cause we can’t see eye to eye. There ain’t no good guys; there ain’t no bad guys; there’s just you and me, and we just disagree.

What I see.

Your reference to the lyrics of ‘We just Disagree. somg brought a smile to my face, Sikeston Bulldog! That song was written by Jim Krueger, a guitarist in Dave Mason band. Jim Krueger went to my HS and graduated in 1967 one year after I did..Lincoln HS Manitowoc Wis. Thanks for the mention ! Great song! Jim nailed that one fir Dave Mason

Exactly my intent. So glad it brought that moment to you. Small world.

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 09:21 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 08:47 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 08:41 am

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 08:16 am Manager in waiting? Like a Moe to Bloom hand off?

^^^THIS^^^

Would be the ONLY reason Yadi would consider caddying for a Manager w/a much lower baseball IQ than Yadi.

No way he takes this job w/o some assurances from C. Bloom that he's at least a very serious candidate to replace Oli in 2027.

Plus he'd be there daily to work w/I. Hererra.

I'll believe it when it happens.

JMO

Well Yadier could be looking at it this way too. I don't need any assurance as it's a win-win for me. Either after 2026, I get the Cardinals managerial job OR if Oli remains I will get manager job offers from others as now I have a full year as coach in the MLB . I can't lose either scenario.

My opinion this is what is happening. It’s a win win for scenario for Molina but probably lose lose for oli if the cardinals surprise people and are better than expected Molina will get credit for it and if they suck again oli will get the blame

LoL. Oli gets blamed for the reviews of close plays. Hell, I think CT blames him for rain and humidity
He can never win with CT
Coaches seem to get free pases because CT doesn't understand rolls of coaches vs manager

What exactly would Yadi be coach of???

ecleme22 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 10:08 am

45s wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 09:24 am two points

there is already a hot controversy about the skills and talent of the current manager....

so....they bring in a guy...who is already popular with some....to look over his shoulder......talk about tossing some gas on the fire

the other day the question on the board was whether bloom would be effective....

I made the point that my question was whether he had autonomy on all baseball decisions.......or would he still be subject to the whims of the marketing and ticket office

well....here is the answer.....this has ticket office written all over it

You’re the same guy who claimed McGee being named the bench coach was all about ticket sales.

Your assertions are weak.

Opinions vary…..you are entitled to your own..

I seldom agree with Mel…..but his thought that the club is a marketing company with a baseball department is seeming more and more accurate…

I have now exhausted my interest in this subject….

If this comes to fruition...terrible idea.

If we are limiting ourselves to former Cardinals (why does stl only focus on internal/former player options) I'd rather have Pujols. Whatever the fck Marmol is being paid is a rounding error in the grand scheme of things & shouldn't be a major factor in this decision process.

You guys think maybe Dirty Dan is heading to Texas to be a coach for Schumaker?

Then, they would move Yadi into his spot?

I like Daniel D and would hate to see him or Jay go.

Life long fan here... if 2027 is likely to be wiped out by the lockout, and we get more of the same like the 2025 season ?rebuild?, I'd prefer to let Oli finish up, say thank you, and prep for 2028.

- Hawkgirl

Hawkgirll70 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 10:49 am You guys think maybe Dirty Dan is heading to Texas to be a coach for Schumaker?

Then, they would move Yadi into his spot?

I like Daniel D and would hate to see him or Jay go.

Life long fan here... if 2027 is likely to be wiped out by the lockout, and we get more of the same like the 2025 season ?rebuild?, I'd prefer to let Oli finish up, say thank you, and prep for 2028.

- Hawkgirl

So take a lateral move from Cards to Texas?

Good riddance then

Oli got a 3 year extension to feel no pressure to win, so maybe Bloom is now giving him the opposite treatment. If so, Bloom definitely scores some brownie points with me. The guy should have been fired over a year ago but tight wad Bill wasn't going to eat the rest of that little ole salary.

The Yadi worship is over the top among Cardinal nation

He basically quit on the Cardinals his last year and then didn’t show up for spring training to help out catchers, he never groomed his replacements

Let Yadi cut his teeth managing in minors if he is serious

3dender wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 08:28 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 08:19 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 08:14 am According to reports, Molina is now in talks to join the Cardinals as a full-time coach for the 2026 season.

In a story published on el Vocero, a publication out of Puerto Rico, Molina could rejoin the team next season as a member of Marmol's coaching staff. "Right now, we're in contact with St. Louis to coach the Cardinals and help Mármol. He's still the manager, but I'd be there by his side. Nothing is concrete yet, but we're working on it," Molina told EL VOCERO , without specifying the exact role he would play.


Attached is link of full story ....
https://redbirdrants.com/cardinals-lege ... as-a-coach

“ to help Marmol. He’s still the manager, but I’d be there by his side.”

What?

lol yeah that is a hilariously weird thing to say.

#1 you're stating he needs help, and #2 the clarification that he's still the manager is as conspicuous as Nixon telling us he's not a crook.

That said I'd be all for it

and he certainly DOES.

ramfandan wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 08:14 am According to reports, Molina is now in talks to join the Cardinals as a full-time coach for the 2026 season.

In a story published on el Vocero, a publication out of Puerto Rico, Molina could rejoin the team next season as a member of Marmol's coaching staff. "Right now, we're in contact with St. Louis to coach the Cardinals and help Mármol. He's still the manager, but I'd be there by his side. Nothing is concrete yet, but we're working on it," Molina told EL VOCERO , without specifying the exact role he would play.


Attached is link of full story ....
https://redbirdrants.com/cardinals-lege ... as-a-coach

It would be nice to have Molina's fire and knowledge in the dugout. Let's hope it happens.

Bloom’s decisions are like an ink blot test. Ppl read into it what they want.

Retains Oli: “oh well I guess nothing is going to change! Different POBO same result!”

Considers adding Yadi: “oh I see now. Bloom is just doing this to sell tickets!”

If an agreement is made, hope is a legitimate one and not the usual "Publicity" move

ramfandan wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 08:14 am According to reports, Molina is now in talks to join the Cardinals as a full-time coach for the 2026 season.

In a story published on el Vocero, a publication out of Puerto Rico, Molina could rejoin the team next season as a member of Marmol's coaching staff. "Right now, we're in contact with St. Louis to coach the Cardinals and help Mármol. He's still the manager, but I'd be there by his side. Nothing is concrete yet, but we're working on it," Molina told EL VOCERO , without specifying the exact role he would play.


Attached is link of full story ....
https://redbirdrants.com/cardinals-lege ... as-a-coach

Message to Oli - Never hire your replacement.

The STL Cardinals are part of a billion dollar industry. In THEORY they are owned, led, and managed by competent MLB professionals.

Yet the Cardinal brain trust:

1. Extends the Marmot so he does not get butt hurt when he fails. As if the clod will run to other MLB teams and bad mouth the Cardinal organization.

2. Lets the MO Ran run the 2025 team cus supposedly he has inside knowledge to fix the FUBAR he created. Of course was failure.

3. NOW, possibly bringing on YM “ to help Marmol. He’s still the manager, but I’d be there by his side.”

In short, supposedly competent adults cannot: Move the MO RAN, the architect of their failure, to supreme janitor of the stadium and let actual MLB decisions take place a year earlier. Nor can they fire a fake manager but (possibly) want to bring in a Cardinal icon to do what exactly??

People who make 6-7 figures in salary a year and cannot fire incompetent people are themselves a product of the Peter Principle.

KeeptheRamsinSTL wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 11:32 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 08:14 am According to reports, Molina is now in talks to join the Cardinals as a full-time coach for the 2026 season.

In a story published on el Vocero, a publication out of Puerto Rico, Molina could rejoin the team next season as a member of Marmol's coaching staff. "Right now, we're in contact with St. Louis to coach the Cardinals and help Mármol. He's still the manager, but I'd be there by his side. Nothing is concrete yet, but we're working on it," Molina told EL VOCERO , without specifying the exact role he would play.


Attached is link of full story ....
https://redbirdrants.com/cardinals-lege ... as-a-coach

Message to Oli - Never hire your replacement.

Is this the classic saying- keep your friends close; and your enemies closer.

Melville wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 09:04 am

OldRed wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 08:26 am It would be a good move if they are planning to move Herrera back to catching.

Why?
Molina's record with helping young catchers is abysmal.

I agree that Molina didn't help young catchers when he played. I think things would be different now that he would be their coach.