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Re: Herrera seems overated, Burleson's improved batting eye

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 10:44 am
by RamFan08NY
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 05 Aug 2025 07:15 am
2ninr wrote: 05 Aug 2025 05:36 am The only difference in these two players is one is lh one is rh. And Herrera is a couple ticks better. I like them both if there's other guys around to drive them in. Neither are mob at this point in their career.
Herrera hits second I don’t know why people always point out he’s not a middle of the order bat when he bats second but for a team with no middle of the order bats he could certainly do it he’s hitting .392 .476 1.104 with RISP and .297 .376 .861 with runners on I would take that from a middle of the order bat any day and while he doesn’t hit a lot of home runs which Mel loves to point out he has more home runs than the unikkorn
I agree. I hate IH hitting 2nd. While hes hot the bat for 2, he isn't your typical #2 hitter. I'd much rather see him in the 5 hole. I just think he'd get more rbi opportunities.

Re: Herrera seems overated, Burleson's improved batting eye

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 10:46 am
by blackinkbiz
He has hit himself back into looking like a MOT bat the last few games. If you extrapolate his season to 540 abs he's on pace for 25HR 100RBI and he just turned 25.

He's def looking like a diamond in the rough type hitter. If he can maintain or improve this pace, Cards have struck gold.

Need more mining metaphors.

Re: Herrera seems overated, Burleson's improved batting eye

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 11:05 am
by rockondlouie
bccardsfan wrote: 05 Aug 2025 09:19 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 Aug 2025 08:57 am
GuitarManBluesFan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:36 pm It does look like MLB pitchers might be catching up to him. He doesn’t seem to be as effective as he was earlier this season. Just a casual observation, didn’t go dig through a bunch of stats or anything, so maybe I’m wrong…
I'll do it for you GMBF

Last 50 PA
.339 .428 .519 .947

Pitchers aren't catching up to him, he's still a stud hitter. :wink:
IH had a little cold streak and has heated up again. He and Donovan are the best bats on the team along with WC. Bumbles has enough ABs in the bigs that we can see who he is. A serviceable platoon player who is best suited to DH and 1B. Ride him when he is on a hot streak and put him back in the part time role when he cools off. Not that hard to see. IH plays every day somewhere....
Bingo bcc

I think Burly will be a piece this winter in any big deals C. Bloom makes.

Re: Herrera seems overated, Burleson's improved batting eye

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 12:00 pm
by Shady
rockondlouie wrote: 05 Aug 2025 11:05 am
bccardsfan wrote: 05 Aug 2025 09:19 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 Aug 2025 08:57 am
GuitarManBluesFan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:36 pm It does look like MLB pitchers might be catching up to him. He doesn’t seem to be as effective as he was earlier this season. Just a casual observation, didn’t go dig through a bunch of stats or anything, so maybe I’m wrong…
I'll do it for you GMBF

Last 50 PA
.339 .428 .519 .947

Pitchers aren't catching up to him, he's still a stud hitter. :wink:
IH had a little cold streak and has heated up again. He and Donovan are the best bats on the team along with WC. Bumbles has enough ABs in the bigs that we can see who he is. A serviceable platoon player who is best suited to DH and 1B. Ride him when he is on a hot streak and put him back in the part time role when he cools off. Not that hard to see. IH plays every day somewhere....
Bingo bcc

I think Burly will be a piece this winter in any big deals C. Bloom makes.
If traded this off-season. It would be fun to see Burly playing for the Cubs through his prime years. He'd do quite well playing many games at Wrigley. Maybe at least one All Star selection.

Re: Herrera seems overated, Burleson's improved batting eye

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 12:13 pm
by RunSup
blackinkbiz wrote: 05 Aug 2025 10:46 am He has hit himself back into looking like a MOT bat the last few games. If you extrapolate his season to 540 abs he's on pace for 25HR 100RBI and he just turned 25.

He's def looking like a diamond in the rough type hitter. If he can maintain or improve this pace, Cards have struck gold.

Need more mining metaphors.
They may have hit the mother lode with Herrera
It looks like he is going to pan out
He was buried treasure in the minors last year
Definitely not fools gold
...
His bat is forged in fire
He has iron resolve at the plate
He's one of their strongest links in the lineup chain


Ok I'm tapping out. Next?

Re: Herrera seems overated, Burleson's improved batting eye

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 12:45 pm
by MIDMOBIRDTWO
Herrera is a fine hitter, Burly is just ok sometimes. If he is the best we can do trouble looms.

Re: Herrera seems overated, Burleson's improved batting eye

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 12:51 pm
by Ozziesfan41
RunSup wrote: 05 Aug 2025 12:13 pm
blackinkbiz wrote: 05 Aug 2025 10:46 am He has hit himself back into looking like a MOT bat the last few games. If you extrapolate his season to 540 abs he's on pace for 25HR 100RBI and he just turned 25.

He's def looking like a diamond in the rough type hitter. If he can maintain or improve this pace, Cards have struck gold.

Need more mining metaphors.
They may have hit the mother lode with Herrera
It looks like he is going to pan out
He was buried treasure in the minors last year
Definitely not fools gold
...
His bat is forged in fire
He has iron resolve at the plate
He's one of their strongest links in the lineup chain


Ok I'm tapping out. Next?
He’s the best hitter on the team for sure the other hitters go into extended slumps where they are virtually useless he may go into short slumps but then heats back up quickly that’s why he’s kept his average above .300 and OPS over .850 all season

Re: Herrera seems overated, Burleson's improved batting eye

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 13:41 pm
by Absolut
Shady wrote: 05 Aug 2025 12:00 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 05 Aug 2025 11:05 am
bccardsfan wrote: 05 Aug 2025 09:19 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 Aug 2025 08:57 am
GuitarManBluesFan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:36 pm It does look like MLB pitchers might be catching up to him. He doesn’t seem to be as effective as he was earlier this season. Just a casual observation, didn’t go dig through a bunch of stats or anything, so maybe I’m wrong…
I'll do it for you GMBF

Last 50 PA
.339 .428 .519 .947

Pitchers aren't catching up to him, he's still a stud hitter. :wink:
IH had a little cold streak and has heated up again. He and Donovan are the best bats on the team along with WC. Bumbles has enough ABs in the bigs that we can see who he is. A serviceable platoon player who is best suited to DH and 1B. Ride him when he is on a hot streak and put him back in the part time role when he cools off. Not that hard to see. IH plays every day somewhere....
Bingo bcc

I think Burly will be a piece this winter in any big deals C. Bloom makes.
If traded this off-season. It would be fun to see Burly playing for the Cubs through his prime years. He'd do quite well playing many games at Wrigley. Maybe at least one All Star selection.
I’ll send you a cubs hat

Re: Herrera seems overated, Burleson's improved batting eye

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 13:59 pm
by Ozziesfan41
Absolut wrote: 05 Aug 2025 13:41 pm
Shady wrote: 05 Aug 2025 12:00 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 05 Aug 2025 11:05 am
bccardsfan wrote: 05 Aug 2025 09:19 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 Aug 2025 08:57 am
GuitarManBluesFan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:36 pm It does look like MLB pitchers might be catching up to him. He doesn’t seem to be as effective as he was earlier this season. Just a casual observation, didn’t go dig through a bunch of stats or anything, so maybe I’m wrong…
I'll do it for you GMBF

Last 50 PA
.339 .428 .519 .947

Pitchers aren't catching up to him, he's still a stud hitter. :wink:
IH had a little cold streak and has heated up again. He and Donovan are the best bats on the team along with WC. Bumbles has enough ABs in the bigs that we can see who he is. A serviceable platoon player who is best suited to DH and 1B. Ride him when he is on a hot streak and put him back in the part time role when he cools off. Not that hard to see. IH plays every day somewhere....
Bingo bcc

I think Burly will be a piece this winter in any big deals C. Bloom makes.
If traded this off-season. It would be fun to see Burly playing for the Cubs through his prime years. He'd do quite well playing many games at Wrigley. Maybe at least one All Star selection.
I’ll send you a cubs hat
Lol he can then go to a cubs forum and tell them in thread after thread after thread how awesome he is and how the manager seems to like his bat in the line up

Re: Herrera seems overated, Burleson's improved batting eye

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 14:43 pm
by Shady
Burleson helped keep the offense competitive this season while some other players were underachieving.

Re: Herrera seems overated, Burleson's improved batting eye

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 14:45 pm
by nighthawk
Shady wrote: 05 Aug 2025 14:43 pm Burleson helped keep the offense competitive this season while some other players were underachieving.
Some attention for you.

Re: Herrera seems overated, Burleson's improved batting eye

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 15:19 pm
by Shady
nighthawk wrote: 05 Aug 2025 14:45 pm
Shady wrote: 05 Aug 2025 14:43 pm Burleson helped keep the offense competitive this season while some other players were underachieving.
Some attention for you.
I posted two times today and I'm seeking attention. What about all the other posters that post much more than I do? What are they seeking? Crawl back in your hole.

Re: Herrera seems overated, Burleson's improved batting eye

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 16:41 pm
by Mort Gage
Shady wrote: 05 Aug 2025 12:00 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 05 Aug 2025 11:05 am
bccardsfan wrote: 05 Aug 2025 09:19 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 Aug 2025 08:57 am
GuitarManBluesFan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:36 pm It does look like MLB pitchers might be catching up to him. He doesn’t seem to be as effective as he was earlier this season. Just a casual observation, didn’t go dig through a bunch of stats or anything, so maybe I’m wrong…
I'll do it for you GMBF

Last 50 PA
.339 .428 .519 .947

Pitchers aren't catching up to him, he's still a stud hitter. :wink:
IH had a little cold streak and has heated up again. He and Donovan are the best bats on the team along with WC. Bumbles has enough ABs in the bigs that we can see who he is. A serviceable platoon player who is best suited to DH and 1B. Ride him when he is on a hot streak and put him back in the part time role when he cools off. Not that hard to see. IH plays every day somewhere....
Bingo bcc

I think Burly will be a piece this winter in any big deals C. Bloom makes.
If traded this off-season. It would be fun to see Burly playing for the Cubs through his prime years. He'd do quite well playing many games at Wrigley. Maybe at least one All Star selection.
If Burleson were on a Cubs team like this one he might PH and get a spot start each week.

Re: Herrera seems overated, Burleson's improved batting eye

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 17:06 pm
by DingerKing34
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:29 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:20 pm Points of emphasis. Like to see from Melville on these two observations.
Do you like any player who is actually any good? You must be an underdog story yourself…or a starving for attention goof.
Great question!
Shady, do you follow the entire mlb or just the cardinals?

Would you rather the Cardinals win a World Series with an “underdog” team of scrappy unknown players or a Doninant world Series win where it’s obvious we destroyed the other team?

who in your opinion is the better current player, Gunnar Henderson or Bobby Witt jr ?

Who in your opinion is the better player Jordan Walker or Blaze Jordan?

Re: Herrera seems overated, Burleson's improved batting eye

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 17:11 pm
by Cusecards
I know I often make jokes but this is a very serious post:
I sincerely hope a certain poster gets professional help.
This goes beyond sports.

Re: Herrera seems overated, Burleson's improved batting eye

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 17:20 pm
by DingerKing34
Mort Gage wrote: 05 Aug 2025 16:41 pm
Shady wrote: 05 Aug 2025 12:00 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 05 Aug 2025 11:05 am
bccardsfan wrote: 05 Aug 2025 09:19 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 Aug 2025 08:57 am
GuitarManBluesFan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:36 pm It does look like MLB pitchers might be catching up to him. He doesn’t seem to be as effective as he was earlier this season. Just a casual observation, didn’t go dig through a bunch of stats or anything, so maybe I’m wrong…
I'll do it for you GMBF

Last 50 PA
.339 .428 .519 .947

Pitchers aren't catching up to him, he's still a stud hitter. :wink:
IH had a little cold streak and has heated up again. He and Donovan are the best bats on the team along with WC. Bumbles has enough ABs in the bigs that we can see who he is. A serviceable platoon player who is best suited to DH and 1B. Ride him when he is on a hot streak and put him back in the part time role when he cools off. Not that hard to see. IH plays every day somewhere....
Bingo bcc

I think Burly will be a piece this winter in any big deals C. Bloom makes.
If traded this off-season. It would be fun to see Burly playing for the Cubs through his prime years. He'd do quite well playing many games at Wrigley. Maybe at least one All Star selection.
If Burleson were on a Cubs team like this one he might PH and get a spot start each week.
Alec Burleson and Matt Adams are a really good comp, Alec is 10 years younger, they play the same positions and Alec currently has roughly half as many PA’s as Matt, I would not say Matt Adams was a good ballplayer, he was alright and if it wasn’t for his little playoff success and his HR’s off of prime Clayton Kershaw then I’d say he is almost forgettable, Matt Adams never won any awards and only had 1 full season, and after age 28 he never played in more than 121 games and he did that once!

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