Re: MO to meet with Nado
Posted: 22 Jul 2025 09:30 am
Why would Arenado believe anything Mo has to say?
true.
why would ANYBODY?
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Re: MO to meet with Nado
Posted: 22 Jul 2025 09:31 am
Re: MO to meet with Nado
Posted: 22 Jul 2025 09:31 am
Nobody said not implied that thr Cards would draw from the ‘top end’ of any team’s list. The point about Brewers was that with a good farm system there is more depth of players that could be drawn from. Ex. A 10th to 15th player in a strong system would be a better guy than similar number in a weaker farm system .Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 06:22 amIt doesn't really matter how good the receiving teams' farm system is- we're not drawing from the top end of anyones prospect list if we can trade Arenado at all.ramfandan wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:43 pmNot so sure nobody wants him . If Cardinals pick up substantial amount of salary (which they would obviously need to ) , there could be suitors.
One team that was NOT on his trade list of contending type teams this past offseason was the Milwaukee Brewers. If Suarez doesn't go there , I would not put it past Brewers to make a play for Nado. They seek an upgrade for their 3rd base spot. Nado would be that .
Problem is would Mo trade Nado within the division ? Rarely does that happen .
One attractive thing for MO is that Milwaukee has a very good farm system. Could be something there that Mo/Bloom may want to get if offered
Re: MO to meet with Nado
Posted: 22 Jul 2025 10:22 am
Why wouldn’t Mo just meet with him and then tell us his answer? What’s he gain by telling the media about what he’s going to do?
Re: MO to meet with Nado
Posted: 22 Jul 2025 11:43 am
While NA may seem amendable to waive NTC his AGENT will no doubt counsel the client to agree BUT want $5-$10M to accept the waiver. Pretty standard for high profile veteran players.
For a team trying to save money it again puts them in black hole territory. MO Ran should have stayed a batting practice pitching expert.
For a team trying to save money it again puts them in black hole territory. MO Ran should have stayed a batting practice pitching expert.
Re: MO to meet with Nado
Posted: 22 Jul 2025 14:08 pm
Actually, that is EXACTLY what you say if you are a true leader, because that is precisely what is in the best interest of the team.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:22 amStop. You don’t say that stuff to maybe a future HoF still with an Ace glove.
What you get or give up in Arenado will not be replaced by a hitter with a better average, and certainly no better D.
He will get traded, as a contender who has a great staff but lacks depth nfield defense will see his value to the over arching construction of a team.
STL holds 100% of the leverage and needs only the willingness to use it.
FACT is, N/A needs to e traded far more than STL needs to trade him.
One, he is fading rapidly and is quickly running out of time to have meaningful participation in the post-season.
He could easily be out of baseball at the end of 2027 - and he knows it.
Two, outside of his Gold Glove, N/A does not have a HOF resume.
Sitting on 351 HR. 1907 hits, 1174 RBI, 985 runs.
Obviously, he wants to pad those stats - particularly since HOF voters will apply to Coors penalty.
Bottom line:
'Take the trade or take the bench".
Period.
Very, very easy to trade him (again).
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.
Re: MO to meet with Nado
Posted: 22 Jul 2025 14:28 pm
lol that’s the dumbest thing the cardinals could do and the dumbest thing you could have possibly suggested on how to handle the situationMelville wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 14:08 pmActually, that is EXACTLY what you say if you are a true leader, because that is precisely what is in the best interest of the team.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:22 amStop. You don’t say that stuff to maybe a future HoF still with an Ace glove.
What you get or give up in Arenado will not be replaced by a hitter with a better average, and certainly no better D.
He will get traded, as a contender who has a great staff but lacks depth nfield defense will see his value to the over arching construction of a team.
STL holds 100% of the leverage and needs only the willingness to use it.
FACT is, N/A needs to e traded far more than STL needs to trade him.
One, he is fading rapidly and is quickly running out of time to have meaningful participation in the post-season.
He could easily be out of baseball at the end of 2027 - and he knows it.
Two, outside of his Gold Glove, N/A does not have a HOF resume.
Sitting on 351 HR. 1907 hits, 1174 RBI, 985 runs.
Obviously, he wants to pad those stats - particularly since HOF voters will apply to Coors penalty.
Bottom line:
'Take the trade or take the bench".
Period.
Very, very easy to trade him (again).
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.
Re: MO to meet with Nado
Posted: 22 Jul 2025 14:33 pm
Now wait a minute, we could slide Gorman right into Nado's slot and not miss a beat.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 14:28 pmlol that’s the dumbest thing the cardinals could do and the dumbest thing you could have possibly suggested on how to handle the situationMelville wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 14:08 pmActually, that is EXACTLY what you say if you are a true leader, because that is precisely what is in the best interest of the team.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:22 amStop. You don’t say that stuff to maybe a future HoF still with an Ace glove.
What you get or give up in Arenado will not be replaced by a hitter with a better average, and certainly no better D.
He will get traded, as a contender who has a great staff but lacks depth nfield defense will see his value to the over arching construction of a team.
STL holds 100% of the leverage and needs only the willingness to use it.
FACT is, N/A needs to e traded far more than STL needs to trade him.
One, he is fading rapidly and is quickly running out of time to have meaningful participation in the post-season.
He could easily be out of baseball at the end of 2027 - and he knows it.
Two, outside of his Gold Glove, N/A does not have a HOF resume.
Sitting on 351 HR. 1907 hits, 1174 RBI, 985 runs.
Obviously, he wants to pad those stats - particularly since HOF voters will apply to Coors penalty.
Bottom line:
'Take the trade or take the bench".
Period.
Very, very easy to trade him (again).
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.
Re: MO to meet with Nado
Posted: 22 Jul 2025 14:40 pm
Re: MO to meet with Nado
Posted: 22 Jul 2025 14:42 pm
Re: MO to meet with Nado
Posted: 22 Jul 2025 14:42 pm
The hell you don't. This is business.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:22 amStop. You don’t say that stuff to maybe a future HoF still with an Ace glove.
What you get or give up in Arenado will not be replaced by a hitter with a better average, and certainly no better D.
He will get traded, as a contender who has a great staff but lacks depth nfield defense will see his value to the over arching construction of a team.
Re: MO to meet with Nado
Posted: 22 Jul 2025 14:43 pm
Re: MO to meet with Nado
Posted: 22 Jul 2025 14:48 pm
Veteran players are benched all the time.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 14:28 pmlol that’s the dumbest thing the cardinals could do and the dumbest thing you could have possibly suggested on how to handle the situationMelville wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 14:08 pmActually, that is EXACTLY what you say if you are a true leader, because that is precisely what is in the best interest of the team.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:22 amStop. You don’t say that stuff to maybe a future HoF still with an Ace glove.
What you get or give up in Arenado will not be replaced by a hitter with a better average, and certainly no better D.
He will get traded, as a contender who has a great staff but lacks depth nfield defense will see his value to the over arching construction of a team.
STL holds 100% of the leverage and needs only the willingness to use it.
FACT is, N/A needs to e traded far more than STL needs to trade him.
One, he is fading rapidly and is quickly running out of time to have meaningful participation in the post-season.
He could easily be out of baseball at the end of 2027 - and he knows it.
Two, outside of his Gold Glove, N/A does not have a HOF resume.
Sitting on 351 HR. 1907 hits, 1174 RBI, 985 runs.
Obviously, he wants to pad those stats - particularly since HOF voters will apply to Coors penalty.
Bottom line:
'Take the trade or take the bench".
Period.
Very, very easy to trade him (again).
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.
Heck, the Yankees did it with LeMahieu - who was having about the same level of season as N/A.
When he complained, they released him.
He is guaranteed 15M this season and next.
That is what leadership looks like.
Not hard, really.
STL is in a similar situation with N/A - but they have far more leverage than NY did.
All they lacks is the guts to do the right thing.
Re: MO to meet with Nado
Posted: 22 Jul 2025 14:52 pm
You are referencing a club that has a long history of holding onto players who are well, well past their prime…Melville wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 14:48 pmVeteran players are benched all the time.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 14:28 pmlol that’s the dumbest thing the cardinals could do and the dumbest thing you could have possibly suggested on how to handle the situationMelville wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 14:08 pmActually, that is EXACTLY what you say if you are a true leader, because that is precisely what is in the best interest of the team.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:22 amStop. You don’t say that stuff to maybe a future HoF still with an Ace glove.
What you get or give up in Arenado will not be replaced by a hitter with a better average, and certainly no better D.
He will get traded, as a contender who has a great staff but lacks depth nfield defense will see his value to the over arching construction of a team.
STL holds 100% of the leverage and needs only the willingness to use it.
FACT is, N/A needs to e traded far more than STL needs to trade him.
One, he is fading rapidly and is quickly running out of time to have meaningful participation in the post-season.
He could easily be out of baseball at the end of 2027 - and he knows it.
Two, outside of his Gold Glove, N/A does not have a HOF resume.
Sitting on 351 HR. 1907 hits, 1174 RBI, 985 runs.
Obviously, he wants to pad those stats - particularly since HOF voters will apply to Coors penalty.
Bottom line:
'Take the trade or take the bench".
Period.
Very, very easy to trade him (again).
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.
Heck, the Yankees did it with LeMahieu - who was having about the same level of season as N/A.
When he complained, they released him.
He is guaranteed 15M this season and next.
That is what leadership looks like.
Not hard, really.
STL is in a similar situation with N/A - but they have far more leverage than NY did.
All they lacks is the guts to do the right thing.
They may well be planning the Arenado “farewell tour” already…
Re: MO to meet with Nado
Posted: 22 Jul 2025 15:00 pm
Re: MO to meet with Nado
Posted: 22 Jul 2025 15:01 pm
And you're a stupid P[ositively] O[bnoxious] S[impleton]!...go away sweetie and take your front office (donkey) kissers with you.