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Re: MO to meet with Nado

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Why would Arenado believe anything Mo has to say?
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Re: MO to meet with Nado

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OldRed wrote: 22 Jul 2025 09:30 am Why would Arenado believe anything Mo has to say?
true.
why would ANYBODY?
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Re: MO to meet with Nado

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 22 Jul 2025 06:22 am
ramfandan wrote: 21 Jul 2025 22:43 pm
82birds wrote: 21 Jul 2025 22:32 pm
bfib wrote: 21 Jul 2025 22:26 pm It doesn’t matter because no one wants him
agree
Not so sure nobody wants him . If Cardinals pick up substantial amount of salary (which they would obviously need to ) , there could be suitors.
One team that was NOT on his trade list of contending type teams this past offseason was the Milwaukee Brewers. If Suarez doesn't go there , I would not put it past Brewers to make a play for Nado. They seek an upgrade for their 3rd base spot. Nado would be that .
Problem is would Mo trade Nado within the division ? Rarely does that happen .
One attractive thing for MO is that Milwaukee has a very good farm system. Could be something there that Mo/Bloom may want to get if offered
It doesn't really matter how good the receiving teams' farm system is- we're not drawing from the top end of anyones prospect list if we can trade Arenado at all.
Nobody said not implied that thr Cards would draw from the ‘top end’ of any team’s list. The point about Brewers was that with a good farm system there is more depth of players that could be drawn from. Ex. A 10th to 15th player in a strong system would be a better guy than similar number in a weaker farm system .
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Re: MO to meet with Nado

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Why wouldn’t Mo just meet with him and then tell us his answer? What’s he gain by telling the media about what he’s going to do?
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Re: MO to meet with Nado

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While NA may seem amendable to waive NTC his AGENT will no doubt counsel the client to agree BUT want $5-$10M to accept the waiver. Pretty standard for high profile veteran players.

For a team trying to save money it again puts them in black hole territory. MO Ran should have stayed a batting practice pitching expert.
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Re: MO to meet with Nado

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 22 Jul 2025 09:22 am
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 09:01 am
Jatalk wrote: 22 Jul 2025 06:11 am I have screamed this from the rooftop since spring training. YOU TELL NA HIS PLAYING TIME WILL BE REDUCED !!!!!

He will accept a trade. So simple.
Yes, of course.
Take the trade.
Or you are permanently the last man on the bench.
Very, very easy to get this done.
Stop. You don’t say that stuff to maybe a future HoF still with an Ace glove.

What you get or give up in Arenado will not be replaced by a hitter with a better average, and certainly no better D.

He will get traded, as a contender who has a great staff but lacks depth nfield defense will see his value to the over arching construction of a team.
Actually, that is EXACTLY what you say if you are a true leader, because that is precisely what is in the best interest of the team.
STL holds 100% of the leverage and needs only the willingness to use it.
FACT is, N/A needs to e traded far more than STL needs to trade him.
One, he is fading rapidly and is quickly running out of time to have meaningful participation in the post-season.
He could easily be out of baseball at the end of 2027 - and he knows it.
Two, outside of his Gold Glove, N/A does not have a HOF resume.
Sitting on 351 HR. 1907 hits, 1174 RBI, 985 runs.
Obviously, he wants to pad those stats - particularly since HOF voters will apply to Coors penalty.
Bottom line:
'Take the trade or take the bench".
Period.
Very, very easy to trade him (again).
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.
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Re: MO to meet with Nado

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Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 14:08 pm
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 22 Jul 2025 09:22 am
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 09:01 am
Jatalk wrote: 22 Jul 2025 06:11 am I have screamed this from the rooftop since spring training. YOU TELL NA HIS PLAYING TIME WILL BE REDUCED !!!!!

He will accept a trade. So simple.
Yes, of course.
Take the trade.
Or you are permanently the last man on the bench.
Very, very easy to get this done.
Stop. You don’t say that stuff to maybe a future HoF still with an Ace glove.

What you get or give up in Arenado will not be replaced by a hitter with a better average, and certainly no better D.

He will get traded, as a contender who has a great staff but lacks depth nfield defense will see his value to the over arching construction of a team.
Actually, that is EXACTLY what you say if you are a true leader, because that is precisely what is in the best interest of the team.
STL holds 100% of the leverage and needs only the willingness to use it.
FACT is, N/A needs to e traded far more than STL needs to trade him.
One, he is fading rapidly and is quickly running out of time to have meaningful participation in the post-season.
He could easily be out of baseball at the end of 2027 - and he knows it.
Two, outside of his Gold Glove, N/A does not have a HOF resume.
Sitting on 351 HR. 1907 hits, 1174 RBI, 985 runs.
Obviously, he wants to pad those stats - particularly since HOF voters will apply to Coors penalty.
Bottom line:
'Take the trade or take the bench".
Period.
Very, very easy to trade him (again).
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.
lol that’s the dumbest thing the cardinals could do and the dumbest thing you could have possibly suggested on how to handle the situation
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Re: MO to meet with Nado

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Jul 2025 14:28 pm
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 14:08 pm
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 22 Jul 2025 09:22 am
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 09:01 am
Jatalk wrote: 22 Jul 2025 06:11 am I have screamed this from the rooftop since spring training. YOU TELL NA HIS PLAYING TIME WILL BE REDUCED !!!!!

He will accept a trade. So simple.
Yes, of course.
Take the trade.
Or you are permanently the last man on the bench.
Very, very easy to get this done.
Stop. You don’t say that stuff to maybe a future HoF still with an Ace glove.

What you get or give up in Arenado will not be replaced by a hitter with a better average, and certainly no better D.

He will get traded, as a contender who has a great staff but lacks depth nfield defense will see his value to the over arching construction of a team.
Actually, that is EXACTLY what you say if you are a true leader, because that is precisely what is in the best interest of the team.
STL holds 100% of the leverage and needs only the willingness to use it.
FACT is, N/A needs to e traded far more than STL needs to trade him.
One, he is fading rapidly and is quickly running out of time to have meaningful participation in the post-season.
He could easily be out of baseball at the end of 2027 - and he knows it.
Two, outside of his Gold Glove, N/A does not have a HOF resume.
Sitting on 351 HR. 1907 hits, 1174 RBI, 985 runs.
Obviously, he wants to pad those stats - particularly since HOF voters will apply to Coors penalty.
Bottom line:
'Take the trade or take the bench".
Period.
Very, very easy to trade him (again).
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.
lol that’s the dumbest thing the cardinals could do and the dumbest thing you could have possibly suggested on how to handle the situation
Now wait a minute, we could slide Gorman right into Nado's slot and not miss a beat.
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Re: MO to meet with Nado

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ClassicO wrote: 22 Jul 2025 10:22 am Why wouldn’t Mo just meet with him and then tell us his answer? What’s he gain by telling the media about what he’s going to do?
My thought exactly.
If this is his idea of creating pressure on Arenado, it is as misguided as his other decisions.
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Re: MO to meet with Nado

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OldRed wrote: 22 Jul 2025 09:30 am Why would Arenado believe anything Mo has to say?
Well, there are a few who believe that Mo-ran is a wonderful POBO! :D
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Re: MO to meet with Nado

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 22 Jul 2025 09:22 am
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 09:01 am
Jatalk wrote: 22 Jul 2025 06:11 am I have screamed this from the rooftop since spring training. YOU TELL NA HIS PLAYING TIME WILL BE REDUCED !!!!!

He will accept a trade. So simple.
Yes, of course.
Take the trade.
Or you are permanently the last man on the bench.
Very, very easy to get this done.
Stop. You don’t say that stuff to maybe a future HoF still with an Ace glove.

What you get or give up in Arenado will not be replaced by a hitter with a better average, and certainly no better D.

He will get traded, as a contender who has a great staff but lacks depth nfield defense will see his value to the over arching construction of a team.
The hell you don't. This is business.
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Re: MO to meet with Nado

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dugoutrex wrote: 22 Jul 2025 09:19 am pay Nolan to play somewhere else ... no thanks!
Think of it as a Waste Management disposal fee…
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Re: MO to meet with Nado

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Jul 2025 14:28 pm
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 14:08 pm
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 22 Jul 2025 09:22 am
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 09:01 am
Jatalk wrote: 22 Jul 2025 06:11 am I have screamed this from the rooftop since spring training. YOU TELL NA HIS PLAYING TIME WILL BE REDUCED !!!!!

He will accept a trade. So simple.
Yes, of course.
Take the trade.
Or you are permanently the last man on the bench.
Very, very easy to get this done.
Stop. You don’t say that stuff to maybe a future HoF still with an Ace glove.

What you get or give up in Arenado will not be replaced by a hitter with a better average, and certainly no better D.

He will get traded, as a contender who has a great staff but lacks depth nfield defense will see his value to the over arching construction of a team.
Actually, that is EXACTLY what you say if you are a true leader, because that is precisely what is in the best interest of the team.
STL holds 100% of the leverage and needs only the willingness to use it.
FACT is, N/A needs to e traded far more than STL needs to trade him.
One, he is fading rapidly and is quickly running out of time to have meaningful participation in the post-season.
He could easily be out of baseball at the end of 2027 - and he knows it.
Two, outside of his Gold Glove, N/A does not have a HOF resume.
Sitting on 351 HR. 1907 hits, 1174 RBI, 985 runs.
Obviously, he wants to pad those stats - particularly since HOF voters will apply to Coors penalty.
Bottom line:
'Take the trade or take the bench".
Period.
Very, very easy to trade him (again).
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.
lol that’s the dumbest thing the cardinals could do and the dumbest thing you could have possibly suggested on how to handle the situation
Veteran players are benched all the time.
Heck, the Yankees did it with LeMahieu - who was having about the same level of season as N/A.
When he complained, they released him.
He is guaranteed 15M this season and next.
That is what leadership looks like.
Not hard, really.
STL is in a similar situation with N/A - but they have far more leverage than NY did.
All they lacks is the guts to do the right thing.
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Re: MO to meet with Nado

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Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 14:48 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Jul 2025 14:28 pm
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 14:08 pm
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 22 Jul 2025 09:22 am
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 09:01 am
Jatalk wrote: 22 Jul 2025 06:11 am I have screamed this from the rooftop since spring training. YOU TELL NA HIS PLAYING TIME WILL BE REDUCED !!!!!

He will accept a trade. So simple.
Yes, of course.
Take the trade.
Or you are permanently the last man on the bench.
Very, very easy to get this done.
Stop. You don’t say that stuff to maybe a future HoF still with an Ace glove.

What you get or give up in Arenado will not be replaced by a hitter with a better average, and certainly no better D.

He will get traded, as a contender who has a great staff but lacks depth nfield defense will see his value to the over arching construction of a team.
Actually, that is EXACTLY what you say if you are a true leader, because that is precisely what is in the best interest of the team.
STL holds 100% of the leverage and needs only the willingness to use it.
FACT is, N/A needs to e traded far more than STL needs to trade him.
One, he is fading rapidly and is quickly running out of time to have meaningful participation in the post-season.
He could easily be out of baseball at the end of 2027 - and he knows it.
Two, outside of his Gold Glove, N/A does not have a HOF resume.
Sitting on 351 HR. 1907 hits, 1174 RBI, 985 runs.
Obviously, he wants to pad those stats - particularly since HOF voters will apply to Coors penalty.
Bottom line:
'Take the trade or take the bench".
Period.
Very, very easy to trade him (again).
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.
lol that’s the dumbest thing the cardinals could do and the dumbest thing you could have possibly suggested on how to handle the situation
Veteran players are benched all the time.
Heck, the Yankees did it with LeMahieu - who was having about the same level of season as N/A.
When he complained, they released him.
He is guaranteed 15M this season and next.
That is what leadership looks like.
Not hard, really.
STL is in a similar situation with N/A - but they have far more leverage than NY did.
All they lacks is the guts to do the right thing.
You are referencing a club that has a long history of holding onto players who are well, well past their prime…

They may well be planning the Arenado “farewell tour” already…
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Re: MO to meet with Nado

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WLTFE wrote: 22 Jul 2025 14:42 pm
OldRed wrote: 22 Jul 2025 09:30 am Why would Arenado believe anything Mo has to say?
Well, there are a few who believe that Mo-ran is a wonderful POBO! :D
You are seriously stuck on stupid.
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Re: MO to meet with Nado

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riff raff wrote: 22 Jul 2025 15:00 pm
WLTFE wrote: 22 Jul 2025 14:42 pm
OldRed wrote: 22 Jul 2025 09:30 am Why would Arenado believe anything Mo has to say?
Well, there are a few who believe that Mo-ran is a wonderful POBO! :D
You are seriously stuck on stupid.
And you're a stupid P[ositively] O[bnoxious] S[impleton]!...go away sweetie and take your front office (donkey) kissers with you.
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