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ecleme22 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:08 am

Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:06 am

ecleme22 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:05 am

Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:57 am

JDW wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:42 am Although some don't like WAR, especially when it doesn't fit their agenda, it's spot on with Burly this year.
He's also showing so far this year that going by BA is a poor hollow measure to use when looking at just hitting with a player.
AB's current batting line would be very good if he played defense well at a key position like SS, CF or C, but he doesn't/can't/never will.
In addition to being poor defensively in the OF, he also can clog the bases and is vulnerable to the gidp.
Imo he's highly over rated on here, and maybe to a lesser degree still over valued slightly by the league.
Good trade candidate before this year's deadline in my view, and he's lost about 1'/sec. in sprint speed since last year. He's pretty young to already be losing speed, or better said to already becoming even more slow.
Kinda funny, but Ricky commented the other day during a broadcast how Burly wasn't as slow as some people think. Wonder if he was referring to forums like this one, but yeah Ricky, it's a shame measured sprint speed metrics have a conspiracy against Burleson.
Fake sprint speed data Ricky, you'd be the perfect dupe to endorse that idea.

Really hope the Cards retain Contreras for the balance of his contract. He's already a good defensive 1B that has the consistent ability to post +.800 OPS's for a season.

He has a .782 OPS against RHP. That plays.

For someone who is slow and plays spotty defense, a .782 OPS 'plays,' but it doesn't necessarily play everyday.

Agree. He’s a platoon type player.

Yes, but not a straight platoon.

Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:14 am

ecleme22 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:08 am

Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:06 am

ecleme22 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:05 am

Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:57 am

JDW wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:42 am Although some don't like WAR, especially when it doesn't fit their agenda, it's spot on with Burly this year.
He's also showing so far this year that going by BA is a poor hollow measure to use when looking at just hitting with a player.
AB's current batting line would be very good if he played defense well at a key position like SS, CF or C, but he doesn't/can't/never will.
In addition to being poor defensively in the OF, he also can clog the bases and is vulnerable to the gidp.
Imo he's highly over rated on here, and maybe to a lesser degree still over valued slightly by the league.
Good trade candidate before this year's deadline in my view, and he's lost about 1'/sec. in sprint speed since last year. He's pretty young to already be losing speed, or better said to already becoming even more slow.
Kinda funny, but Ricky commented the other day during a broadcast how Burly wasn't as slow as some people think. Wonder if he was referring to forums like this one, but yeah Ricky, it's a shame measured sprint speed metrics have a conspiracy against Burleson.
Fake sprint speed data Ricky, you'd be the perfect dupe to endorse that idea.

Really hope the Cards retain Contreras for the balance of his contract. He's already a good defensive 1B that has the consistent ability to post +.800 OPS's for a season.

He has a .782 OPS against RHP. That plays.

For someone who is slow and plays spotty defense, a .782 OPS 'plays,' but it doesn't necessarily play everyday.

Agree. He’s a platoon type player.

Yes, but not a straight platoon.

Okay, how about a DH platoon player? Does that pass your test?

Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:57 am

JDW wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:42 am Although some don't like WAR, especially when it doesn't fit their agenda, it's spot on with Burly this year.
He's also showing so far this year that going by BA is a poor hollow measure to use when looking at just hitting with a player.
AB's current batting line would be very good if he played defense well at a key position like SS, CF or C, but he doesn't/can't/never will.
In addition to being poor defensively in the OF, he also can clog the bases and is vulnerable to the gidp.
Imo he's highly over rated on here, and maybe to a lesser degree still over valued slightly by the league.
Good trade candidate before this year's deadline in my view, and he's lost about 1'/sec. in sprint speed since last year. He's pretty young to already be losing speed, or better said to already becoming even more slow.
Kinda funny, but Ricky commented the other day during a broadcast how Burly wasn't as slow as some people think. Wonder if he was referring to forums like this one, but yeah Ricky, it's a shame measured sprint speed metrics have a conspiracy against Burleson.
Fake sprint speed data Ricky, you'd be the perfect dupe to endorse that idea.

Really hope the Cards retain Contreras for the balance of his contract. He's already a good defensive 1B that has the consistent ability to post +.800 OPS's for a season.

He has a .782 OPS against RHP. That plays.

JDW wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:35 am

Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:57 am

JDW wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:42 am Although some don't like WAR, especially when it doesn't fit their agenda, it's spot on with Burly this year.
He's also showing so far this year that going by BA is a poor hollow measure to use when looking at just hitting with a player.
AB's current batting line would be very good if he played defense well at a key position like SS, CF or C, but he doesn't/can't/never will.
In addition to being poor defensively in the OF, he also can clog the bases and is vulnerable to the gidp.
Imo he's highly over rated on here, and maybe to a lesser degree still over valued slightly by the league.
Good trade candidate before this year's deadline in my view, and he's lost about 1'/sec. in sprint speed since last year. He's pretty young to already be losing speed, or better said to already becoming even more slow.
Kinda funny, but Ricky commented the other day during a broadcast how Burly wasn't as slow as some people think. Wonder if he was referring to forums like this one, but yeah Ricky, it's a shame measured sprint speed metrics have a conspiracy against Burleson.
Fake sprint speed data Ricky, you'd be the perfect dupe to endorse that idea.

Really hope the Cards retain Contreras for the balance of his contract. He's already a good defensive 1B that has the consistent ability to post +.800 OPS's for a season.

He has a .782 OPS against RHP. That plays.

Where at, DH? Nah, I'll take Herrera.
When I look at OPS, I don't split it down, instead look at the overall. Why? B/c if a guy has big split differences, if he comes up against the fav matchup when a big situation develops, what's the other manager likely to do? Ummmmm, gee, this hard, wait, oh yeah, bring in a LHP in Burly's case. I don't want a DH that burns up the bench b/c even at his best skill which is marginal, all they have to do is switch pitchers.
Btw, here's Burly's OPS by year: 2022 - 0.535, 2023 - .691, 2024 - .735, and so far in 2025 - .753.
Nice trend. Will the .753 so far hold thru the grind?
Which comes first, Burly eventually trends up to a .800 OPS season or age regression sets in?

Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:39 am

JDW wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:35 am

Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:57 am

JDW wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:42 am Although some don't like WAR, especially when it doesn't fit their agenda, it's spot on with Burly this year.
He's also showing so far this year that going by BA is a poor hollow measure to use when looking at just hitting with a player.
AB's current batting line would be very good if he played defense well at a key position like SS, CF or C, but he doesn't/can't/never will.
In addition to being poor defensively in the OF, he also can clog the bases and is vulnerable to the gidp.
Imo he's highly over rated on here, and maybe to a lesser degree still over valued slightly by the league.
Good trade candidate before this year's deadline in my view, and he's lost about 1'/sec. in sprint speed since last year. He's pretty young to already be losing speed, or better said to already becoming even more slow.
Kinda funny, but Ricky commented the other day during a broadcast how Burly wasn't as slow as some people think. Wonder if he was referring to forums like this one, but yeah Ricky, it's a shame measured sprint speed metrics have a conspiracy against Burleson.
Fake sprint speed data Ricky, you'd be the perfect dupe to endorse that idea.

Really hope the Cards retain Contreras for the balance of his contract. He's already a good defensive 1B that has the consistent ability to post +.800 OPS's for a season.

He has a .782 OPS against RHP. That plays.

Where at, DH? Nah, I'll take Herrera.
When I look at OPS, I don't split it down, instead look at the overall. Why? B/c if a guy has big split differences, if he comes up against the fav matchup when a big situation develops, what's the other manager likely to do? Ummmmm, gee, this hard, wait, oh yeah, bring in a LHP in Burly's case. I don't want a DH that burns up the bench b/c even at his best skill which is marginal, all they have to do is switch pitchers.
Btw, here's Burly's OPS by year: 2022 - 0.535, 2023 - .691, 2024 - .735, and so far in 2025 - .753.
Nice trend. Will the .753 so far hold thru the grind?
Which comes first, Burly eventually trends up to a .800 OPS season or age regression sets in?

You’re right on as usual, JDW. Get rid of that bum Burly. He stinks. Better?

Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 07:29 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 07:04 am It is getting really difficult to watch him in the field. He covers no ground and takes terrible routes. His play cost several extra bases last night.
I know injuries sort of forced this, but brutal

Not the biggest problem on this team, by any means.

ecleme22 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:46 am

Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:39 am

JDW wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:35 am

Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:57 am

JDW wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:42 am Although some don't like WAR, especially when it doesn't fit their agenda, it's spot on with Burly this year.
He's also showing so far this year that going by BA is a poor hollow measure to use when looking at just hitting with a player.
AB's current batting line would be very good if he played defense well at a key position like SS, CF or C, but he doesn't/can't/never will.
In addition to being poor defensively in the OF, he also can clog the bases and is vulnerable to the gidp.
Imo he's highly over rated on here, and maybe to a lesser degree still over valued slightly by the league.
Good trade candidate before this year's deadline in my view, and he's lost about 1'/sec. in sprint speed since last year. He's pretty young to already be losing speed, or better said to already becoming even more slow.
Kinda funny, but Ricky commented the other day during a broadcast how Burly wasn't as slow as some people think. Wonder if he was referring to forums like this one, but yeah Ricky, it's a shame measured sprint speed metrics have a conspiracy against Burleson.
Fake sprint speed data Ricky, you'd be the perfect dupe to endorse that idea.

Really hope the Cards retain Contreras for the balance of his contract. He's already a good defensive 1B that has the consistent ability to post +.800 OPS's for a season.

He has a .782 OPS against RHP. That plays.

Where at, DH? Nah, I'll take Herrera.
When I look at OPS, I don't split it down, instead look at the overall. Why? B/c if a guy has big split differences, if he comes up against the fav matchup when a big situation develops, what's the other manager likely to do? Ummmmm, gee, this hard, wait, oh yeah, bring in a LHP in Burly's case. I don't want a DH that burns up the bench b/c even at his best skill which is marginal, all they have to do is switch pitchers.
Btw, here's Burly's OPS by year: 2022 - 0.535, 2023 - .691, 2024 - .735, and so far in 2025 - .753.
Nice trend. Will the .753 so far hold thru the grind?
Which comes first, Burly eventually trends up to a .800 OPS season or age regression sets in?

You’re right on as usual, JDW. Get rid of that bum Burly. He stinks. Better?

Let's keep the conversation at an adult level. Thanks.

Ace Hollister wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:52 am imo - lack of talent

craviduce wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:58 am

Ace Hollister wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:52 am imo - lack of talent

Tourette's? Don't know how the "Reply Function" works? Or are you purposefully trolling by not using it? Keep the conversation rolling, use the Reply Function. Your post will stand out on its own if it's worth it.

No one knows who you're replying to, and you disrupt the convo if anyone is trying to read it later.

Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:39 am You’re right on as usual, JDW. Get rid of that bum Burly. He stinks. Better?

Goldfan wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 11:10 am Did it take him 3-4 minutes to play that 2b into a TRIPLE???