Okay, how about a DH platoon player? Does that pass your test?ecleme22 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:08 amYes, but not a straight platoon.Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:06 amAgree. He’s a platoon type player.ecleme22 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:05 amFor someone who is slow and plays spotty defense, a .782 OPS 'plays,' but it doesn't necessarily play everyday.Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:57 amHe has a .782 OPS against RHP. That plays.JDW wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:42 am Although some don't like WAR, especially when it doesn't fit their agenda, it's spot on with Burly this year.
He's also showing so far this year that going by BA is a poor hollow measure to use when looking at just hitting with a player.
AB's current batting line would be very good if he played defense well at a key position like SS, CF or C, but he doesn't/can't/never will.
In addition to being poor defensively in the OF, he also can clog the bases and is vulnerable to the gidp.
Imo he's highly over rated on here, and maybe to a lesser degree still over valued slightly by the league.
Good trade candidate before this year's deadline in my view, and he's lost about 1'/sec. in sprint speed since last year. He's pretty young to already be losing speed, or better said to already becoming even more slow.
Kinda funny, but Ricky commented the other day during a broadcast how Burly wasn't as slow as some people think. Wonder if he was referring to forums like this one, but yeah Ricky, it's a shame measured sprint speed metrics have a conspiracy against Burleson.
Fake sprint speed data Ricky, you'd be the perfect dupe to endorse that idea.
Really hope the Cards retain Contreras for the balance of his contract. He's already a good defensive 1B that has the consistent ability to post +.800 OPS's for a season.
Burleson looked like a pig on ice skates last night
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Re: Burleson looked like a pig on ice skates last night
Herrera has an .824 OPS vs RHP this year.Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:14 amOkay, how about a DH platoon player? Does that pass your test?ecleme22 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:08 amYes, but not a straight platoon.Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:06 amAgree. He’s a platoon type player.ecleme22 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:05 amFor someone who is slow and plays spotty defense, a .782 OPS 'plays,' but it doesn't necessarily play everyday.Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:57 amHe has a .782 OPS against RHP. That plays.JDW wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:42 am Although some don't like WAR, especially when it doesn't fit their agenda, it's spot on with Burly this year.
He's also showing so far this year that going by BA is a poor hollow measure to use when looking at just hitting with a player.
AB's current batting line would be very good if he played defense well at a key position like SS, CF or C, but he doesn't/can't/never will.
In addition to being poor defensively in the OF, he also can clog the bases and is vulnerable to the gidp.
Imo he's highly over rated on here, and maybe to a lesser degree still over valued slightly by the league.
Good trade candidate before this year's deadline in my view, and he's lost about 1'/sec. in sprint speed since last year. He's pretty young to already be losing speed, or better said to already becoming even more slow.
Kinda funny, but Ricky commented the other day during a broadcast how Burly wasn't as slow as some people think. Wonder if he was referring to forums like this one, but yeah Ricky, it's a shame measured sprint speed metrics have a conspiracy against Burleson.
Fake sprint speed data Ricky, you'd be the perfect dupe to endorse that idea.
Really hope the Cards retain Contreras for the balance of his contract. He's already a good defensive 1B that has the consistent ability to post +.800 OPS's for a season.
Re: Burleson looked like a pig on ice skates last night
Where at, DH? Nah, I'll take Herrera.Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:57 amHe has a .782 OPS against RHP. That plays.JDW wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:42 am Although some don't like WAR, especially when it doesn't fit their agenda, it's spot on with Burly this year.
He's also showing so far this year that going by BA is a poor hollow measure to use when looking at just hitting with a player.
AB's current batting line would be very good if he played defense well at a key position like SS, CF or C, but he doesn't/can't/never will.
In addition to being poor defensively in the OF, he also can clog the bases and is vulnerable to the gidp.
Imo he's highly over rated on here, and maybe to a lesser degree still over valued slightly by the league.
Good trade candidate before this year's deadline in my view, and he's lost about 1'/sec. in sprint speed since last year. He's pretty young to already be losing speed, or better said to already becoming even more slow.
Kinda funny, but Ricky commented the other day during a broadcast how Burly wasn't as slow as some people think. Wonder if he was referring to forums like this one, but yeah Ricky, it's a shame measured sprint speed metrics have a conspiracy against Burleson.
Fake sprint speed data Ricky, you'd be the perfect dupe to endorse that idea.
Really hope the Cards retain Contreras for the balance of his contract. He's already a good defensive 1B that has the consistent ability to post +.800 OPS's for a season.
When I look at OPS, I don't split it down, instead look at the overall. Why? B/c if a guy has big split differences, if he comes up against the fav matchup when a big situation develops, what's the other manager likely to do? Ummmmm, gee, this hard, wait, oh yeah, bring in a LHP in Burly's case. I don't want a DH that burns up the bench b/c even at his best skill which is marginal, all they have to do is switch pitchers.
Btw, here's Burly's OPS by year: 2022 - 0.535, 2023 - .691, 2024 - .735, and so far in 2025 - .753.
Nice trend. Will the .753 so far hold thru the grind?
Which comes first, Burly eventually trends up to a .800 OPS season or age regression sets in?
Re: Burleson looked like a pig on ice skates last night
You’re right on as usual, JDW. Get rid of that bum Burly. He stinks. Better?JDW wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:35 amWhere at, DH? Nah, I'll take Herrera.Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:57 amHe has a .782 OPS against RHP. That plays.JDW wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:42 am Although some don't like WAR, especially when it doesn't fit their agenda, it's spot on with Burly this year.
He's also showing so far this year that going by BA is a poor hollow measure to use when looking at just hitting with a player.
AB's current batting line would be very good if he played defense well at a key position like SS, CF or C, but he doesn't/can't/never will.
In addition to being poor defensively in the OF, he also can clog the bases and is vulnerable to the gidp.
Imo he's highly over rated on here, and maybe to a lesser degree still over valued slightly by the league.
Good trade candidate before this year's deadline in my view, and he's lost about 1'/sec. in sprint speed since last year. He's pretty young to already be losing speed, or better said to already becoming even more slow.
Kinda funny, but Ricky commented the other day during a broadcast how Burly wasn't as slow as some people think. Wonder if he was referring to forums like this one, but yeah Ricky, it's a shame measured sprint speed metrics have a conspiracy against Burleson.
Fake sprint speed data Ricky, you'd be the perfect dupe to endorse that idea.
Really hope the Cards retain Contreras for the balance of his contract. He's already a good defensive 1B that has the consistent ability to post +.800 OPS's for a season.
When I look at OPS, I don't split it down, instead look at the overall. Why? B/c if a guy has big split differences, if he comes up against the fav matchup when a big situation develops, what's the other manager likely to do? Ummmmm, gee, this hard, wait, oh yeah, bring in a LHP in Burly's case. I don't want a DH that burns up the bench b/c even at his best skill which is marginal, all they have to do is switch pitchers.
Btw, here's Burly's OPS by year: 2022 - 0.535, 2023 - .691, 2024 - .735, and so far in 2025 - .753.
Nice trend. Will the .753 so far hold thru the grind?
Which comes first, Burly eventually trends up to a .800 OPS season or age regression sets in?
Re: Burleson looked like a pig on ice skates last night
Let's keep the conversation at an adult level. Thanks.Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:39 amYou’re right on as usual, JDW. Get rid of that bum Burly. He stinks. Better?JDW wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:35 amWhere at, DH? Nah, I'll take Herrera.Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:57 amHe has a .782 OPS against RHP. That plays.JDW wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:42 am Although some don't like WAR, especially when it doesn't fit their agenda, it's spot on with Burly this year.
He's also showing so far this year that going by BA is a poor hollow measure to use when looking at just hitting with a player.
AB's current batting line would be very good if he played defense well at a key position like SS, CF or C, but he doesn't/can't/never will.
In addition to being poor defensively in the OF, he also can clog the bases and is vulnerable to the gidp.
Imo he's highly over rated on here, and maybe to a lesser degree still over valued slightly by the league.
Good trade candidate before this year's deadline in my view, and he's lost about 1'/sec. in sprint speed since last year. He's pretty young to already be losing speed, or better said to already becoming even more slow.
Kinda funny, but Ricky commented the other day during a broadcast how Burly wasn't as slow as some people think. Wonder if he was referring to forums like this one, but yeah Ricky, it's a shame measured sprint speed metrics have a conspiracy against Burleson.
Fake sprint speed data Ricky, you'd be the perfect dupe to endorse that idea.
Really hope the Cards retain Contreras for the balance of his contract. He's already a good defensive 1B that has the consistent ability to post +.800 OPS's for a season.
When I look at OPS, I don't split it down, instead look at the overall. Why? B/c if a guy has big split differences, if he comes up against the fav matchup when a big situation develops, what's the other manager likely to do? Ummmmm, gee, this hard, wait, oh yeah, bring in a LHP in Burly's case. I don't want a DH that burns up the bench b/c even at his best skill which is marginal, all they have to do is switch pitchers.
Btw, here's Burly's OPS by year: 2022 - 0.535, 2023 - .691, 2024 - .735, and so far in 2025 - .753.
Nice trend. Will the .753 so far hold thru the grind?
Which comes first, Burly eventually trends up to a .800 OPS season or age regression sets in?
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imo - lack of talent
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Ha.ecleme22 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:46 amLet's keep the conversation at an adult level. Thanks.Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:39 amYou’re right on as usual, JDW. Get rid of that bum Burly. He stinks. Better?JDW wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:35 amWhere at, DH? Nah, I'll take Herrera.Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:57 amHe has a .782 OPS against RHP. That plays.JDW wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:42 am Although some don't like WAR, especially when it doesn't fit their agenda, it's spot on with Burly this year.
He's also showing so far this year that going by BA is a poor hollow measure to use when looking at just hitting with a player.
AB's current batting line would be very good if he played defense well at a key position like SS, CF or C, but he doesn't/can't/never will.
In addition to being poor defensively in the OF, he also can clog the bases and is vulnerable to the gidp.
Imo he's highly over rated on here, and maybe to a lesser degree still over valued slightly by the league.
Good trade candidate before this year's deadline in my view, and he's lost about 1'/sec. in sprint speed since last year. He's pretty young to already be losing speed, or better said to already becoming even more slow.
Kinda funny, but Ricky commented the other day during a broadcast how Burly wasn't as slow as some people think. Wonder if he was referring to forums like this one, but yeah Ricky, it's a shame measured sprint speed metrics have a conspiracy against Burleson.
Fake sprint speed data Ricky, you'd be the perfect dupe to endorse that idea.
Really hope the Cards retain Contreras for the balance of his contract. He's already a good defensive 1B that has the consistent ability to post +.800 OPS's for a season.
When I look at OPS, I don't split it down, instead look at the overall. Why? B/c if a guy has big split differences, if he comes up against the fav matchup when a big situation develops, what's the other manager likely to do? Ummmmm, gee, this hard, wait, oh yeah, bring in a LHP in Burly's case. I don't want a DH that burns up the bench b/c even at his best skill which is marginal, all they have to do is switch pitchers.
Btw, here's Burly's OPS by year: 2022 - 0.535, 2023 - .691, 2024 - .735, and so far in 2025 - .753.
Nice trend. Will the .753 so far hold thru the grind?
Which comes first, Burly eventually trends up to a .800 OPS season or age regression sets in?
Not calling him a bum and never have, that's on you, and I hope he can keep trending better, but to ever be more than be a bench player I've consistently have posted on here he'll need to be +.800 OPS guy with his other limitations.
He did post a +1.2 bWAR last year, which is a good for a bench player, but I hope the Cards FO strives to have at least +3.0 bWAR capable guys for their starting positions.
Re: Burleson looked like a pig on ice skates last night
Tourette's? Don't know how the "Reply Function" works? Or are you purposefully trolling by not using it? Keep the conversation rolling, use the Reply Function. Your post will stand out on its own if it's worth it.
No one knows who you're replying to, and you disrupt the convo if anyone is trying to read it later.
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i put it right under the question asked. lol. will use reply button. no i'm not most savvy tech guy at my age.
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craviduce wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 10:58 amTourette's? Don't know how the "Reply Function" works? Or are you purposefully trolling by not using it? Keep the conversation rolling, use the Reply Function. Your post will stand out on its own if it's worth it.
No one knows who you're replying to, and you disrupt the convo if anyone is trying to read it later.
i put it right under the question asked. lol. will use reply button. no i'm not most savvy tech guy at my age.
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Did it take him 3-4 minutes to play that 2b into a TRIPLE???



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Re: Burleson looked like a pig on ice skates last night
Big man. Pig man. Ha ha charade you are.
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The topic is an insult to the pig.