GDT : Cards @ Royals (5/18) ~ 1:10pm CDT

[Ike Hammett]

Come on get real! That was only 3+ playing months ago. You can't count the off season. BWAAAAHAHAHA!!!! For 6 of the last 10 months he has also put up the same numbers as Ohtani and Judge. Give me 3 average months and a big 4th for a career and you are a stud. I get it, I really do. He is not Mike Schmidt or Chipper Jones anymore he is more Brooks Robinson now.

That wasn’t calendar year 10 months, that was playing season 10 months.

2025
April: .747 OPS
May: .619 OPS

2024
April: .687 OPS
May: .689 OPS
June: .702 OPS
July: .738 OPS
August: .807 OPS
Sept: .681 OPS

2023
September: .509 OPS
August: .709 OPS

Say Whaaaa??? Are you drunk?

Why would you say that?

August of 2024 was 3+ plating months ago not 10 playing months ago. You can't count the off season to state it's been 10 months since he had a hotter month.

I didn’t say it’s been 10 months since he’s had a hotter month. I said that in his last 10 months (meaning playing months) he has had 1 month with an OPS above .750. And an .807 OPS for a “hot month” is a far cry from where Arenado used to be.

"He has not been getting hot" is what you stared. He had a hotter month 3+ playing months ago. He has had 108 and 101 ops+ the last 2 seasons. That is league average or slightly above at the plate, coming off a monster year the one before. Ops+ is a better determination of the numbers than just straight ops it includes more information.

A hot month for a player hitting 4th should be at least a .900 OPS and preferably close to 1.000. Arenado hasn’t had one of those months since July of 2023.

Contreras and Herrera have both had multiple months this year and last with .900+ OPS’s as well as others in the mid .800s.

Is that what this is all about, you want Herrera up more? Okay, move Herrera to 2 and Winn to 8 or 9. It's basically the same thing as you will have 2 table setters in Winn and Scott with a 3 type hitter in Noot in front of him, that also puts Nado at 6 or second clean up. I could live with that if it makes you all happy. We tried Contreras at 2 and he wasn't hitting and we weren't winning big. I don't know what it is but there might be some mental comfort or pitch sequences etc that effect batting orders, maybe Herrera is only good hitting 6th like when they moved Contreras down. I will state it again, I don't think we should be messing with a winning formula.

It's all about the wins! I don't care if we win 1-0 with 2 hits or 11-10 with 15 hits. The best teams on paper don't always win.

Why take a guy who is hitting well in the two spot out of the two spot and give him fewer at bats and move herrera up to replace him just so a guy who isn’t a damage hitter anymore can continue to bat clean up and not drive in runs? Even Winn has more home runs than Arenado and hes been on the IL

I don't want to do anything, I want what has been working. You all want to get Herrera more at bats in bigger situations (I think). That was the original plan when they had Contreras batting second. On the chess board game of lineups Winn is a strong knight or bishop, Nado is a rook. The ceiling for driving in runs and "cleaning up" is much greater with Nado, he is a power player. Winn is more of a table setter, speed, troublemaker versatile player. You do it to roll over the bottom of the lineup to maximize your chances at a big inning with Herrera up to "clean up" or try to steal a runs from the bottom of the lineup.

You won't have less at bats if you score more. Nado deserves some protection, you don't want to bunch outs together to kill rallies, Winn is still a young guy less stress.

Since beginning of last season Winn has the same number of HRs and more doubles than Nado.

Nado: 33 2B 20 HR
Winn: 38 2B 20 HR

And for as much speed as Winn has, he’s not much of a SB threat yet.

What we want is the guys that really hit in the middle of the order, the guys like Contreras/Herrera.

Noot
Winn
Donovan
Contreras
Herrera
Arenado
Walker/Burleson/Gorman
Pages/Pozo
Scott

Look at the bottom of your lineup, you have average, below average and platoon dudes.
If you went more like,

Donovan
Herrera
Noot
Nado
Contreras
Pages/ Pozo
Walker/ Biscut/ Gorman
Scott
Winn

You break it up some and have some more speed at the bottom. You have 3 table setters and on base guys with some speed for Herrera to "clean up" .

Nado is a big dude and has a big reputation, knowing he is coming up or seeing him on deck might change the pitching patterns of some pitchers and catchers from a team like Detroit that don't know much about our club but watched sportscenter growing up know Nado is a stud. If you drop him you are just announcing to everyone he is not at his best and you have lost confidence in him, also be careful with Herrera he is better than Nado. Plus you have no real protection for our big money guy. Scott has great speed and can score on a double or steal a base, now you have 1 extra better hitter to get him in. It's basically what you want but starting the game with your 3-4-5 hitters who are ops guys.

[vegascardsfan5890]

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