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icon wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:30 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:08 am If Wetherholt plays from the get go this year, will he start off hot , so-so, or struggle ?
If JJ mirrors the 2024 start of Brewer rookie Jackson Chourio, he would struggle the first couple months acclimating to major league pitching. From June til end of season, Chourio batted over .300
finishing the year with an overall batting average of .275 , 21 HR, 22 SB in 148 games and
3rd place N.L.rookie of year. (Skenes was 1st place)
In Chourio’s case, early ‘chasing’ was an issue. Thus far JJ has not shown that tendency being quite disciplined at pitch selection.
Looking forward to JJ’s rookie year .

Always the Brewers for comps for this and that. The profiles of Chourio and JJ couldn't be more different. JJ has had equal numbers of SOs and BBs in both college and the minors, and his OBP was .467 in college and .418 in the minors. Chourio, by contrast, had 100 BBs and 258 Ks in the minors, with an OBP of .343. And both have slugged nearly the same in the minors at .487 for JJ and .483 for Chourio. Bad comp.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:20 am .280-.285+ BA
.355+ OB%
15-20 HR
20-30 SB's
.800+ OPS

ROY!

ramfandan wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 11:07 am

icon wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:30 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:08 am If Wetherholt plays from the get go this year, will he start off hot , so-so, or struggle ?
If JJ mirrors the 2024 start of Brewer rookie Jackson Chourio, he would struggle the first couple months acclimating to major league pitching. From June til end of season, Chourio batted over .300
finishing the year with an overall batting average of .275 , 21 HR, 22 SB in 148 games and
3rd place N.L.rookie of year. (Skenes was 1st place)
In Chourio’s case, early ‘chasing’ was an issue. Thus far JJ has not shown that tendency being quite disciplined at pitch selection.
Looking forward to JJ’s rookie year .

Always the Brewers for comps for this and that. The profiles of Chourio and JJ couldn't be more different. JJ has had equal numbers of SOs and BBs in both college and the minors, and his OBP was .467 in college and .418 in the minors. Chourio, by contrast, had 100 BBs and 258 Ks in the minors, with an OBP of .343. And both have slugged nearly the same in the minors at .487 for JJ and .483 for Chourio. Bad comp.

Selected Chourio as both were No.1 prospects on respective teams , in same division ,both similarly rated in Top 100 (Chourio rated 2nd overall in 2024 / JJ rated 5th overall in 2025 ) .

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 11:03 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 11:00 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:58 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:49 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:32 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:24 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:21 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:20 am .280-.285 BA
.355+ OB%
15-20 HR
20-30 SB's
.800+ OPS

ROY!

You need never get in my stash again sir. It obviously has an effect.

Would you believe me if I said I could actually be too low on BA, OB% and OPS?

Man that some praise. We are reaching territory that requires no injury and mucho luck. Now. Add a surprise performance- say Walker, then we are on to something.

No luck needed w/this kid BDog, he's going to be the "face of the franchise" for many years and could win batting titles!

No way w/J. Walker who I have no confidence in until he shows he can lay off sweeper/sliders out of the strike zone.

Ok then this simply comes down to one mitigating fact- injury. This includes minimal effects from the ankle biters and that nagging injuries turn chronic. Endurance and longevity depends on it.

Yes

All players have to stay healthy to reach their full potential.

You know- the foul ball off the foot, the hit by pitch, the ground ball bad hip off the wrists, naggers like that.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 12:29 pm

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 11:03 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 11:00 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:58 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:49 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:32 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:24 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:21 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:20 am .280-.285 BA
.355+ OB%
15-20 HR
20-30 SB's
.800+ OPS

ROY!

You need never get in my stash again sir. It obviously has an effect.

Would you believe me if I said I could actually be too low on BA, OB% and OPS?

Man that some praise. We are reaching territory that requires no injury and mucho luck. Now. Add a surprise performance- say Walker, then we are on to something.

No luck needed w/this kid BDog, he's going to be the "face of the franchise" for many years and could win batting titles!

No way w/J. Walker who I have no confidence in until he shows he can lay off sweeper/sliders out of the strike zone.

Ok then this simply comes down to one mitigating fact- injury. This includes minimal effects from the ankle biters and that nagging injuries turn chronic. Endurance and longevity depends on it.

Yes

All players have to stay healthy to reach their full potential.

You know- the foul ball off the foot, the hit by pitch, the ground ball bad hip off the wrists, naggers like that.

Daily aches and pains, remember them well.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 12:33 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 12:29 pm

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 11:03 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 11:00 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:58 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:49 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:32 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:24 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:21 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:20 am .280-.285 BA
.355+ OB%
15-20 HR
20-30 SB's
.800+ OPS

ROY!

You need never get in my stash again sir. It obviously has an effect.

Would you believe me if I said I could actually be too low on BA, OB% and OPS?

Man that some praise. We are reaching territory that requires no injury and mucho luck. Now. Add a surprise performance- say Walker, then we are on to something.

No luck needed w/this kid BDog, he's going to be the "face of the franchise" for many years and could win batting titles!

No way w/J. Walker who I have no confidence in until he shows he can lay off sweeper/sliders out of the strike zone.

Ok then this simply comes down to one mitigating fact- injury. This includes minimal effects from the ankle biters and that nagging injuries turn chronic. Endurance and longevity depends on it.

Yes

All players have to stay healthy to reach their full potential.

You know- the foul ball off the foot, the hit by pitch, the ground ball bad hip off the wrists, naggers like that.

Daily aches and pains, remember them well.

You won’t believe this, but I was a very active base runner, hence many slides. Always got a strawberry burn about the size of softball. Oozing sticking and I used to get fever with them. That strawberry was the reason I started going head first back in the seventies.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 12:39 pm

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 12:33 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 12:29 pm

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 11:03 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 11:00 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:58 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:49 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:32 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:24 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:21 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:20 am .280-.285 BA
.355+ OB%
15-20 HR
20-30 SB's
.800+ OPS

ROY!

You need never get in my stash again sir. It obviously has an effect.

Would you believe me if I said I could actually be too low on BA, OB% and OPS?

Man that some praise. We are reaching territory that requires no injury and mucho luck. Now. Add a surprise performance- say Walker, then we are on to something.

No luck needed w/this kid BDog, he's going to be the "face of the franchise" for many years and could win batting titles!

No way w/J. Walker who I have no confidence in until he shows he can lay off sweeper/sliders out of the strike zone.

Ok then this simply comes down to one mitigating fact- injury. This includes minimal effects from the ankle biters and that nagging injuries turn chronic. Endurance and longevity depends on it.

Yes

All players have to stay healthy to reach their full potential.

You know- the foul ball off the foot, the hit by pitch, the ground ball bad hip off the wrists, naggers like that.

Daily aches and pains, remember them well.

You won’t believe this, but I was a very active base runner, hence many slides. Always got a strawberry burn about the size of softball. Oozing sticking and I used to get fever with them. That strawberry was the reason I started going head first back in the seventies.

Head First

The Baby's/1978

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 12:43 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 12:39 pm

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 12:33 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 12:29 pm

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 11:03 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 11:00 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:58 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:49 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:32 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:24 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:21 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:20 am .280-.285 BA
.355+ OB%
15-20 HR
20-30 SB's
.800+ OPS

ROY!

You need never get in my stash again sir. It obviously has an effect.

Would you believe me if I said I could actually be too low on BA, OB% and OPS?

Man that some praise. We are reaching territory that requires no injury and mucho luck. Now. Add a surprise performance- say Walker, then we are on to something.

No luck needed w/this kid BDog, he's going to be the "face of the franchise" for many years and could win batting titles!

No way w/J. Walker who I have no confidence in until he shows he can lay off sweeper/sliders out of the strike zone.

Ok then this simply comes down to one mitigating fact- injury. This includes minimal effects from the ankle biters and that nagging injuries turn chronic. Endurance and longevity depends on it.

Yes

All players have to stay healthy to reach their full potential.

You know- the foul ball off the foot, the hit by pitch, the ground ball bad hip off the wrists, naggers like that.

Daily aches and pains, remember them well.

You won’t believe this, but I was a very active base runner, hence many slides. Always got a strawberry burn about the size of softball. Oozing sticking and I used to get fever with them. That strawberry was the reason I started going head first back in the seventies.

Head First

The Baby's/1978

John Waite. Also had Jonathan Cain after the first album.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 12:57 pm

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 12:43 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 12:39 pm

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 12:33 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 12:29 pm

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 11:03 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 11:00 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:58 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:49 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:32 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:24 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:21 am

You need never get in my stash again sir. It obviously has an effect.

Would you believe me if I said I could actually be too low on BA, OB% and OPS?

Man that some praise. We are reaching territory that requires no injury and mucho luck. Now. Add a surprise performance- say Walker, then we are on to something.

No luck needed w/this kid BDog, he's going to be the "face of the franchise" for many years and could win batting titles!

No way w/J. Walker who I have no confidence in until he shows he can lay off sweeper/sliders out of the strike zone.

Ok then this simply comes down to one mitigating fact- injury. This includes minimal effects from the ankle biters and that nagging injuries turn chronic. Endurance and longevity depends on it.

Yes

All players have to stay healthy to reach their full potential.

You know- the foul ball off the foot, the hit by pitch, the ground ball bad hip off the wrists, naggers like that.

Daily aches and pains, remember them well.

You won’t believe this, but I was a very active base runner, hence many slides. Always got a strawberry burn about the size of softball. Oozing sticking and I used to get fever with them. That strawberry was the reason I started going head first back in the seventies.

Head First

The Baby's/1978

John Waite. Also had Jonathan Cain after the first album.

After those head first slides you were......


(I'm) back on my feet again

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:20 am .280-.285+ BA
.355+ OB%
15-20 HR
20-30 SB's
.800+ OPS

ROY!

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 13:53 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:20 am .280-.285+ BA
.355+ OB%
15-20 HR
20-30 SB's
.800+ OPS

ROY!

And a GG ar 2B!
Bank it!!

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:46 am

Bushiro wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:43 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:21 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:20 am .280-.285 BA
.355+ OB%
15-20 HR
20-30 SB's
.800+ OPS

ROY!

You need never get in my stash again sir. It obviously has an effect.

I had some of the stash also...that's the kinda numbers he will put up...this kid was born to play baseball...great eye...great bat to ball skills...of course has to stay healthy

Good morning. You make an interesting point, at least to me. You say he has all these great attributes- do you think with computer assisted balls and strikes, that he may even hit better, never being robbed of strikes.

DewittDaman11 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 20:03 pm Excited to see all the agreement on JJ's on base ability, and wonder if all agree just starting him at leadoff is the thing to do. I think the kids a player, a competitor and winning ballplayer, and I personally think he will thrive being thrown right into the fire. Follow him in the lineup with Herrera and Burleson, and see what happens. Bottom line, it's gonna be his team, IMO, and if he can get all the other hitters to hit for each other, it will be the "start" of a special team.

Start adding in hitters like Baez, Bernal in late 2026, and Ortiz and possibly Rodriguez by 2027, and the Cardinals are back, baby!

DewittDaman11 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 20:03 pm Excited to see all the agreement on JJ's on base ability, and wonder if all agree just starting him at leadoff is the thing to do. I think the kids a player, a competitor and winning ballplayer, and I personally think he will thrive being thrown right into the fire. Follow him in the lineup with Herrera and Burleson, and see what happens. Bottom line, it's gonna be his team, IMO, and if he can get all the other hitters to hit for each other, it will be the "start" of a special team.

Start adding in hitters like Baez, Bernal in late 2026, and Ortiz and possibly Rodriguez by 2027, and the Cardinals are back, baby!