What's the deal on Nootbaar?

[Bomber1]

He should be dealt.
He is a yearly underachiever normally due to injury.
Last year he was reasonably healthy for once and did not produce.
Now he is hurt again so his trade value is in the dumper.
Might as well keep him and pray he finally does something.

Correct. Why do so many want to trade guys at their lowest possible value? We’re not going to get anything at all for him right now anyway. If by some small miracle he gets healthy and plays up to his supposed potential, he becomes more exponentially more valuable in several ways. You can always give him away a little later down the road if he doesn’t recover some value.

To be fair, often we want to do it because they won't trade them when their value is high. I wanted to trade Nootbaar 2 years ago. That seems like hindsight, so I will tell you, this would be a great time to trade Burleson, but they won't. You know when that will mentioned? When his value is lower. We shouldn't trade him now because ____________.

JMO- they shouldn’t trade Burleson now because, unlike Gorman, Walker, and Scott, Burleson has actually improved his offense each of the last 2 seasons. 1B is now open and I hope Burleson gets 1st shot.

[Talkin' Baseball]

He should be dealt.
He is a yearly underachiever normally due to injury.
Last year he was reasonably healthy for once and did not produce.
Now he is hurt again so his trade value is in the dumper.
Might as well keep him and pray he finally does something.

Correct. Why do so many want to trade guys at their lowest possible value? We’re not going to get anything at all for him right now anyway. If by some small miracle he gets healthy and plays up to his supposed potential, he becomes more exponentially more valuable in several ways. You can always give him away a little later down the road if he doesn’t recover some value.

To be fair, often we want to do it because they won't trade them when their value is high. I wanted to trade Nootbaar 2 years ago. That seems like hindsight, so I will tell you, this would be a great time to trade Burleson, but they won't. You know when that will mentioned? When his value is lower. We shouldn't trade him now because ____________.

JMO- they shouldn’t trade Burleson now because, unlike Gorman, Walker, and Scott, Burleson has actually improved his offense each of the last 2 seasons. 1B is now open and I hope Burleson gets 1st shot.

This. This exactly. We shouldn't trade him now because _____.

[rockondlouie]

Is he tradable in the off season? Or will he have to take up a spot in the Cardinals' outfield until he's proven healthy? IMO, there's only room for either Walker or Nootbaar for one corner outfield spot going into '26.

You've already done this thread topic. Several times. Including just a few days ago.

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[Cusecards]

He should be dealt.
He is a yearly underachiever normally due to injury.
Last year he was reasonably healthy for once and did not produce.
Now he is hurt again so his trade value is in the dumper.
Might as well keep him and pray he finally does something.

Correct. Why do so many want to trade guys at their lowest possible value? We’re not going to get anything at all for him right now anyway. If by some small miracle he gets healthy and plays up to his supposed potential, he becomes more exponentially more valuable in several ways. You can always give him away a little later down the road if he doesn’t recover some value.

Mostly for myself it falls under doing the same thing and expecting different results, fatigue.
It's not very smart but happens

I completely get that as I’m pretty tired of him too, and if we were on the verge of real contention, I’d say ship him out because it could risk a potentially good season. Seeing that is not the case at the moment, I think we can afford to wait until the next trade deadline and see if he surprises. Not like we have a Wetherholt-level OF prospect banging on the door right now.

Agree.
I have more fatigue with the single tool players
anyway. When they don't bring it they tend to lose games

I think he is an underachiever that can’t stay healthy. I see him as platoon OF.
Not a core player.
I would look to deal him but considering he is recovering from heel surgery I would wait.
He is not making that much money

[CorneliusWolfe]

He should be dealt.
He is a yearly underachiever normally due to injury.
Last year he was reasonably healthy for once and did not produce.
Now he is hurt again so his trade value is in the dumper.
Might as well keep him and pray he finally does something.

Correct. Why do so many want to trade guys at their lowest possible value? We’re not going to get anything at all for him right now anyway. If by some small miracle he gets healthy and plays up to his supposed potential, he becomes more exponentially more valuable in several ways. You can always give him away a little later down the road if he doesn’t recover some value.

To be fair, often we want to do it because they won't trade them when their value is high. I wanted to trade Nootbaar 2 years ago. That seems like hindsight, so I will tell you, this would be a great time to trade Burleson, but they won't. You know when that will mentioned? When his value is lower. We shouldn't trade him now because ____________.

You make great points. I always thought Noot was overrated because his value was always based on peripherals that inferred he’d be good…someday, but mainly he couldn’t stay healthy and I never trust an oft-injured player.

As far as Burleson, I couldn’t agree more. You won’t find many that agree though. Fans are so desperate for a star they’ve fooled themselves into thinking he’s one.

[Talkin' Baseball]

He should be dealt.
He is a yearly underachiever normally due to injury.
Last year he was reasonably healthy for once and did not produce.
Now he is hurt again so his trade value is in the dumper.
Might as well keep him and pray he finally does something.

Correct. Why do so many want to trade guys at their lowest possible value? We’re not going to get anything at all for him right now anyway. If by some small miracle he gets healthy and plays up to his supposed potential, he becomes more exponentially more valuable in several ways. You can always give him away a little later down the road if he doesn’t recover some value.

To be fair, often we want to do it because they won't trade them when their value is high. I wanted to trade Nootbaar 2 years ago. That seems like hindsight, so I will tell you, this would be a great time to trade Burleson, but they won't. You know when that will mentioned? When his value is lower. We shouldn't trade him now because ____________.

You make great points. I always thought Noot was overrated because his value was always based on peripherals that inferred he’d be good…someday, but mainly he couldn’t stay healthy and I never trust an oft-injured player.

As far as Burleson, I couldn’t agree more. You won’t find many that agree though. Fans are so desperate for a star they’ve fooled themselves into thinking he’s one.

It's great to have the peripherals, but at some point a player has to pass the eye test. By the second arb year if you have to dig and explain to me why a player is actually good, I'm not listening.

[Absolut]

He’s not productive.

[JuanAgosto]

Hes a guy who flashes talent. Then spends a lot of time on the IL. He has a unique name and a cheesy personality. That about covers it.