The '26 Cardinals could be better than the '25 Cardinals were, if

[Shady]

Bloom can keep Donovan while getting a really productive outfielder to help out. Bloom has made some good trades and signings, so far. The trade chips available, beyond Donovan, might just get the needed outfielder to make the '26 team very competitive. Between Romero, Nootbaar, Crooks, Arenado and even Gorman. That valuable outfielder could be had without sacrificing Donovan. For '26 and beyond. A big part of my '26 possibilities optimism over '25 is the potential improvements, overall, to the stating pitching rotation than Bloom has put in place.

[Mort Gage]

Bloom can keep Donovan while getting a really productive outfielder to help out. Bloom has made some good trades and signings, so far. The trade chips available, beyond Donovan, might just get the needed outfielder to make the '26 team pretty competitive. Between Romero, Nootbaar, Crooks, Arenado and even Gorman. That valuable outfielder could be had without sacrificing Donovan. For '26 and beyond.

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You could have bumped the thread you started last night. Or tried something novel. And Burleson+ would be a good trade chip to get said OF.

[craviduce]

Bloom can keep Donovan while getting a really productive outfielder to help out. Bloom has made some good trades and signings, so far. The trade chips available, beyond Donovan, might just get the needed outfielder to make the '26 team pretty competitive. Between Romero, Nootbaar, Crooks, Arenado and even Gorman. That valuable outfielder could be had without sacrificing Donovan. For '26 and beyond.

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You could have bumped the thread you started last night. Or tried something novel. And Burleson+ would be a good trade chip to get said OF.

It really would be a good trade. It would seriously help the reset, and make competing in 2027 a reality. Having Benge and Wetherholt is much better than just having Wetherholt. It's highly unlikely that Burleson figures into the plans for 2028 anyways. 2 WAR player costing more and more, his value will never be higher than now.

People want to win sooner rather than later, well this scenario helps put 2027 into play.

[Shady]

Bloom can keep Donovan while getting a really productive outfielder to help out. Bloom has made some good trades and signings, so far. The trade chips available, beyond Donovan, might just get the needed outfielder to make the '26 team pretty competitive. Between Romero, Nootbaar, Crooks, Arenado and even Gorman. That valuable outfielder could be had without sacrificing Donovan. For '26 and beyond.

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You could have bumped the thread you started last night. Or tried something novel. And Burleson+ would be a good trade chip to get said OF.

It really would be a good trade. It would seriously help the reset, and make competing in 2027 a reality. Having Benge and Wetherholt is much better than just having Wetherholt. It's highly unlikely that Burleson figures into the plans for 2028 anyways. 2 WAR player costing more and more, his value will never be higher than now.

People want to win sooner rather than later, well this scenario helps put 2027 into play.

Your continuous obsession, advocating getting rid of Burleson, now that he's the 1B is beyond Looney Tunes. Why not try to include Gorman in a trade, possibly with Romero, for a young, talented outfielder, (possibly Benge) instead of Burleson? You are way off course with your bloviating about '26. Bloom and Marmol have higher expectations than you do.

[Ozziesfan41]

Bloom can keep Donovan while getting a really productive outfielder to help out. Bloom has made some good trades and signings, so far. The trade chips available, beyond Donovan, might just get the needed outfielder to make the '26 team pretty competitive. Between Romero, Nootbaar, Crooks, Arenado and even Gorman. That valuable outfielder could be had without sacrificing Donovan. For '26 and beyond.

viewtopic.php?t=1518844

You could have bumped the thread you started last night. Or tried something novel. And Burleson+ would be a good trade chip to get said OF.

It really would be a good trade. It would seriously help the reset, and make competing in 2027 a reality. Having Benge and Wetherholt is much better than just having Wetherholt. It's highly unlikely that Burleson figures into the plans for 2028 anyways. 2 WAR player costing more and more, his value will never be higher than now.

People want to win sooner rather than later, well this scenario helps put 2027 into play.

Your continuous advocating of getting rid of Burleson obsession, now that he's the 1B is beyond Looney Tunes. Why not try to include Gorman in a trade for a young, talented outfielder, (possibly Benge) instead of Burleson?

Gorman sucks other teams know that cardinals wouldn’t get anything more than a yepez like lottery ticket for him zero chance he actually gets a decent player

[Mort Gage]

Bloom can keep Donovan while getting a really productive outfielder to help out. Bloom has made some good trades and signings, so far. The trade chips available, beyond Donovan, might just get the needed outfielder to make the '26 team pretty competitive. Between Romero, Nootbaar, Crooks, Arenado and even Gorman. That valuable outfielder could be had without sacrificing Donovan. For '26 and beyond.

viewtopic.php?t=1518844

You could have bumped the thread you started last night. Or tried something novel. And Burleson+ would be a good trade chip to get said OF.

It really would be a good trade. It would seriously help the reset, and make competing in 2027 a reality. Having Benge and Wetherholt is much better than just having Wetherholt. It's highly unlikely that Burleson figures into the plans for 2028 anyways. 2 WAR player costing more and more, his value will never be higher than now.

People want to win sooner rather than later, well this scenario helps put 2027 into play.

I'm all for that Benge trade. Cash out Burleson to a LH bat needy team while his value is likely at its peak. If not Burleson is an OK placeholder for a year or two until they are ready to contend.

[craviduce]

Bloom can keep Donovan while getting a really productive outfielder to help out. Bloom has made some good trades and signings, so far. The trade chips available, beyond Donovan, might just get the needed outfielder to make the '26 team pretty competitive. Between Romero, Nootbaar, Crooks, Arenado and even Gorman. That valuable outfielder could be had without sacrificing Donovan. For '26 and beyond.

viewtopic.php?t=1518844

You could have bumped the thread you started last night. Or tried something novel. And Burleson+ would be a good trade chip to get said OF.

It really would be a good trade. It would seriously help the reset, and make competing in 2027 a reality. Having Benge and Wetherholt is much better than just having Wetherholt. It's highly unlikely that Burleson figures into the plans for 2028 anyways. 2 WAR player costing more and more, his value will never be higher than now.

People want to win sooner rather than later, well this scenario helps put 2027 into play.

And then....go forward with trading Donovan. Get a player like Eldridge from SF, we don't need 2 players at or around 50 Future Value in return for Donovan. Get 1 player between 60 Future Value. Plug him at 1B.

That would make 3 young players (Wetherholt, Benge, Eldridge with 6 years of control that becomes your Core overnight.

Most would love that...you know "improving the future of the team".

From there you can start trading LHP pitching assets in 2027 to get complimentary players who can yield 2-3 WAR apiece. Or go really HAM, and get 1 major star in a trade.

There's so many possibilities. It's truly exciting. Help the OF and 1B by trading two good players whose value will never be higher, and won't figure into the 2028 plans.

[NYCardsFan]

Bloom can keep Donovan while getting a really productive outfielder to help out. Bloom has made some good trades and signings, so far. The trade chips available, beyond Donovan, might just get the needed outfielder to make the '26 team very competitive. Between Romero, Nootbaar, Crooks, Arenado and even Gorman. That valuable outfielder could be had without sacrificing Donovan. For '26 and beyond. A big part of my '26 possibilities optimism over '25 is the potential improvements, overall, to the stating pitching rotation than Bloom has put in place.

You’ve already done this same OP/thread. Numerous times.

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[Shady]

Bloom can keep Donovan while getting a really productive outfielder to help out. Bloom has made some good trades and signings, so far. The trade chips available, beyond Donovan, might just get the needed outfielder to make the '26 team pretty competitive. Between Romero, Nootbaar, Crooks, Arenado and even Gorman. That valuable outfielder could be had without sacrificing Donovan. For '26 and beyond.

viewtopic.php?t=1518844

You could have bumped the thread you started last night. Or tried something novel. And Burleson+ would be a good trade chip to get said OF.

It really would be a good trade. It would seriously help the reset, and make competing in 2027 a reality. Having Benge and Wetherholt is much better than just having Wetherholt. It's highly unlikely that Burleson figures into the plans for 2028 anyways. 2 WAR player costing more and more, his value will never be higher than now.

People want to win sooner rather than later, well this scenario helps put 2027 into play.

Your continuous advocating of getting rid of Burleson obsession, now that he's the 1B is beyond Looney Tunes. Why not try to include Gorman in a trade for a young, talented outfielder, (possibly Benge) instead of Burleson?

Gorman sucks other teams know that cardinals wouldn’t get anything more than a yepez like lottery ticket for him zero chance he actually gets a decent player

But craviduce seems to feel Gorman should be at 1B for the Cardinals in '26, instead of Burleson. Go figure that one out.

[scoutyjones2]

Bloom can keep Donovan while getting a really productive outfielder to help out. Bloom has made some good trades and signings, so far. The trade chips available, beyond Donovan, might just get the needed outfielder to make the '26 team very competitive. Between Romero, Nootbaar, Crooks, Arenado and even Gorman. That valuable outfielder could be had without sacrificing Donovan. For '26 and beyond. A big part of my '26 possibilities optimism over '25 is the potential improvements, overall, to the stating pitching rotation than Bloom has put in place.

Shut up Bobo

[imetsatchelpaige]

Bloom can keep Donovan while getting a really productive outfielder to help out. Bloom has made some good trades and signings, so far. The trade chips available, beyond Donovan, might just get the needed outfielder to make the '26 team pretty competitive. Between Romero, Nootbaar, Crooks, Arenado and even Gorman. That valuable outfielder could be had without sacrificing Donovan. For '26 and beyond.

viewtopic.php?t=1518844

You could have bumped the thread you started last night. Or tried something novel. And Burleson+ would be a good trade chip to get said OF.

It really would be a good trade. It would seriously help the reset, and make competing in 2027 a reality. Having Benge and Wetherholt is much better than just having Wetherholt. It's highly unlikely that Burleson figures into the plans for 2028 anyways. 2 WAR player costing more and more, his value will never be higher than now.

People want to win sooner rather than later, well this scenario helps put 2027 into play.

Your continuous obsession, advocating getting rid of Burleson, now that he's the 1B is beyond Looney Tunes. Why not try to include Gorman in a trade, possibly with Romero, for a young, talented outfielder, (possibly Benge) instead of Burleson? You are way off course with your bloviating about '26. Bloom and Marmol have higher expectations than you do.

You edited a three line post five times.
Unless you have previously exceed it--and you well may have--that is a record.
Hold your head high!

[craviduce]

Future Lineup in 2027/28

1. Wetherholt, 2B
2. Baez, RF
3. Eldridge, 1B
4. Rodriguez, 3B
5. Herrera, DH
6. Benge, LF
7. Winn, SS
8. Bernal, C
9. VS2 or better (preferably), CF

[imetsatchelpaige]

Bloom can keep Donovan while getting a really productive outfielder to help out. Bloom has made some good trades and signings, so far. The trade chips available, beyond Donovan, might just get the needed outfielder to make the '26 team very competitive. Between Romero, Nootbaar, Crooks, Arenado and even Gorman. That valuable outfielder could be had without sacrificing Donovan. For '26 and beyond. A big part of my '26 possibilities optimism over '25 is the potential improvements, overall, to the stating pitching rotation than Bloom has put in place.

You’ve already done this same OP/thread. Numerous times.

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viewtopic.php?t=1518788
viewtopic.php?t=1518661
viewtopic.php?t=1518571
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In his defense, it was actually five different voices in his head.
It's the holidays. Give them a break.

[Goldfan]

World Series

O’Farrel
Bottomly
Hornsby

Haines
Alexander.

[craviduce]

Then if you don't want Benge for Burleson....how about Burleson for Jace LaViolette? Maybe throw in a "Catcher"?

[zuck698]

Bloom can keep Donovan while getting a really productive outfielder to help out. Bloom has made some good trades and signings, so far. The trade chips available, beyond Donovan, might just get the needed outfielder to make the '26 team very competitive. Between Romero, Nootbaar, Crooks, Arenado and even Gorman. That valuable outfielder could be had without sacrificing Donovan. For '26 and beyond. A big part of my '26 possibilities optimism over '25 is the potential improvements, overall, to the stating pitching rotation than Bloom has put in place.

You’ve already done this same OP/thread. Numerous times.

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viewtopic.php?t=1518788
viewtopic.php?t=1518661
viewtopic.php?t=1518571
viewtopic.php?t=1518479

Be careful NYCardsFan. His protector Cards64 will be along any minute now to scold you for pointing this out to Shady. He likes Shady's posting habits.

I am all for trading the Utility Silver Slugger for a decent prospect. He is slow, poor defensively, and hits adequately. Not part of the long-term future.