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Re: Mike Shildt to retire?
Posted: 13 Oct 2025 12:28 pm
by 82birds
C-Unit wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 12:20 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 12:14 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 11:33 am
2ninr wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 11:27 am
OldRed wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 11:21 am
This is very surprising to me.
Why
He had two years left on his contract, with a very good team.
I was surprised when he and the Cardinals parted ways out of the blue.
He does appear to be a very smart baseball man who can get his teams playing good fundamental baseball and get all the stars to pull in the same direction (like Larussa did). However, with the way his Cardinal tenure ended and now this, I wonder if there are aspects about him or his personality that we don't have the full details of from where we sit (and that's true for any of these personnel).
As has been expressed already in the thread, I hope the best for his health and hope that is not a reason.
same here
Re: Mike Shildt to retire?
Posted: 13 Oct 2025 12:31 pm
by 2ninr
C-Unit wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 12:20 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 12:14 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 11:33 am
2ninr wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 11:27 am
OldRed wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 11:21 am
This is very surprising to me.
Why
He had two years left on his contract, with a very good team.
I was surprised when he and the Cardinals parted ways out of the blue.
He does appear to be a very smart baseball man who can get his teams playing good fundamental baseball and get all the stars to pull in the same direction (like Larussa did). However, with the way his Cardinal tenure ended and now this, I wonder if there are aspects about him or his personality that we don't have the full details of from where we sit (and that's true for any of these personnel).
As has been expressed already in the thread, I hope the best for his health and hope that is not a reason.
He's basically saying burnout. Sounds stress related. Best of luck to him
Re: Mike Shildt to retire?
Posted: 13 Oct 2025 12:48 pm
by Pura Vida
2ninr wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 12:31 pm
C-Unit wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 12:20 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 12:14 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 11:33 am
2ninr wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 11:27 am
OldRed wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 11:21 am
This is very surprising to me.
Why
He had two years left on his contract, with a very good team.
I was surprised when he and the Cardinals parted ways out of the blue.
He does appear to be a very smart baseball man who can get his teams playing good fundamental baseball and get all the stars to pull in the same direction (like Larussa did). However, with the way his Cardinal tenure ended and now this, I wonder if there are aspects about him or his personality that we don't have the full details of from where we sit (and that's true for any of these personnel).
As has been expressed already in the thread, I hope the best for his health and hope that is not a reason.
He's basically saying burnout. Sounds stress related. Best of luck to him
Seems like he needs a break, yet he is only 57. The article said he is retiring as the SD manager.
Re: Mike Shildt to retire?
Posted: 13 Oct 2025 12:49 pm
by An Old Friend
C-Unit wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 12:20 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 12:14 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 11:33 am
2ninr wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 11:27 am
OldRed wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 11:21 am
This is very surprising to me.
Why
He had two years left on his contract, with a very good team.
I was surprised when he and the Cardinals parted ways out of the blue.
He does appear to be a very smart baseball man who can get his teams playing good fundamental baseball and get all the stars to pull in the same direction (like Larussa did). However, with the way his Cardinal tenure ended and now this, I wonder if there are aspects about him or his personality that we don't have the full details of from where we sit (and that's true for any of these personnel).
As has been expressed already in the thread, I hope the best for his health and hope that is not a reason.
Considering he very candidly cited his health, I think it’s safe to say his health is the primary reason.
Re: Mike Shildt to retire?
Posted: 13 Oct 2025 12:52 pm
by russellhammond
Philosophical differences
Re: Mike Shildt to retire?
Posted: 13 Oct 2025 13:19 pm
by KeeptheRamsinSTL
There were rumors earlier this year that Shildt had problems with president of baseball operations A.J. Preller and at least some of his coaching staff.
From mlbtraderumors.com - "Per Bob Nightengale of USA Today, Shildt is not necessarily retiring from baseball altogether. Rather, he is simply not looking to continue managing in the immediate future. When asked about the possibility, Shildt said, “Not at the moment. I need a break and take care of myself.” That’s not a definitive declaration that he’ll return to the dugout at some point, but Shildt left the door open for potential future opportunities. "
Re: Mike Shildt to retire?
Posted: 13 Oct 2025 14:08 pm
by hmoss859
Speculation in San Diego is it was a mutual parting of the way, but Shildt got the option to "retire" and also got a nice buyout.
Evidently, he butted heads with analytics department, but he got to call his shot as to why he left.
Good baseball man and probably needed to step away from a bit.
I suspect he will manage again one day.
Re: Mike Shildt to retire?
Posted: 13 Oct 2025 14:14 pm
by Cranny
Very capable manager, but also a very emotional man. Walking away from it for awhile is best for him.
Re: Mike Shildt to retire?
Posted: 13 Oct 2025 14:15 pm
by Carp4Cy
Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 11:33 am
2ninr wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 11:27 am
OldRed wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 11:21 am
This is very surprising to me.
Why
He had two years left on his contract, with a very good team.
A team that will never get over the top. He probably wants to come back as a dodger so he actually can win.
Re: Mike Shildt to retire?
Posted: 13 Oct 2025 14:38 pm
by blackinkbiz
hmoss859 wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 14:08 pm
Speculation in San Diego is it was a mutual parting of the way, but Shildt got the option to "retire" and also got a nice buyout.
Evidently, he butted heads with analytics department, but he got to call his shot as to why he left.
Good baseball man and probably needed to step away from a bit.
I suspect he will manage again one day.
BK and Ferrario reported today that the narratives coming from the Pads org were almost identical to those surrounding his departure from the Cards. Butting heads with Pres of Baseball ops and very "strained" relationships with coaching staff.
Maybe this one wasn't on Mo so much after all. Of course, I never thought getting rid of Schilty was the error; it was replacing him with a 0-experience dimwitt.
Re: Mike Shildt to retire?
Posted: 13 Oct 2025 14:52 pm
by ramfandan
Pura Vida wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 12:48 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 12:31 pm
C-Unit wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 12:20 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 12:14 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 11:33 am
2ninr wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 11:27 am
OldRed wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 11:21 am
This is very surprising to me.
Why
He had two years left on his contract, with a very good team.
I was surprised when he and the Cardinals parted ways out of the blue.
He does appear to be a very smart baseball man who can get his teams playing good fundamental baseball and get all the stars to pull in the same direction (like Larussa did). However, with the way his Cardinal tenure ended and now this, I wonder if there are aspects about him or his personality that we don't have the full details of from where we sit (and that's true for any of these personnel).
As has been expressed already in the thread, I hope the best for his health and hope that is not a reason.
He's basically saying burnout. Sounds stress related. Best of luck to him
Seems like he needs a break, yet he is only 57. The article said he is retiring as the SD manager.
With the salary he has made the past several years, it is not necessary that he manages again. He could serve in other baseball roles without the daily stress of managing.
Re: Mike Shildt to retire?
Posted: 13 Oct 2025 15:08 pm
by Basil Shabazz
hmoss859 wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 14:08 pm
Speculation in San Diego is it was a mutual parting of the way, but Shildt got the option to "retire" and also got a nice buyout.
I believe this is probably the truth. He wouldn't walk away from $8m. But I think he would settle for 1/2 to 2/3 of that to be able to set the narrative in his favor.
Re: Mike Shildt to retire?
Posted: 13 Oct 2025 15:33 pm
by dugoutrex
Mikey was fired - poor baby!
Re: Mike Shildt to retire?
Posted: 13 Oct 2025 15:57 pm
by sdaltons
dugoutrex wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 15:33 pm
Mikey was fired - poor baby!
You just really aren't the brightest, are you?
Re: Mike Shildt to retire?
Posted: 13 Oct 2025 16:24 pm
by ramfandan
Here’s a scenario.. 2027 Yadi is hired as Cardinal manager and wants veteran bench coach so offers that job to Schildt.
Good fundamental guy for the young guys. Be hilarious!
Won’t happen but Schildt would get his payback on Mo.
Re: Mike Shildt to retire?
Posted: 13 Oct 2025 16:35 pm
by Alex Reyes Cy Young
KeeptheRamsinSTL wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 13:19 pm
There were rumors earlier this year that Shildt had problems with president of baseball operations A.J. Preller and at least some of his coaching staff.
From mlbtraderumors.com - "Per Bob Nightengale of USA Today, Shildt is not necessarily retiring from baseball altogether. Rather, he is simply not looking to continue managing in the immediate future. When asked about the possibility, Shildt said, “Not at the moment. I need a break and take care of myself.” That’s not a definitive declaration that he’ll return to the dugout at some point, but Shildt left the door open for potential future opportunities. "
This is interesting.