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Re: Shildt doing less with more

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 10:35 am
by icon
ScotchMIrish wrote: 03 Oct 2025 06:35 am Inherited great rosters both in St Louis and San Diego. 0-5 in the playoffs.
Come on. The Cubs are just a better team and they were playing at home all three games.

Re: Shildt doing less with more

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 10:51 am
by AtillaTheBlue1
ScotchMIrish wrote: 03 Oct 2025 06:35 am Inherited great rosters both in St Louis and San Diego. 0-5 in the playoffs.
lol, where did he touch you????

Re: Shildt doing less with more

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 10:54 am
by dugoutrex
poor Mikey

Re: Shildt doing less with more

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 10:58 am
by sdaltons
It'll take Oli another 6-8 years to get 5 playoff games under his belt.

Re: Shildt doing less with more

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 11:23 am
by Quincy Varnish
ScotchMIrish wrote: 03 Oct 2025 09:05 am
12xu wrote: 03 Oct 2025 07:30 am The Padres did not lose the playoff to the cubs because of Shildt. He handled his pitching staff well, and they were superb, holding the cubs to 6 runs in 3 games. He played the best lineup he had available.

The Padres lost the series primarily due to their first 3 batters in the lineup not coming thru. Tatis was 1 for 12, Arraez 2 for 11, Machado 1 for 10. All of their hits came in game 2, which the Padres won.
5 playoffs. 0 wins. He inherited fantastic veteran rosters twice and can't win when it counts.
This may have already been pointed out, but the 2019 NLDS happened.

Re: Shildt doing less with more

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 11:31 am
by NYCardsFan
Quincy Varnish wrote: 03 Oct 2025 11:23 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 03 Oct 2025 09:05 am
12xu wrote: 03 Oct 2025 07:30 am The Padres did not lose the playoff to the cubs because of Shildt. He handled his pitching staff well, and they were superb, holding the cubs to 6 runs in 3 games. He played the best lineup he had available.

The Padres lost the series primarily due to their first 3 batters in the lineup not coming thru. Tatis was 1 for 12, Arraez 2 for 11, Machado 1 for 10. All of their hits came in game 2, which the Padres won.
5 playoffs. 0 wins. He inherited fantastic veteran rosters twice and can't win when it counts.
This may have already been pointed out, but the 2019 NLDS happened.
Randy Arozarena can confirm:

Disclaimer: The video above is hosted on Youtube, and has not be reviewed by the staff of the Post-Dispatch.

Re: Shildt doing less with more

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 11:57 am
by ecleme22
ScotchMIrish wrote: 03 Oct 2025 06:35 am Inherited great rosters both in St Louis and San Diego. 0-5 in the playoffs.
I find it funny Scotch understands the concept of inheriting a solid roster except when it comes to Matheny.

Re: Shildt doing less with more

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 12:05 pm
by Bomber1
ScotchMIrish wrote: 03 Oct 2025 09:05 am
12xu wrote: 03 Oct 2025 07:30 am The Padres did not lose the playoff to the cubs because of Shildt. He handled his pitching staff well, and they were superb, holding the cubs to 6 runs in 3 games. He played the best lineup he had available.

The Padres lost the series primarily due to their first 3 batters in the lineup not coming thru. Tatis was 1 for 12, Arraez 2 for 11, Machado 1 for 10. All of their hits came in game 2, which the Padres won.
5 playoffs. 0 wins. He inherited fantastic veteran rosters twice and can't win when it counts.
The Cardinals missed the playoffs in 2016, 2017, 2018.
Shildt took over in mid-2018.

You claim “he inherited a fantastic veteran roster” in 2018?

Ok.

Re: Shildt doing less with more

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 12:06 pm
by Bomber1
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Oct 2025 11:57 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 03 Oct 2025 06:35 am Inherited great rosters both in St Louis and San Diego. 0-5 in the playoffs.
I find it funny Scotch understands the concept of inheriting a solid roster except when it comes to Matheny.
Well played and true.

Re: Shildt doing less with more

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 12:20 pm
by Ozziesfan41
Bomber1 wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:05 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 03 Oct 2025 09:05 am
12xu wrote: 03 Oct 2025 07:30 am The Padres did not lose the playoff to the cubs because of Shildt. He handled his pitching staff well, and they were superb, holding the cubs to 6 runs in 3 games. He played the best lineup he had available.

The Padres lost the series primarily due to their first 3 batters in the lineup not coming thru. Tatis was 1 for 12, Arraez 2 for 11, Machado 1 for 10. All of their hits came in game 2, which the Padres won.
5 playoffs. 0 wins. He inherited fantastic veteran rosters twice and can't win when it counts.
The Cardinals missed the playoffs in 2016, 2017, 2018.
Shildt took over in mid-2018.

You claim “he inherited a fantastic veteran roster” in 2018?

Ok.
That’s a good point

Re: Shildt doing less with more

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 12:26 pm
by TopofthePerch
I have yet to see a manager throw a pitch or swing a bat in a game. Players play and execute. This obsession with managers and the outcome of games is wonky. When the Tigers folded against the Cardinals in 2006 the manager wasn't out there throwing the ball all over the place.

Re: Shildt doing less with more

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 12:45 pm
by ScotchMIrish
icon wrote: 03 Oct 2025 10:35 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 03 Oct 2025 06:35 am Inherited great rosters both in St Louis and San Diego. 0-5 in the playoffs.
Come on. The Cubs are just a better team and they were playing at home all three games.
What got him fired in St Louis reportedly was going on a local sports talk radio show and saying he did as well as could be expected given the lack of talent on the team. That's still the excuse?

San Diego's payroll is higher than the Cubs.

Re: Shildt doing less with more

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 13:42 pm
by icon
ScotchMIrish wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:45 pm
icon wrote: 03 Oct 2025 10:35 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 03 Oct 2025 06:35 am Inherited great rosters both in St Louis and San Diego. 0-5 in the playoffs.
Come on. The Cubs are just a better team and they were playing at home all three games.
What got him fired in St Louis reportedly was going on a local sports talk radio show and saying he did as well as could be expected given the lack of talent on the team. That's still the excuse?

San Diego's payroll is higher than the Cubs.
Blaming the manager when his team's biggest hitters flunked out is evidence of an anti-Shildt bias. The Padres won 1 of 3 on the road against a favored team. About what would be expected.

Re: Shildt doing less with more

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 14:11 pm
by Ozziesfan41
TopofthePerch wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:26 pm I have yet to see a manager throw a pitch or swing a bat in a game. Players play and execute. This obsession with managers and the outcome of games is wonky. When the Tigers folded against the Cardinals in 2006 the manager wasn't out there throwing the ball all over the place.
Yea it’s stupid all these Teams that fire managers I guess they don’t understand managers don’t matter someone should probably tell the players managers don’t matter since they think they do also

Re: Shildt doing less with more

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 14:30 pm
by No-Mo-Mo
ScotchMIrish wrote: 03 Oct 2025 06:35 am Inherited great rosters both in St Louis and San Diego. 0-5 in the playoffs.
It's everything. Some based on manager moves, but usually it just comes down the little things, luck, two out hitting, execution, umpire balls/strike calls which can change at bats, etc. He put the best team out there he had available.

Re: Shildt doing less with more

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 14:32 pm
by dugoutrex
icon wrote: 03 Oct 2025 13:42 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:45 pm
icon wrote: 03 Oct 2025 10:35 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 03 Oct 2025 06:35 am Inherited great rosters both in St Louis and San Diego. 0-5 in the playoffs.
Come on. The Cubs are just a better team and they were playing at home all three games.
What got him fired in St Louis reportedly was going on a local sports talk radio show and saying he did as well as could be expected given the lack of talent on the team. That's still the excuse?

San Diego's payroll is higher than the Cubs.
Blaming the manager when his team's biggest hitters flunked out is evidence of an anti-Shildt bias. The Padres won 1 of 3 on the road against a favored team. About what would be expected.
about what I expected too - although I was hoping the Scrubs would sweep 'em