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Re: What is it with Gorman

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 19:44 pm
by Youboughtit
ScotchMIrish wrote: 01 Sep 2025 19:15 pm He is a low batting average hitter who strikes out a lot and hits 20 home runs a year.

That's who he is.
Yes. They were hoping for 35/100 as a DH but he’s not that guy

Re: What is it with Gorman

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 19:56 pm
by ScotchMIrish
Youboughtit wrote: 01 Sep 2025 19:44 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 01 Sep 2025 19:15 pm He is a low batting average hitter who strikes out a lot and hits 20 home runs a year.

That's who he is.
Yes. They were hoping for 35/100 as a DH but he’s not that guy
Most of the time hope is not a good strategy.

Re: What is it with Gorman

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 20:00 pm
by Youboughtit
ScotchMIrish wrote: 01 Sep 2025 19:56 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 01 Sep 2025 19:44 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 01 Sep 2025 19:15 pm He is a low batting average hitter who strikes out a lot and hits 20 home runs a year.

That's who he is.
Yes. They were hoping for 35/100 as a DH but he’s not that guy
Most of the time hope is not a good strategy.
When you won’t sign star FA that’s what you’re dependent on. Finding a Alber Pujols. It just seems not happens 2X in 100 years. Musial and Pujols

Re: What is it with Gorman

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 20:15 pm
by TraveledLessRoad
He's far from irreplaceable, but he offers something no one else on this team does...raw. power. In the "right" lineup he could be an asset. But, you have to be comfortable with a ton of strikeouts and considerable dry-spells. But, I do believe across 162 with full playing time, he'd put up 30-35 home runs, easy.

Re: What is it with Gorman

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 20:23 pm
by icon
TraveledLessRoad wrote: 01 Sep 2025 20:15 pm He's far from irreplaceable, but he offers something no one else on this team does...raw. power. In the "right" lineup he could be an asset. But, you have to be comfortable with a ton of strikeouts and considerable dry-spells. But, I do believe across 162 with full playing time, he'd put up 30-35 home runs, easy.
Melville, is that you?

Re: What is it with Gorman

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 20:24 pm
by IndCard75
We will have to trade for pitching in the offseason. If him or Walker or both is what we have to trade to get then you trade them. If we can’t get good pitching for them then Gorman can back up 3B 2B 1B DH next year. Walker has another minor league option. Personally I would start him in AAA next year. When he hits ops of over 800 at AAA consistently then bring him up or trade him. Jmo

Re: What is it with Gorman

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 20:24 pm
by Ozziesfan41
icon wrote: 01 Sep 2025 20:23 pm
TraveledLessRoad wrote: 01 Sep 2025 20:15 pm He's far from irreplaceable, but he offers something no one else on this team does...raw. power. In the "right" lineup he could be an asset. But, you have to be comfortable with a ton of strikeouts and considerable dry-spells. But, I do believe across 162 with full playing time, he'd put up 30-35 home runs, easy.
Melville, is that you?
lol

Re: What is it with Gorman

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 20:31 pm
by TraveledLessRoad
I don't get it. Did this come off as something he would post? I thought it seemed sensical. Sorry, cool crowd

Re: What is it with Gorman

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 20:37 pm
by rightthinker4
ScotchMIrish wrote: 01 Sep 2025 19:15 pm He is a low batting average hitter who strikes out a lot and hits 20 home runs a year.

That's who he is.
If he hit 40 HR’s a year that would be different.

Re: What is it with Gorman

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 20:41 pm
by ScotchMIrish
rightthinker4 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 20:37 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 01 Sep 2025 19:15 pm He is a low batting average hitter who strikes out a lot and hits 20 home runs a year.

That's who he is.
If he hit 40 HR’s a year that would be different.
True.

Re: What is it with Gorman

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 20:54 pm
by Braund241
imadangman wrote: 01 Sep 2025 17:46 pm Every time he has a hot couple games everyone comes out to say how we just can't get rid of him, he's on the edge.

What is it now? Today 0-4 with 3 K's puts him down to a .214 avg .709 ops. Yes I see the walk rate. I find myself saying (especially when I wear my Gorman apologist hat) that every player not named Albert Pujols is going to get their numbers in streaks.

Let's just take the pulse today, is Gorman still irreplaceable? He very well could be around next year to show us another year, since we are going to need to fill out a roster.

I just don't see how, outside of a potential career year, most of his seasons don't end up around a similar .210-.230 BA with 20-25 homers, 30 on the high side. Injury prone and inconsistent power. Where have we seen that before?

Would love to be proven wrong. Of course at 2nd base his power provides some value, and he for sure plays a better 2nd base than he does 3rd base.
Both are really bad. Really bad. I mean really bad. Sports Illustrated just had a great article about how bad this organization is. Much worse than most of you clown fans think. They said a good team might want 1 or two players. They wouldn’t even say who. Other than that, they are a decade away, with a total rebuild. I’ve only been saying this for seven-eight years now. Mo destroyed this organization.

Re: What is it with Gorman

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 08:34 am
by dugoutrex
ME ville calls him a unicorn

Re: What is it with Gorman

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 08:57 am
by rockondlouie
The key to making in MLB is CONSISTANCY.

Both Gorman and Walker have failed this test.

They can get hot for a 10 game stretch then fall right back into the abyss.

Walker may be on his last leg here in 2026 since C. Bloom has no "investment" in him like Mo did.

Gorman may get more time especially if NADO is dealt.

Re: What is it with Gorman

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 09:38 am
by icon
rockondlouie wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:57 am The key to making in MLB is CONSISTANCY.

Both Gorman and Walker have failed this test.

They can get hot for a 10 game stretch then fall right back into the abyss.

Walker may be on his last leg here in 2026 since C. Bloom has no "investment" in him like Mo did.

Gorman may get more time especially if NADO is dealt.
Arenado needs to be history one way or another. He cannot be on this team in the middle of a rebuild. He just does not fit.

Re: What is it with Gorman

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 10:43 am
by Alex Reyes Cy Young
icon wrote: 01 Sep 2025 20:23 pm
TraveledLessRoad wrote: 01 Sep 2025 20:15 pm He's far from irreplaceable, but he offers something no one else on this team does...raw. power. In the "right" lineup he could be an asset. But, you have to be comfortable with a ton of strikeouts and considerable dry-spells. But, I do believe across 162 with full playing time, he'd put up 30-35 home runs, easy.
Melville, is that you?
He has 13 hrs in 332 PAs and he thinks he can breeze to 30/35. That’s ridiculous.

Re: What is it with Gorman

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 10:45 am
by rockondlouie
icon wrote: 02 Sep 2025 09:38 am
rockondlouie wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:57 am The key to making in MLB is CONSISTANCY.

Both Gorman and Walker have failed this test.

They can get hot for a 10 game stretch then fall right back into the abyss.

Walker may be on his last leg here in 2026 since C. Bloom has no "investment" in him like Mo did.

Gorman may get more time especially if NADO is dealt.
Arenado needs to be history one way or another. He cannot be on this team in the middle of a rebuild. He just does not fit.
Agreed

Neither does S. Gray or WillyC even though I'm a fan of both.

From what I gather Bloom is going to meet w/all three, layout his plan for the re-build and see if they want to waive their NTC's.