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Re: Twitter lighting up Mike Shildt
Posted: 30 Jun 2025 09:01 am
by Cardinals4Life
AnExParrot wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 02:59 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 23:43 pm
blackinkbiz wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 22:58 pm
cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 20:29 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 20:27 pm
CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet
CT has a current love affair for Francona, who also has his team looking up at the Cards in the standings.
The blind hatred over anything Oli is pretty funny.
Before this season, it wasn't "blind hatred."
It all began 2022 Game 1 against the Phils; pulling Quintana was idiotic. Then, trying to get 2 innings out of Helsley because of his earlier blunder when the guy had jammed a finger on his throwing hand just 3 days before was equally dumb. To make matters worse, when asked postgame, he said "everything went to script until that last inning." You can't script a regular season game, much less a playoff game.
He's made a terrible habit out of pulling starters too early when they're cruising, overusing BP arms, overplaying L/R matchups, subbing in ancient vets with small sample size history over hot hitters, and musical chairs with the lineup.
That hatred was well deserved. But I'll admit, he's either learned or changed or something because he's not making the same mistakes over and over again this season.
Sonny throwing a complete game and Libby pitching into the 7th would have never happened before this season. Overall, a fine job thus far.
Agree with first 2 paragraphs!
Sonny pitching a CG was only allowed because of an extremely low PC. If he was anywhere near 100, hed have yanked him faster than VSII gets down the line. He doesn't have the feel of a game to make decisions in the heat of the moment based on in-game factors. If it isn't pre-planned, he can’t handle it.
How did Fedde get a 109 pitch CG shutout earlier this season?
109? OMG his arm must be falling off!!!! Hahaha
Re: Twitter lighting up Mike Shildt
Posted: 30 Jun 2025 11:35 am
by AnExParrot
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 09:01 am
AnExParrot wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 02:59 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 23:43 pm
blackinkbiz wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 22:58 pm
cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 20:29 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 20:27 pm
CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet
CT has a current love affair for Francona, who also has his team looking up at the Cards in the standings.
The blind hatred over anything Oli is pretty funny.
Before this season, it wasn't "blind hatred."
It all began 2022 Game 1 against the Phils; pulling Quintana was idiotic. Then, trying to get 2 innings out of Helsley because of his earlier blunder when the guy had jammed a finger on his throwing hand just 3 days before was equally dumb. To make matters worse, when asked postgame, he said "everything went to script until that last inning." You can't script a regular season game, much less a playoff game.
He's made a terrible habit out of pulling starters too early when they're cruising, overusing BP arms, overplaying L/R matchups, subbing in ancient vets with small sample size history over hot hitters, and musical chairs with the lineup.
That hatred was well deserved. But I'll admit, he's either learned or changed or something because he's not making the same mistakes over and over again this season.
Sonny throwing a complete game and Libby pitching into the 7th would have never happened before this season. Overall, a fine job thus far.
Agree with first 2 paragraphs!
Sonny pitching a CG was only allowed because of an extremely low PC. If he was anywhere near 100, hed have yanked him faster than VSII gets down the line. He doesn't have the feel of a game to make decisions in the heat of the moment based on in-game factors. If it isn't pre-planned, he can’t handle it.
How did Fedde get a 109 pitch CG shutout earlier this season?
109? OMG his arm must be falling off!!!! Hahaha
Doesn't fit your narrative, not going to address it?
Re: Twitter lighting up Mike Shildt
Posted: 30 Jun 2025 12:26 pm
by RamFan08NY
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 23:43 pm
blackinkbiz wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 22:58 pm
cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 20:29 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 20:27 pm
CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet
CT has a current love affair for Francona, who also has his team looking up at the Cards in the standings.
The blind hatred over anything Oli is pretty funny.
Before this season, it wasn't "blind hatred."
It all began 2022 Game 1 against the Phils; pulling Quintana was idiotic. Then, trying to get 2 innings out of Helsley because of his earlier blunder when the guy had jammed a finger on his throwing hand just 3 days before was equally dumb. To make matters worse, when asked postgame, he said "everything went to script until that last inning." You can't script a regular season game, much less a playoff game.
He's made a terrible habit out of pulling starters too early when they're cruising, overusing BP arms, overplaying L/R matchups, subbing in ancient vets with small sample size history over hot hitters, and musical chairs with the lineup.
That hatred was well deserved. But I'll admit, he's either learned or changed or something because he's not making the same mistakes over and over again this season.
Sonny throwing a complete game and Libby pitching into the 7th would have never happened before this season. Overall, a fine job thus far.
Agree with first 2 paragraphs!
Sonny pitching a CG was only allowed because of an extremely low PC. If he was anywhere near 100, hed have yanked him faster than VSII gets down the line. He doesn't have the feel of a game to make decisions in the heat of the moment based on in-game factors. If it isn't pre-planned, he can’t handle it.
Of course he would have. It would be negligent for a manager NOT to monitor and act on a pitchers pitch count.
Re: Twitter lighting up Mike Shildt
Posted: 30 Jun 2025 12:36 pm
by woofy25
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 20:27 pm
CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet
I like Shilt, bc he makes the playoffs pretty much every season he has been a big league manager and wins a minimum of 90 games sans COVID. He's ranked 33rd all time in winning % for a manager. He could manage my club if I owned a franchise. Not good enough for the Cardinals though.
Re: Twitter lighting up Mike Shildt
Posted: 30 Jun 2025 12:48 pm
by Futuregm2
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 20:27 pm
CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet
So that makes you detest Bubbles and love Oli because you’re a contrarian.
Re: Twitter lighting up Mike Shildt
Posted: 30 Jun 2025 13:17 pm
by scoutyjones2
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 12:48 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 20:27 pm
CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet
So that makes you detest Bubbles and love Oli because you’re a contrarian.
Nope.
Re: Twitter lighting up Mike Shildt
Posted: 30 Jun 2025 13:36 pm
by dugoutrex
Oli > Mikey
Re: Twitter lighting up Mike Shildt
Posted: 30 Jun 2025 15:41 pm
by Bad14
dugoutrex wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 13:36 pm
Oli > Mikey
That's not saying much. He was awful.
Re: Twitter lighting up Mike Shildt
Posted: 30 Jun 2025 15:47 pm
by Cardinals4Life
RamFan08NY wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 12:26 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 23:43 pm
blackinkbiz wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 22:58 pm
cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 20:29 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 20:27 pm
CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet
CT has a current love affair for Francona, who also has his team looking up at the Cards in the standings.
The blind hatred over anything Oli is pretty funny.
Before this season, it wasn't "blind hatred."
It all began 2022 Game 1 against the Phils; pulling Quintana was idiotic. Then, trying to get 2 innings out of Helsley because of his earlier blunder when the guy had jammed a finger on his throwing hand just 3 days before was equally dumb. To make matters worse, when asked postgame, he said "everything went to script until that last inning." You can't script a regular season game, much less a playoff game.
He's made a terrible habit out of pulling starters too early when they're cruising, overusing BP arms, overplaying L/R matchups, subbing in ancient vets with small sample size history over hot hitters, and musical chairs with the lineup.
That hatred was well deserved. But I'll admit, he's either learned or changed or something because he's not making the same mistakes over and over again this season.
Sonny throwing a complete game and Libby pitching into the 7th would have never happened before this season. Overall, a fine job thus far.
Agree with first 2 paragraphs!
Sonny pitching a CG was only allowed because of an extremely low PC. If he was anywhere near 100, hed have yanked him faster than VSII gets down the line. He doesn't have the feel of a game to make decisions in the heat of the moment based on in-game factors. If it isn't pre-planned, he can’t handle it.
Of course he would have. It would be negligent for a manager NOT to monitor and act on a pitchers pitch count.
PC are not some magic numbers. There has to be be some "feel" involved. Every pitch is not equal. Just because a guy hits a # doesn't mean he should automatically be pulled.
Re: Twitter lighting up Mike Shildt
Posted: 30 Jun 2025 16:07 pm
by woofy25
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 23:39 pm
cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 20:29 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 20:27 pm
CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet
CT has a current love affair for Francona, who also has his team looking up at the Cards in the standings.
The blind hatred over anything Oli is pretty funny.
This team would be even better without Marmol as manager. He costs us games consistently. He is an AWFUL manager. No in game feel whatsoever. None!
Name them. Must be a lot if he consistently costs them games. Back up your accusation.
Re: Twitter lighting up Mike Shildt
Posted: 30 Jun 2025 17:50 pm
by Ozziesfan41
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 12:48 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 20:27 pm
CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet
So that makes you detest Bubbles and love Oli because you’re a contrarian.
If a majority of cards talk loved oli he wouldn’t like him.
Re: Twitter lighting up Mike Shildt
Posted: 30 Jun 2025 21:03 pm
by Cardinals4Life
woofy25 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 16:07 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 23:39 pm
cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 20:29 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 20:27 pm
CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet
CT has a current love affair for Francona, who also has his team looking up at the Cards in the standings.
The blind hatred over anything Oli is pretty funny.
This team would be even better without Marmol as manager. He costs us games consistently. He is an AWFUL manager. No in game feel whatsoever. None!
Name them. Must be a lot if he consistently costs them games. Back up your accusation.
His atrocious lineups over the past several years alone account for god knows how many losses.