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Re: Who will contribute more quicker to the starting rotation?
Posted: 25 Jun 2025 18:32 pm
by MIDMOBIRDTWO
craviduce wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:34 pm
Shady wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:29 pm
imadangman wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:25 pm
Mo quicka? I have no clue Mathews is at AAA but he hasn't gotten on track so maybe Roby can pass him. But Roby has soiled the bowl with Memphis too now. A 6+ ERA. My guess given health they both appear next year. That doesn't mean go ahead and write them in for next years opening day rotation.
Roby had an exceptionally fine last start. 6 shutout innings, allowing only three hits. Only one walk. Mathews had some unusual control issues in his last start.
and yet, you said nothing for over two weeks about Roby. Now you're running laps beating your chest. Be consistent. Start threads ridiculing Roby when he does poorly...don't run laps like this. They've both been uneven in AAA.
Marshall is a dish served best on your foe list.
Re: Who will contribute more, quicker, to the starting rotation?
Posted: 25 Jun 2025 18:39 pm
by Mort Gage
Shady wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:14 pm
Mathews or Roby. Maybe Hence. All three could really be helpful, at least, next season. Good to see some really fine pitching prospects coming along.
Excellent question. As always I await the sage wisdom of Honky Tonk Man before I opine. Where is he anyway? He should be here by now, vigorously agreeing with you.
Re: Who will contribute more, quicker, to the starting rotation?
Posted: 25 Jun 2025 18:45 pm
by Jatalk
See my reply from last week and the week before that and the week before that and …………….
Re: Who will contribute more, quicker, to the starting rotation?
Posted: 25 Jun 2025 21:47 pm
by scoutyjones2
Shady wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:14 pm
Mathews or Roby. Maybe Hence. All three could really be helpful, at least, next season. Good to see some really fine pitching prospects coming along.
[fork] off
Re: Who will contribute more, quicker, to the starting rotation?
Posted: 25 Jun 2025 22:33 pm
by Cranny
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 21:47 pm
Shady wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:14 pm
Mathews or Roby. Maybe Hence. All three could really be helpful, at least, next season. Good to see some really fine pitching prospects coming along.
[fork] off
You sure have a fixation with a particular table implement.
Re: Who will contribute more quicker to the starting rotation?
Posted: 25 Jun 2025 23:48 pm
by ICCFIM2
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 18:03 pm
ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:37 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:30 pm
imadangman wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:25 pm
Mo quicka? I have no clue Mathews is at AAA but he hasn't gotten on track so maybe Roby can pass him. But Roby has soiled the bowl with Memphis too now. A 6+ ERA. My guess given health they both appear next year. That doesn't mean go ahead and write them in for next years opening day rotation.
Next year's rotation is probably Gray, Liberatore, Pallante, McGreevy, and ?.
I agree with this. The ? will either be someone they trade for in the offseason to thin out part of the starting position player herd or a veteran free agent. It would not surprise me if they ask Mikolas to sign for a 20% paycut 1 year contract and he takes it. Then Mathews and Roby play the McGreevy role in 2026.
I dont hate the idea of Mikolas for one year. But I'd like to see a good to quality arm added.
I don't really like it myself. But, it is a path of least resistance. I would really like to see them make a trade for a good young arm.
Baseball Trade Value apparently has moved Jordan Walker down to 0 trade value. If he was paired with a catcher I wonder if a team would take a chance on him and give us a near MLB ready pitching prospect. Probably not. They were talking about Walker on 101.1 today. The discussion was if he needs a reset in the minors again this year because he can't help the team make the playoffs. What is his role on the team next year if the expectation is to make the playoffs. They indicated probably there is not a role. So my real expectation is that they trade Walker and an IF this offseason and try to get a pitcher.
Re: Who will contribute more quicker to the starting rotation?
Posted: 26 Jun 2025 01:17 am
by JuanAgosto
ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 23:48 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 18:03 pm
ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:37 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:30 pm
imadangman wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:25 pm
Mo quicka? I have no clue Mathews is at AAA but he hasn't gotten on track so maybe Roby can pass him. But Roby has soiled the bowl with Memphis too now. A 6+ ERA. My guess given health they both appear next year. That doesn't mean go ahead and write them in for next years opening day rotation.
Next year's rotation is probably Gray, Liberatore, Pallante, McGreevy, and ?.
I agree with this. The ? will either be someone they trade for in the offseason to thin out part of the starting position player herd or a veteran free agent. It would not surprise me if they ask Mikolas to sign for a 20% paycut 1 year contract and he takes it. Then Mathews and Roby play the McGreevy role in 2026.
I dont hate the idea of Mikolas for one year. But I'd like to see a good to quality arm added.
I don't really like it myself. But, it is a path of least resistance. I would really like to see them make a trade for a good young arm.
Baseball Trade Value apparently has moved Jordan Walker down to 0 trade value. If he was paired with a catcher I wonder if a team would take a chance on him and give us a near MLB ready pitching prospect. Probably not. They were talking about Walker on 101.1 today. The discussion was if he needs a reset in the minors again this year because he can't help the team make the playoffs. What is his role on the team next year if the expectation is to make the playoffs. They indicated probably there is not a role. So my real expectation is that they trade Walker and an IF this offseason and try to get a pitcher.
Unfortunately I am not sure the organization has any expectations of post season play this year or next.
Re: Who will contribute more quicker to the starting rotation?
Posted: 26 Jun 2025 04:15 am
by AnExParrot
Shady wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:41 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:34 pm
Shady wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:29 pm
imadangman wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:25 pm
Mo quicka? I have no clue Mathews is at AAA but he hasn't gotten on track so maybe Roby can pass him. But Roby has soiled the bowl with Memphis too now. A 6+ ERA. My guess given health they both appear next year. That doesn't mean go ahead and write them in for next years opening day rotation.
Roby had an exceptionally fine last start. 6 shutout innings, allowing only three hits. Only one walk. Mathews had some unusual control issues in his last start.
and yet, you said nothing for over two weeks about Roby. Now you're running laps beating your chest. Be consistent. Start threads ridiculing Roby when he does poorly...don't run laps like this. They've both been uneven in AAA.
You a such a GURU. I am impressed.
You haven't even bothered to give your opinion on your own question, but you're here to talk baseball?
Re: Who will contribute more, quicker, to the starting rotation?
Posted: 26 Jun 2025 05:49 am
by BrockFloodMaris
Shady wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:14 pm
Mathews or Roby. Maybe Hence. All three could really be helpful, at least, next season. Good to see some really fine pitching prospects coming along.
Let’s play “keep, trade, non-tender” with those three. At the end of each of their arb years, who will be where?
Re: Who will contribute more, quicker, to the starting rotation?
Posted: 26 Jun 2025 08:40 am
by rockondlouie
McGreevy
Re: Who will contribute more, quicker, to the starting rotation?
Posted: 26 Jun 2025 08:54 am
by Honky Tonk Man
you are more than likely right about that
Re: Who will contribute more, quicker, to the starting rotation?
Posted: 26 Jun 2025 08:57 am
by rockondlouie
Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:54 am
you are more than likely right about that
He's ready now, the other two may still be a year (2027) away.
Re: Who will contribute more, quicker, to the starting rotation?
Posted: 26 Jun 2025 09:12 am
by Jatalk
Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:54 am
you are more than likely right about that
Asking straight up. Are you Shady? Honest answer please.
Re: Who will contribute more, quicker, to the starting rotation?
Posted: 26 Jun 2025 09:33 am
by Honky Tonk Man
Jatalk wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 09:12 am
Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:54 am
you are more than likely right about that
Asking straight up. Are you Shady? Honest answer please.
no
Re: Who will contribute more, quicker, to the starting rotation?
Posted: 26 Jun 2025 09:38 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Shady wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:14 pm
Mathews or Roby. Maybe Hence. All three could really be helpful, at least, next season. Good to see some really fine pitching prospects coming along.
You’re asking me two seperate questions- who contributes most, to be measured over a full season, and who will impact quickest, which is a snap shot in time.
The quickest is easiest to answer. The more question takes yearsz
Re: Who will contribute more, quicker, to the starting rotation?
Posted: 26 Jun 2025 09:58 am
by Cusecards
Jatalk wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 09:12 am
Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:54 am
you are more than likely right about that
Asking straight up. Are you Shady? Honest answer please.
I applaud your effort! LOL