GDT : Cardinals @ Reds (8/17) ~ 12:40pm CDT ~ Doubleheader Game 1

[82birds]

thanks cosmo for the GDT

go Cards !

[gtriever]

I just realized that Cardinals Devil Magick might be making another appearance. So, to quote Hedley Lamar, "Go do that voodoo that you do so well..."

[scoutyjones2]

Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO?

Rock, how many times did AP, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Berkman, Beltran leadoff?

How many times did Schwarber? Ohtani?

Moran

See above Sunshine….

So you have nothing...bitchfan

[82birds]

here's hoping Cardinal pitchers keep Sal Stewart in the ballpark


a) just in general to help win games
b) to help JJ in his ROY quest

[Cardinals1964]

Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO?

Rock, how many times did AP, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Berkman, Beltran leadoff?

ZERO

And unlike Ohtani & TGKS who not only have superstar hitters behind them, they also have LARGE OB%'s.

Hey I hope Bez goes 4 for 4 and score 3 runs

I wouldn't waste that big bat behind Pages & EP though.

JMO

Beltran hit leadoff several times when he made his September debut in 1998. And also began the 1999 season at leadoff

But not as a Cardinal which I think was GF's point.

And he had over 10 times more PA's hitting 3rd in his career over those few lead-off PA's his rookie and early 2nd season.

Well sure when he first came up and had his speed…..but not as Cardinal

Baez stole 50 bases last year and had 21 in AAA this year. He has speed.

How many RBI have the Dodgers and Ohtani forfeited hitting leadoff? 11 leadoff HR this year of his 27…..thats HUGE

Who’s to say there would be men on base if he batted MOTO? You can’t really know.
I’d probably rather have a lead off home run then an intentional walk with men on base.
Doesn’t Schwarber lead off too?

[hullie]

Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO?

Rock, how many times did AP, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Berkman, Beltran leadoff?

ZERO

And unlike Ohtani & TGKS who not only have superstar hitters behind them, they also have LARGE OB%'s.

Hey I hope Bez goes 4 for 4 and score 3 runs

I wouldn't waste that big bat behind Pages & EP though.

JMO

Beltran hit leadoff several times when he made his September debut in 1998. And also began the 1999 season at leadoff

But not as a Cardinal which I think was GF's point.

And he had over 10 times more PA's hitting 3rd in his career over those few lead-off PA's his rookie and early 2nd season.

Well sure when he first came up and had his speed…..but not as Cardinal

Baez stole 50 bases last year and had 21 in AAA this year. He has speed.

How many RBI have the Dodgers and Ohtani forfeited hitting leadoff? 11 leadoff HR this year of his 27…..thats HUGE

Who’s to say there would be men on base if he batted MOTO? You can’t really know.
I’d probably rather have a lead off home run then an intentional walk with men on base.
Doesn’t Schwarber lead off too?

If he ain’t (bleep) he ain’t happy

[Ozziesfan41]

Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO?

Rock, how many times did AP, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Berkman, Beltran leadoff?

ZERO

And unlike Ohtani & TGKS who not only have superstar hitters behind them, they also have LARGE OB%'s.

Hey I hope Bez goes 4 for 4 and score 3 runs

I wouldn't waste that big bat behind Pages & EP though.

JMO

Beltran hit leadoff several times when he made his September debut in 1998. And also began the 1999 season at leadoff

But not as a Cardinal which I think was GF's point.

And he had over 10 times more PA's hitting 3rd in his career over those few lead-off PA's his rookie and early 2nd season.

Well sure when he first came up and had his speed…..but not as Cardinal

Baez stole 50 bases last year and had 21 in AAA this year. He has speed.

How many RBI have the Dodgers and Ohtani forfeited hitting leadoff? 11 leadoff HR this year of his 27…..thats HUGE

Who’s to say there would be men on base if he batted MOTO? You can’t really know.
I’d probably rather have a lead off home run then an intentional walk with men on base.
Doesn’t Schwarber lead off too?

If he ain’t (bleep) he ain’t happy

Yep he ain’t crying he ain’t posting.

[cosmo.kramer]

Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO?

Rock, how many times did AP, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Berkman, Beltran leadoff?

ZERO

And unlike Ohtani & TGKS who not only have superstar hitters behind them, they also have LARGE OB%'s.

Hey I hope Bez goes 4 for 4 and score 3 runs

I wouldn't waste that big bat behind Pages & EP though.

JMO

Beltran hit leadoff several times when he made his September debut in 1998. And also began the 1999 season at leadoff

But not as a Cardinal which I think was GF's point.

And he had over 10 times more PA's hitting 3rd in his career over those few lead-off PA's his rookie and early 2nd season.

35 year old Carlos Beltran did not hit leadoff for the Cardinals, correct

But why are we comparing a rookie to a 15 year MLB veteran's batting order position instead of to his rookie batting order position?

Again, Beltran started his career at leadoff

[butsir01]

Nice article on JB’s big day behind paywall in this morning’s Wall Street Journal. Nice pic, too.

[cosmo.kramer]

Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO?

Rock, how many times did AP, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Berkman, Beltran leadoff?

ZERO

And unlike Ohtani & TGKS who not only have superstar hitters behind them, they also have LARGE OB%'s.

Hey I hope Bez goes 4 for 4 and score 3 runs

I wouldn't waste that big bat behind Pages & EP though.

JMO

Beltran hit leadoff several times when he made his September debut in 1998. And also began the 1999 season at leadoff

But not as a Cardinal which I think was GF's point.

And he had over 10 times more PA's hitting 3rd in his career over those few lead-off PA's his rookie and early 2nd season.

When Beltran was a Cardinal we had the pitcher hitting 9th. When he was a rookie and did it he was in the AL with the DH. There is a difference between the two aspects.

He was NEVER going to hit leadoff as a Cardinal

Not the 35 year old version

But rookie Beltran easily could

[JuanAgosto]

Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO?

Rock, how many times did AP, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Berkman, Beltran leadoff?

How many times did Schwarber? Ohtani?

Moran

See above Sunshine….

So you have nothing...bitchfan

He has a solid reason backing up his stance. What do you have, Scouty? Once again providing nothing but complaints and name calling.

[rockondlouie]

Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO?

Rock, how many times did AP, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Berkman, Beltran leadoff?

ZERO

And unlike Ohtani & TGKS who not only have superstar hitters behind them, they also have LARGE OB%'s.

Hey I hope Bez goes 4 for 4 and score 3 runs

I wouldn't waste that big bat behind Pages & EP though.

JMO

Beltran hit leadoff several times when he made his September debut in 1998. And also began the 1999 season at leadoff

But not as a Cardinal which I think was GF's point.

And he had over 10 times more PA's hitting 3rd in his career over those few lead-off PA's his rookie and early 2nd season.

When Beltran was a Cardinal we had the pitcher hitting 9th. When he was a rookie and did it he was in the AL with the DH. There is a difference between the two aspects.

He was NEVER going to hit leadoff as a Cardinal

Not the 35 year old version

But rookie Beltran easily could

Sure........if he was a Cardinal then

[JuanAgosto]

Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO?

Rock, how many times did AP, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Berkman, Beltran leadoff?

ZERO

And unlike Ohtani & TGKS who not only have superstar hitters behind them, they also have LARGE OB%'s.

Hey I hope Bez goes 4 for 4 and score 3 runs

I wouldn't waste that big bat behind Pages & EP though.

JMO

Beltran hit leadoff several times when he made his September debut in 1998. And also began the 1999 season at leadoff

But not as a Cardinal which I think was GF's point.

And he had over 10 times more PA's hitting 3rd in his career over those few lead-off PA's his rookie and early 2nd season.

Well sure when he first came up and had his speed…..but not as Cardinal

Baez stole 50 bases last year and had 21 in AAA this year. He has speed.

How many RBI have the Dodgers and Ohtani forfeited hitting leadoff? 11 leadoff HR this year of his 27…..thats HUGE

Who’s to say there would be men on base if he batted MOTO? You can’t really know.
I’d probably rather have a lead off home run then an intentional walk with men on base.
Doesn’t Schwarber lead off too?

Better chance than the zero % odds to start the game.

[stlbirdlover]

thanks cosmo for the GDT

go Cards !

Yeah Thanks Cosmo for the GDT. I was on the Cards website around 10 minutes ago and they still didn't have the lineups posted! I hope the Cards can keep on winning! Go Cards!

[cardsfaninla]

This is a pretty early start. And yet .. the game won't start.

I am ready. These five games in four days could be crazy.

I like baseball

[butsir01]

Thank you, Cosmo.