GDT : Cardinals @ Reds (8/17) ~ 12:40pm CDT ~ Doubleheader Game 1

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GDT : Cardinals @ Reds (8/17) ~ 12:40pm CDT ~ Doubleheader Game 1

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Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO? :roll:
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rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:37 am Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO? :roll:
LHP opener. Take advantage. Load the top 3 with the best LHP hitters It makes sense IMO. Only other option that might make sense is a Herrera there, but I like Baez's speed better in the leadoff spot.
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Re: GDT : Cardinals @ Reds (8/17) ~ 12:40pm CDT ~ Doubleheader Game 1

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rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:37 am Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO? :roll:
Could have been Fermin leading off :wink:
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rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:37 am Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO? :roll:
Rock, how many times did AP, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Berkman, Beltran leadoff?
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Re: GDT : Cardinals @ Reds (8/17) ~ 12:40pm CDT ~ Doubleheader Game 1

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Goldfan wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:39 am
rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:37 am Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO? :roll:
Rock, how many times did AP, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Berkman, Beltran leadoff?
When those players played the 9th hitter was a pitcher...

James Wood hits leadoff, Ohtani hits leadoff, Aaron Judge has hit 2nd, Schwarber has hit leadoff. Lots of power hitters hit in the top 2 spots nowadays. And on very successful offenses/teams.
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Re: GDT : Cardinals @ Reds (8/17) ~ 12:40pm CDT ~ Doubleheader Game 1

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Futuregm2 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:40 am
Goldfan wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:39 am
rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:37 am Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO? :roll:
Rock, how many times did AP, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Berkman, Beltran leadoff?
When those players played the 9th hitter was a pitcher...

James Wood hits leadoff, Ohtani hits leadoff, Aaron Judge has hit 2nd, Schwarber has hit leadoff. Lots of power hitters hit in the top 2 spots nowadays. And on very successful offenses/teams.
And how many RBIs are given up over the course of the year doing that?
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Re: GDT : Cardinals @ Reds (8/17) ~ 12:40pm CDT ~ Doubleheader Game 1

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Futuregm2 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:38 am
rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:37 am Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO? :roll:
LHP opener. Take advantage. Load the top 3 with the best LHP hitters It makes sense IMO. Only other option that might make sense is a Herrera there, but I like Baez's speed better in the leadoff spot.
Nope

I want that big bat, in that stadium hitting MOTO where there may actually be men on base....not having Pereira and Pages in front of him.

JMO

Oh well, hope it works
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rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:37 am Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO? :roll:
Yea I’m scratching my bald head a little bit also but honestly we don’t have a leadoff without JJ.
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Re: GDT : Cardinals @ Reds (8/17) ~ 12:40pm CDT ~ Doubleheader Game 1

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rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:42 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:38 am
rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:37 am Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO? :roll:
LHP opener. Take advantage. Load the top 3 with the best LHP hitters It makes sense IMO. Only other option that might make sense is a Herrera there, but I like Baez's speed better in the leadoff spot.
Nope

I want that big bat, in that stadium hitting MOTO where there may actually be men on base....not having Pereira and Pages in front of him.

JMO

Oh well, hope it works
Again, this is an opener situation. The LHP is probably only pitching one inning. If Baez hits 4th or 5th he may not even see the LHP. You take advantage. It's a one off thing, this is highly likely not going to be Baez's spot going forward, so you can relax about that. JJ gets the game off with a DH and LHP opener.
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Goldfan wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:39 am
rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:37 am Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO? :roll:
Rock, how many times did AP, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Berkman, Beltran leadoff?
ZERO

And unlike Ohtani & TGKS who not only have superstar hitters behind them, they also have LARGE OB%'s.

Hey I hope Bez goes 4 for 4 and score 3 runs

I wouldn't waste that big bat behind Pages & EP though.

JMO
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Re: GDT : Cardinals @ Reds (8/17) ~ 12:40pm CDT ~ Doubleheader Game 1

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Goldfan wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:42 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:40 am
Goldfan wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:39 am
rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:37 am Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO? :roll:
Rock, how many times did AP, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Berkman, Beltran leadoff?
When those players played the 9th hitter was a pitcher...

James Wood hits leadoff, Ohtani hits leadoff, Aaron Judge has hit 2nd, Schwarber has hit leadoff. Lots of power hitters hit in the top 2 spots nowadays. And on very successful offenses/teams.
And how many RBIs are given up over the course of the year doing that?
Team RBIs or individual player RBIs?
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Re: GDT : Cardinals @ Reds (8/17) ~ 12:40pm CDT ~ Doubleheader Game 1

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Futuregm2 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:44 am
rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:42 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:38 am
rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:37 am Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO? :roll:
LHP opener. Take advantage. Load the top 3 with the best LHP hitters It makes sense IMO. Only other option that might make sense is a Herrera there, but I like Baez's speed better in the leadoff spot.
Nope

I want that big bat, in that stadium hitting MOTO where there may actually be men on base....not having Pereira and Pages in front of him.

JMO

Oh well, hope it works
Again, this is an opener situation. The LHP is probably only pitching one inning. If Baez hits 4th or 5th he may not even see the LHP. You take advantage. It's a one off thing, this is highly likely not going to be Baez's spot going forward, so you can relax about that. JJ gets the game off with a DH and LHP opener.
Nope

Can't do it FGM

Because for the rest of the game he's got two weak hitters in front of him (and I hope Pages and EP get on base five times and I have to eat this comment :wink: )
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rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:45 am
Goldfan wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:39 am
rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:37 am Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO? :roll:
Rock, how many times did AP, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Berkman, Beltran leadoff?
ZERO

And unlike Ohtani & TGKS who not only have superstar hitters behind them, they also have LARGE OB%'s.

Hey I hope Bez goes 4 for 4 and score 3 runs

I wouldn't waste that big bat behind Pages & EP though.

JMO
Ohtani has hit 11 leadoff homers this season WITH NOONE on base……brilliant.
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cosmo.kramer wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:45 am
Goldfan wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:42 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:40 am
Goldfan wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:39 am
rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2026 10:37 am Ok I'll start it..........

Power hitter in the leadoff spot (yea I know he's got speed too and TGKS/Ohtani hit there) but we don't have the hitters those two team do behind those guys and don't we want that power bat in the MOTO? :roll:
Rock, how many times did AP, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Berkman, Beltran leadoff?
When those players played the 9th hitter was a pitcher...

James Wood hits leadoff, Ohtani hits leadoff, Aaron Judge has hit 2nd, Schwarber has hit leadoff. Lots of power hitters hit in the top 2 spots nowadays. And on very successful offenses/teams.
And how many RBIs are given up over the course of the year doing that?
Team RBIs or individual player RBIs?
Are those separate??? Ohtani has hit 11 leadoff homers with no one on base this year…..do the math
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Re: GDT : Cardinals @ Reds (8/17) ~ 12:40pm CDT ~ Doubleheader Game 1

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Okay here you go

J. Fermin vs LHP

.272 .356 .427 .783

.356 OB%............looks like a solid lead-off candidate vs a LHSP when JJW has the day off.

Oh, and he's HOT

Last 22 PA's
.333 .524 .400 .924