Hartel OUT!
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Rosthol
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Hartel OUT!
It never ends with them.
Where will the goals come from?
Roster malpractice.
Where will the goals come from?
Roster malpractice.
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todd-parker
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Re: Hartel OUT!
Auf Wiedersehen, Herr Hartel. Deine Beiträge zum Club werden vermisst werden.
Carlo Holse, det er din tid til at skinne.
Carlo Holse, det er din tid til at skinne.
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mjg
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Re: Hartel OUT!
By all accounts this was not the club’s doing. Player wanted to go back to Germany. There is some speculation regarding personal reasons. Whether it be personal or professional once a player decides they need to move it’s difficult to prevent it - there are countless examples.
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Rosthol
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Re: Hartel OUT!
What if everyone wants out?mjg wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 09:40 amBy all accounts this was not the club’s doing. Player wanted to go back to Germany. There is some speculation regarding personal reasons. Whether it be personal or professional once a player decides they need to move it’s difficult to prevent it - there are countless examples.
I am sure not everyone is happy with playing at STL City.
Is there a point to contracts anymore?
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Rosthol
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Re: Hartel OUT!
If it is a family situation I am sorry his family is going through that and I am sympathetic to his plight.mjg wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 09:40 amBy all accounts this was not the club’s doing. Player wanted to go back to Germany. There is some speculation regarding personal reasons. Whether it be personal or professional once a player decides they need to move it’s difficult to prevent it - there are countless examples.
What if everyone wants out?
I am sure not everyone is happy with playing at STL City.
Is there a point to contracts anymore?
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mjg
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Re: Hartel OUT!
Everyone wanting out is hyperbolic. Not going to happen. Contracts have a point in that they determine wages and terms - they have never prevented transfers. There are stipulations such as sell on fees and buyout clauses but no player or agent would sign a contract that would restrict movement. So to answer your question…they are kind of pointless.Rosthol wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 13:51 pmIf it is a family situation I am sorry his family is going through that and I am sympathetic to his plight.mjg wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 09:40 amBy all accounts this was not the club’s doing. Player wanted to go back to Germany. There is some speculation regarding personal reasons. Whether it be personal or professional once a player decides they need to move it’s difficult to prevent it - there are countless examples.
What if everyone wants out?
I am sure not everyone is happy with playing at STL City.
Is there a point to contracts anymore?
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Rosthol
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Re: Hartel OUT!
Everyone wanting out is hyperbolic.mjg wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 13:56 pmEveryone wanting out is hyperbolic. Not going to happen. Contracts have a point in that they determine wages and terms - they have never prevented transfers. There are stipulations such as sell on fees and buyout clauses but no player or agent would sign a contract that would restrict movement. So to answer your question…they are kind of pointless.Rosthol wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 13:51 pmIf it is a family situation I am sorry his family is going through that and I am sympathetic to his plight.mjg wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 09:40 amBy all accounts this was not the club’s doing. Player wanted to go back to Germany. There is some speculation regarding personal reasons. Whether it be personal or professional once a player decides they need to move it’s difficult to prevent it - there are countless examples.
What if everyone wants out?
I am sure not everyone is happy with playing at STL City.
Is there a point to contracts anymore?
However, the next person that wants out - that wish has to be granted.
For whatever reason.
A precedent has been set.
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mjg
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Re: Hartel OUT!
It’ll be ok. I promiseRosthol wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 16:51 pmEveryone wanting out is hyperbolic.mjg wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 13:56 pmEveryone wanting out is hyperbolic. Not going to happen. Contracts have a point in that they determine wages and terms - they have never prevented transfers. There are stipulations such as sell on fees and buyout clauses but no player or agent would sign a contract that would restrict movement. So to answer your question…they are kind of pointless.Rosthol wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 13:51 pmIf it is a family situation I am sorry his family is going through that and I am sympathetic to his plight.mjg wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 09:40 amBy all accounts this was not the club’s doing. Player wanted to go back to Germany. There is some speculation regarding personal reasons. Whether it be personal or professional once a player decides they need to move it’s difficult to prevent it - there are countless examples.
What if everyone wants out?
I am sure not everyone is happy with playing at STL City.
Is there a point to contracts anymore?
However, the next person that wants out - that wish has to be granted.
For whatever reason.
A precedent has been set.
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Rosthol
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Re: Hartel OUT!
Starting with this Saturday we are going to see if it is alright or not.mjg wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 17:03 pmIt’ll be ok. I promiseRosthol wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 16:51 pmEveryone wanting out is hyperbolic.mjg wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 13:56 pmEveryone wanting out is hyperbolic. Not going to happen. Contracts have a point in that they determine wages and terms - they have never prevented transfers. There are stipulations such as sell on fees and buyout clauses but no player or agent would sign a contract that would restrict movement. So to answer your question…they are kind of pointless.Rosthol wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 13:51 pmIf it is a family situation I am sorry his family is going through that and I am sympathetic to his plight.mjg wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 09:40 amBy all accounts this was not the club’s doing. Player wanted to go back to Germany. There is some speculation regarding personal reasons. Whether it be personal or professional once a player decides they need to move it’s difficult to prevent it - there are countless examples.
What if everyone wants out?
I am sure not everyone is happy with playing at STL City.
Is there a point to contracts anymore?
However, the next person that wants out - that wish has to be granted.
For whatever reason.
A precedent has been set.
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winonsports
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Re: Hartel OUT!
How long is it going to take for you to figure out, that the more Sephaxs posts in an effort to show how much he knows about soccer, he ends up showing how much he doesn't know about soccer.mjg wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 09:40 am By all accounts this was not the club’s doing. Player wanted to go back to Germany. There is some speculation regarding personal reasons. Whether it be personal or professional once a player decides they need to move it’s difficult to prevent it - there are countless examples.
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Rosthol
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Re: Hartel OUT!
Starting this Saturday we will see whether it is ok of not.
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winonsports
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Which of the dozens of questions did you actually answer? They are all pointless.mjg wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 13:56 pm Everyone wanting out is hyperbolic. Not going to happen. Contracts have a point in that they determine wages and terms - they have never prevented transfers. There are stipulations such as sell on fees and buyout clauses but no player or agent would sign a contract that would restrict movement. So to answer your question…they are kind of pointless.
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Rosthol
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Re: Hartel OUT!
Like I said.
Saturday is the first test.
Saturday is the first test.
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Rosthol
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Re: Hartel OUT!
Doesn’t look like many people agree with Taylor!
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winonsports
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Doesn't look like anyone agreed with Sephaxswinonsports wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 19:20 pmHow long is it going to take for you to figure out, that the more Sephaxs posts in an effort to show how much he knows about soccer, he ends up showing how much he doesn't know about soccer.mjg wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026 09:40 am By all accounts this was not the club’s doing. Player wanted to go back to Germany. There is some speculation regarding personal reasons. Whether it be personal or professional once a player decides they need to move it’s difficult to prevent it - there are countless examples.