Top 5 Moves of the Army GM Era

[DIAMONDINTHEROUGH]

It's not a top 5 move. But I was looking up some old Blues rosters. And Armstrong gave up nothing to get Elliot. I was shocked to see he had years of .940 and .930 save percentages. He also had a couple of other good years before he was traded for 2 draft picks. One that ended up being Kyrou.

[Tony Palazzolo]

Didn't Petro choose Vegas because of the weird contract he signed. $31m signing bonus guaranteed? The Blues couldn't match that.

I believe that you are correct.
It is a business. Business is tough. Working capital is important. Difficult decisions have to be made. Depth and balance is critical for franchises in this particular business.
Looking forward is essential.

I think you look back at the decision to let Petro walk of all the things said and not said. Armstrong regrets that the most. I also think that Petro didn't want to leave. Armstrong has stated that he won't talk about it until after both he and Petro are retired.

[CheapSeat]

Didn't Petro choose Vegas because of the weird contract he signed. $31m signing bonus guaranteed? The Blues couldn't match that.

I believe that you are correct.
It is a business. Business is tough. Working capital is important. Difficult decisions have to be made. Depth and balance is critical for franchises in this particular business.
Looking forward is essential.

I think you look back at the decision to let Petro walk of all the things said and not said. Armstrong regrets that the most. I also think that Petro didn't want to leave. Armstrong has stated that he won't talk about it until after both he and Petro are retired.

Petro chose to leave the money was the same just not all up front and NMC was not going to happen.

[dtkblueshockey]

Schenn Trade
O'Reilly Trade
Bouwmeester Trade
Berube Promotion
Binnington being placed on the roster at the right time

[netboy65]

Schenn Trade
O'Reilly Trade
Bouwmeester Trade
Berube Promotion
Binnington being placed on the roster at the right time

I thought Army did a fantastic job while he was here, but those last two were just “fortunate bounces”.
Yeo was a disaster and Chief was coaching our minor league team, it’s not like there was a grand plan.
But for Allen shirting the bed and Husso’s knee injury, we might never have heard of Binnington

[Tony Palazzolo]

Didn't Petro choose Vegas because of the weird contract he signed. $31m signing bonus guaranteed? The Blues couldn't match that.

I believe that you are correct.
It is a business. Business is tough. Working capital is important. Difficult decisions have to be made. Depth and balance is critical for franchises in this particular business.
Looking forward is essential.

I think you look back at the decision to let Petro walk of all the things said and not said. Armstrong regrets that the most. I also think that Petro didn't want to leave. Armstrong has stated that he won't talk about it until after both he and Petro are retired.

Petro chose to leave the money was the same just not all up front and NMC was not going to happen.

Maybe, but he didn't sign with Vegas until after Krug was signed signaling The Blues had moved on.

[callitwhatyouwant]

Didn't Petro choose Vegas because of the weird contract he signed. $31m signing bonus guaranteed? The Blues couldn't match that.

I believe that you are correct.
It is a business. Business is tough. Working capital is important. Difficult decisions have to be made. Depth and balance is critical for franchises in this particular business.
Looking forward is essential.

I think you look back at the decision to let Petro walk of all the things said and not said. Armstrong regrets that the most. I also think that Petro didn't want to leave. Armstrong has stated that he won't talk about it until after both he and Petro are retired.

Petro chose to leave the money was the same just not all up front and NMC was not going to happen.

Maybe, but he didn't sign with Vegas until after Krug was signed signaling The Blues had moved on.

Before Krug was signed, Petro formally turned down the Blues again. The Blues initially gave him 1 year less term but higher average. Petro's camp wasn't happy with that as they wanted full NMC, by the time the whole proceedings got done, he had gotten the exact same offer that Vegas offered him but Petro didn't like how it went down and declined it.

If Petro wanted to be in STL he would have been in STL. During that covid season he had repeatedly said he'd like to play in front of his family in Toronto as he has played in front of his wifes family in STL. Was there any truth to this? WHo knows. TO me it always looked like a way to force the Blues to the bargaining table and get leverage on them. The fact that he didn't end up signing in Toronto kind of alludes to that.

While that is an Army fumble, that example wasn't necessarily in his control. I know a lot of you guys have disagreed with me, but the Oshie decision was 100 percent in Army's control. He gets the blame or credit for making that move. TJ even did an interview I think with the Tkachuks where he said he had 0 desire to leave STL. He felt almost a bit blind sided because he felt like they were blaming him for the playoffs not going well and he thought he was giving maximum effort. As someone else noted, that was really more of a culture trade than anything, very familiar with the Kyrou recent trade I believe.

[Tony Palazzolo]

Didn't Petro choose Vegas because of the weird contract he signed. $31m signing bonus guaranteed? The Blues couldn't match that.

I believe that you are correct.
It is a business. Business is tough. Working capital is important. Difficult decisions have to be made. Depth and balance is critical for franchises in this particular business.
Looking forward is essential.

I think you look back at the decision to let Petro walk of all the things said and not said. Armstrong regrets that the most. I also think that Petro didn't want to leave. Armstrong has stated that he won't talk about it until after both he and Petro are retired.

Petro chose to leave the money was the same just not all up front and NMC was not going to happen.

Maybe, but he didn't sign with Vegas until after Krug was signed signaling The Blues had moved on.

Before Krug was signed, Petro formally turned down the Blues again. The Blues initially gave him 1 year less term but higher average. Petro's camp wasn't happy with that as they wanted full NMC, by the time the whole proceedings got done, he had gotten the exact same offer that Vegas offered him but Petro didn't like how it went down and declined it.

If Petro wanted to be in STL he would have been in STL. During that covid season he had repeatedly said he'd like to play in front of his family in Toronto as he has played in front of his wifes family in STL. Was there any truth to this? WHo knows. TO me it always looked like a way to force the Blues to the bargaining table and get leverage on them. The fact that he didn't end up signing in Toronto kind of alludes to that.

While that is an Army fumble, that example wasn't necessarily in his control. I know a lot of you guys have disagreed with me, but the Oshie decision was 100 percent in Army's control. He gets the blame or credit for making that move. TJ even did an interview I think with the Tkachuks where he said he had 0 desire to leave STL. He felt almost a bit blind sided because he felt like they were blaming him for the playoffs not going well and he thought he was giving maximum effort. As someone else noted, that was really more of a culture trade than anything, very familiar with the Kyrou recent trade I believe.

If Petro had wanted to leave he would've signed a contract before Army surprised everyone with the Krug signing. This is supposition from everyone whether he did or didn't want to stay. He accepted the Vegas offer only after the Blues signed Krug and there would've been little to no money for Petro.

Oshie was done here. He was calling out the coach publicly and in the playoffs his last year was awful. I think he had one goal that bounced off him. He needed to move on for a fresh start. Hopefully we get the same bump from McTavish that Oshie did from moving on.

[callitwhatyouwant]

Didn't Petro choose Vegas because of the weird contract he signed. $31m signing bonus guaranteed? The Blues couldn't match that.

I believe that you are correct.
It is a business. Business is tough. Working capital is important. Difficult decisions have to be made. Depth and balance is critical for franchises in this particular business.
Looking forward is essential.

I think you look back at the decision to let Petro walk of all the things said and not said. Armstrong regrets that the most. I also think that Petro didn't want to leave. Armstrong has stated that he won't talk about it until after both he and Petro are retired.

Petro chose to leave the money was the same just not all up front and NMC was not going to happen.

Maybe, but he didn't sign with Vegas until after Krug was signed signaling The Blues had moved on.

Before Krug was signed, Petro formally turned down the Blues again. The Blues initially gave him 1 year less term but higher average. Petro's camp wasn't happy with that as they wanted full NMC, by the time the whole proceedings got done, he had gotten the exact same offer that Vegas offered him but Petro didn't like how it went down and declined it.

If Petro wanted to be in STL he would have been in STL. During that covid season he had repeatedly said he'd like to play in front of his family in Toronto as he has played in front of his wifes family in STL. Was there any truth to this? WHo knows. TO me it always looked like a way to force the Blues to the bargaining table and get leverage on them. The fact that he didn't end up signing in Toronto kind of alludes to that.

While that is an Army fumble, that example wasn't necessarily in his control. I know a lot of you guys have disagreed with me, but the Oshie decision was 100 percent in Army's control. He gets the blame or credit for making that move. TJ even did an interview I think with the Tkachuks where he said he had 0 desire to leave STL. He felt almost a bit blind sided because he felt like they were blaming him for the playoffs not going well and he thought he was giving maximum effort. As someone else noted, that was really more of a culture trade than anything, very familiar with the Kyrou recent trade I believe.

If Petro had wanted to leave he would've signed a contract before Army surprised everyone with the Krug signing. This is supposition from everyone whether he did or didn't want to stay. He accepted the Vegas offer only after the Blues signed Krug and there would've been little to no money for Petro.

Oshie was done here. He was calling out the coach publicly and in the playoffs his last year was awful. I think he had one goal that bounced off him. He needed to move on for a fresh start. Hopefully we get the same bump from McTavish that Oshie did from moving on.

I mean you can say what you think happened with Petro and Krug. But Army flat out said Petro got the same offer eventually from the Blues that Vegas offered, the relationship had soured by that point. He regrets not getting to that point sooner and thinks that's the reason a deal didn't get done. But they didn't sign Krug instead of signing Petro. They signed Krug because they realized a deal couldn't get done with Petro and he was about to take the Vegas offer. That was right from Army's mouth. Can't remember if it was last years end of the year wrap up or 2 years ago when he talked about it being one of the biggest regrets he's had.