Can someone tell me why the cardinals are not the dodgers?

[Strummer Jones]

LA, thanks to a sweetheart deal, gets to keep every penny for their broadcasting deal. All other 29 teams put their broadcasting money into a pot that then gets shared evenly. It starts there. That goes back to when Frank McCort sold the Dodgers however long ago. Why? I don't have the particulars.

That, plus their broadcasting market being...LA...do the math...gets them here every time.

So if you see some chud saying that you're mad because your team won't spend like LA... it's not true. My team won't, no doubt. But it also can't. Literally can't. Even if they had the same sweetheart deal.

While this is true, even if they didn't it wouldn't matter. The Dodgers ownership group has pretty much unlimited spending power just from their own pockets outside of any team revenue. For instance, they could eat bad contracts and throw another one in it's place and not sweat a bit. They could loss hundreds of millions every year and write it off like it's nothing.

Also demonstrably true.

[moose-and-squirrel]

This a serious question?

this

[Futuregm2]

For some unknown reason, going back to the Garvey Cey, Valensuala days, and continuous since then, their scouting and player development has been light years ahead of everyone else.
Now throw in the TV deals, and the fact that Japan continues to print monopoly money for them , its kind of an unbeatable formula..

They put more money into it than anyone. The technology they had was the best. I remember 15 years ago when I was trying to get internships in baseball the Dodgers were the team everyone wanted to be with because of that. And that was 15 years ago, so I'm sure it's even more now.

[Jatalk]

Because the Dodgers have a lot more money to spend on everything that makes them better:

1) MLB salaries
2) Player development
3) Scouting and analytics departments

etc.

You are correct there is much more to it than $$$. I will also say they are better marketers than this organization regardless of their market size.

It's not too difficult to market a team of superstars including a one of a kind guy like Ohtani.

All of their advantages are the result of them being able to print money in that market.

Which superstar player do the Cards currently have to market?

They have the brains in LA to spend for the stars and then market them. The fact the Cards don’t have a superstar is their own fault because they can’t see past their nose.

[Melville]

A dying city versus a thriving city.

Can you please cite some reasons that point to LA as a thriving city at present?

Economics.
The GDP of Los Angeles is triple that of the entire state of Missouri.

[WeeVikes]

Because the Dodgers have a lot more money to spend on everything that makes them better:

1) MLB salaries
2) Player development
3) Scouting and analytics departments

etc.

You are correct there is much more to it than $$$. I will also say they are better marketers than this organization regardless of their market size.

It's not too difficult to market a team of superstars including a one of a kind guy like Ohtani.

All of their advantages are the result of them being able to print money in that market.

Which superstar player do the Cards currently have to market?

They have the brains in LA to spend for the stars and then market them. The fact the Cards don’t have a superstar is their own fault because they can’t see past their nose.

To play Devil’s advocate, they can spend for the stars due to the revenue from a much larger market, and can market them to said huge market, one much larger than StL. That’s reality, and one the Cardinals need to be smart to overcome.

[Ozziesfan41]

When the money dynamics changed, we were no longer able to compete. The MLB needs to adopt the NBA style of contracts and salary cap.

The money dynamics didn’t hurt the cardinals chance to compete a terrible front office did

[HOUCARD]

Dodgers print money and care nothing about the luxury tax. They are singlehandedly destroying the game.

[HOUCARD]

This a serious question?

Up all night I could not sleep. The whiskey that I drank was cheap. With shakin hands i went and I lit up my last cigarette….

Except they didn't. Going to see them for the umpteenth time in August. Johnson and McDonald are both singing.

[Ozziesfan41]

Dodgers print money and care nothing about the luxury tax. They are singlehandedly destroying the game.

The printing money is only part of it the Mets and Padres print and spend money and don’t win anything the dodgers have one of if not the best front offices, draft and development systems and they print money

[HOUCARD]

LA, thanks to a sweetheart deal, gets to keep every penny for their broadcasting deal. All other 29 teams put their broadcasting money into a pot that then gets shared evenly. It starts there. That goes back to when Frank McCort sold the Dodgers however long ago. Why? I don't have the particulars.

That, plus their broadcasting market being...LA...do the math...gets them here every time.

So if you see some chud saying that you're mad because your team won't spend like LA... it's not true. My team won't, no doubt. But it also can't. Literally can't. Even if they had the same sweetheart deal.

While this is true, even if they didn't it wouldn't matter. The Dodgers ownership group has pretty much unlimited spending power just from their own pockets outside of any team revenue. For instance, they could eat bad contracts and throw another one in it's place and not sweat a bit. They could loss hundreds of millions every year and write it off like it's nothing.

Also demonstrably true.

And they have done it with Glasnow and Snell. They pay them millions, keep them on IR all year and break them out for starts just before the post season.

[Ozziesfan41]

LA, thanks to a sweetheart deal, gets to keep every penny for their broadcasting deal. All other 29 teams put their broadcasting money into a pot that then gets shared evenly. It starts there. That goes back to when Frank McCort sold the Dodgers however long ago. Why? I don't have the particulars.

That, plus their broadcasting market being...LA...do the math...gets them here every time.

So if you see some chud saying that you're mad because your team won't spend like LA... it's not true. My team won't, no doubt. But it also can't. Literally can't. Even if they had the same sweetheart deal.

While this is true, even if they didn't it wouldn't matter. The Dodgers ownership group has pretty much unlimited spending power just from their own pockets outside of any team revenue. For instance, they could eat bad contracts and throw another one in it's place and not sweat a bit. They could loss hundreds of millions every year and write it off like it's nothing.

Also demonstrably true.

And they have done it with Glasnow and Snell. They pay them millions, keep them on IR all year and break them out for starts just before the post season.

Yea quite the coincidence their starters all get healthy at once for the post season lol

[ClassicO]

Let’s see st.louis 11 World Series championships and Los Angeles 9 ,

Most of which came when St. Louis was a major city.
1950 - 8th largest City in US with around 700,000 residents. It was the 7th or 8th ever since the 30s.
1968 - 15th to 17th largest
Today - 89th in total U.S. city population with roughly 273,000 residents
Even the metro population is 27th largest. A very small market in a location that sucks.

[woofy25]

A dying city versus a thriving city.

Can you please cite some reasons that point to LA as a thriving city at present?

Economics.
The GDP of Los Angeles is triple that of the entire state of Missouri.

The city is facing lower than projected tax revenue, huge legal liabilities, huge budget shortfalls. It’s essentially an insolvent city. Homelessness is up despite billions of dollars thrown at the problem. The wildfires were managed terribly and the aftermath is getting managed worse. The population growth is negative and Hollywood is dying. Thriving is not the adjective I’d use

[JuanAgosto]

Dodgers owners spend money on top talent.

[HOUCARD]

A dying city versus a thriving city.

Can you please cite some reasons that point to LA as a thriving city at present?

Economics.
The GDP of Los Angeles is triple that of the entire state of Missouri.

That and the quality of life thing.......beaches, perfect climate, night life, resturants, entertainment. The list is pretty much endless.