Can someone tell me why the cardinals are not the dodgers?

[45s]

Let’s see st.louis 11 World Series championships and Los Angeles 9 ,

the dynamics of the entire industry have changed dramatically since those StL championships

they are irrelevant in the current environment

[sikeston bulldog2]

This a serious question?

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[CCard]

Tradition and great fan support and cardinal baseball has become what it is today , as the dodgers continue their dominance.Does it all start with ownership?

To begin with, there's a large difference in the size of the fan base. Also, California has something like the world's 6th largest economy. Not America's, the world's. Thirdly, they don't mind spending money beyond the luxury tax because they know that if they put a premium product on the field it will make money. And lastly, they want to win at all cost and the Cards ownership only wants to win if they can do it cheaply.

[Jatalk]

Because the Dodgers have a lot more money to spend on everything that makes them better:

1) MLB salaries
2) Player development
3) Scouting and analytics departments

etc.

You are correct there is much more to it than $$$. I will also say they are better marketers than this organization regardless of their market size.

[billybaseball]

The Dodgers have unlimited money glitch. Their ownership group could easily absorb hubdreds of millions in losses if need be. They could over pay and acquire every single star player if they wanted. It's not good for baseball when every market is in a constant state of just waiting for their star player to end up in LA or NYM. The Mets have done a terrible job of actually building a winning culture but when/if they do it will suck the life out of baseball. About 2-4 other teams that can spend big too but not on the levels of LA(1) and the Mets(2). If this hasn't made it clear why MLB desperately needs a cap system then I don't know what we're even doing.

[Backesdraft]

I for one can’t wait for the lockout. The whole system needs to be reconfigured. It’s a total joke right now.

[cardinalsfever44]

Because the Dodgers have a lot more money to spend on everything that makes them better:

1) MLB salaries
2) Player development
3) Scouting and analytics departments

etc.

You are correct there is much more to it than $$$. I will also say they are better marketers than this organization regardless of their market size.

It's not too difficult to market a team of superstars including a one of a kind guy like Ohtani.

All of their advantages are the result of them being able to print money in that market.

Which superstar player do the Cards currently have to market?

[Strummer Jones]

LA, thanks to a sweetheart deal, gets to keep every penny for their broadcasting deal. All other 29 teams put their broadcasting money into a pot that then gets shared evenly. It starts there. That goes back to when Frank McCort sold the Dodgers however long ago. Why? I don't have the particulars.

That, plus their broadcasting market being...LA...do the math...gets them here every time.

So if you see some chud saying that you're mad because your team won't spend like LA... it's not true. My team won't, no doubt. But it also can't. Literally can't. Even if they had the same sweetheart deal.

[billybaseball]

LA, thanks to a sweetheart deal, gets to keep every penny for their broadcasting deal. All other 29 teams put their broadcasting money into a pot that then gets shared evenly. It starts there. That goes back to when Frank McCort sold the Dodgers however long ago. Why? I don't have the particulars.

That, plus their broadcasting market being...LA...do the math...gets them here every time.

So if you see some chud saying that you're mad because your team won't spend like LA... it's not true. My team won't, no doubt. But it also can't. Literally can't. Even if they had the same sweetheart deal.

While this is true, even if they didn't it wouldn't matter. The Dodgers ownership group has pretty much unlimited spending power just from their own pockets outside of any team revenue. For instance, they could eat bad contracts and throw another one in it's place and not sweat a bit. They could loss hundreds of millions every year and write it off like it's nothing.

[Goldfan]

Dodgers have a consortium of Billionaire owners who spend to an almost 0 income level. BDW doesn’t want partners like that.

[Swuhgen]

Tradition and great fan support and cardinal baseball has become what it is today , as the dodgers continue their dominance.Does it all start with ownership?

You can’t be serious with that question.

[woofy25]

A dying city versus a thriving city.

Can you please cite some reasons that point to LA as a thriving city at present?

[Mort Gage]

Tradition and great fan support and cardinal baseball has become what it is today , as the dodgers continue their dominance.Does it all start with ownership?

The answer to this question is simple. The Cardinals are not the Dodgers because they are...the Cardinals.

[woofy25]

A dying city versus a thriving city.

Can you please cite some reasons that point to LA as a thriving city at present?

[rockondlouie]

Because they play in St. Louis and not L.A.?

[The__IcemaN]

When the money dynamics changed, we were no longer able to compete. The MLB needs to adopt the NBA style of contracts and salary cap.