Bloom should be embarrassed by this bullpen he has put together

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Re: Bloom should be embarrassed by this bullpen he has put together

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Melville wrote: 01 Aug 2026 16:40 pm When it collapses like clockwork every July, it is the manager and not the front office at fault.
Who picks the manager?
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The bullpen is about to get very much worse in 2 days. Avert your eyes the rest of the season. It ain't going to be pretty.
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11WSChamps wrote: 01 Aug 2026 17:09 pm
Melville wrote: 01 Aug 2026 16:40 pm When it collapses like clockwork every July, it is the manager and not the front office at fault.
Who picks the manager?
DeWitt.
Next question, please.
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Melville is right. Never should have extended Marmol.
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Web7 wrote: 01 Aug 2026 16:32 pm I told everybody all winter that this was not a rebuild…… This is nothing more than a salary dump before the lockout….. I guess we’ll see what they do after the lockout
One of the dumbest people alive tries to explain to people things about stuff he doesn’t understand and then gloats about it later.
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This bullpen is a embarrassment. Isn't there anyone down there in the minors that can be a little competitive? Surely the long hair guy can't be the best or if so they are in big trouble.
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Web7 wrote: 01 Aug 2026 16:24 pm These guys would not be on any other major league roster …. I mean they are calling this a rebuild… What in the heck are they building around?
If you have the entire team already put together it’s not a rebuild lol I don’t think you’ve figured out what a rebuild is. They are rebuilding the farm system and figuring out which players can form a core to rebuild around that’s step one of any rebuild it’s not hard to figure out how the rebuild looks. They found out pallante mcgreevy are solid starters they found out lehay can make the move the move to the rotation and those three form a solid 3,4,5 they brought up Matthew’s to give him experience in the rotation. They know now once and for all Gorman isn’t a unicorn who will be part of the core same with Scott and probably church. They found out JJ and walker could be part of a core as well as possibly herrera and burly.
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Web7 wrote: 01 Aug 2026 16:24 pm These guys would not be on any other major league roster …. I mean they are calling this a rebuild… What in the heck are they building around?
A revamped minor league player development system.
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Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 01 Aug 2026 18:49 pm
Web7 wrote: 01 Aug 2026 16:32 pm I told everybody all winter that this was not a rebuild…… This is nothing more than a salary dump before the lockout….. I guess we’ll see what they do after the lockout
One of the dumbest people alive tries to explain to people things about stuff he doesn’t understand and then gloats about it later.
Like he said months ago> It’s “BAZAAR”
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Re: Bloom should be embarrassed by this bullpen he has put together

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People act like this was supposed to be a competitive year.

Bloom never promised that. They aren't quite saying rebuilding but he has indicated that moves are pointed towards the future as the top priority.

If, in 2028, they aren't seriously challenging to make noise in the playoffs and we are talking about next year, up and coming players and made no bold moves to upgrade the major league team in the preseason, then i will pick up a pitchfork too.

Main thing I wanted this year is player development, continued strengthening of farm system, finding our who is part of the future and doing it without having a sub 60 win season.

Assuming no strike, next year should be closer and 2028 is the year to expect a breakout.
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Re: Bloom should be embarrassed by this bullpen he has put together

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Melville wrote: 01 Aug 2026 18:10 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 01 Aug 2026 17:09 pm
Melville wrote: 01 Aug 2026 16:40 pm When it collapses like clockwork every July, it is the manager and not the front office at fault.
Who picks the manager?
DeWitt.
Next question, please.
You get into a baseball discussion with me you'll be lucky to finish third.

Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Who did ownership hire to hire the manager?
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TheFantasyStud wrote: 01 Aug 2026 18:17 pm Melville is right. Never should have extended Marmol.
Nobody is disagreeing that was a mistake.

Wake up.
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Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 01 Aug 2026 18:49 pm
Web7 wrote: 01 Aug 2026 16:32 pm I told everybody all winter that this was not a rebuild…… This is nothing more than a salary dump before the lockout….. I guess we’ll see what they do after the lockout
One of the dumbest people alive tries to explain to people things about stuff he doesn’t understand and then gloats about it later.
It truly drives you crazy that I’m usually right and well you don’t know your rear from a hole in the ground….. but keep the insults coming… I guess it helps you cope
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Re: Bloom should be embarrassed by this bullpen he has put together

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11WSChamps wrote: 01 Aug 2026 20:28 pm
Melville wrote: 01 Aug 2026 18:10 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 01 Aug 2026 17:09 pm
Melville wrote: 01 Aug 2026 16:40 pm When it collapses like clockwork every July, it is the manager and not the front office at fault.
Who picks the manager?
DeWitt.
Next question, please.
You get into a baseball discussion with me you'll be lucky to finish third.

Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Who did ownership hire to hire the manager?
DeWitt hired The Marmot long before Bloom joined the organization.
Chaim had no say in the matter.
I must admit to being a bit surprised that you were unaware of that fact.
Now, if I were an unkind person, I might be tempted to conclude that if you got into a baseball conversation with yourself, neither of you would learn a thing.
But, I am too gracious and too much the gentleman to go down that route.
I am only and always about the game.
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Re: Bloom should be embarrassed by this bullpen he has put together

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TheFantasyStud wrote: 01 Aug 2026 18:17 pm Melville is right. Never should have extended Marmol.
There were many who were rightfully aware that the extension never should have happened.
It should have been painfully obvious to anyone who knows and understands this game.
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Re: Bloom should be embarrassed by this bullpen he has put together

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TimTheTechies wrote: 01 Aug 2026 17:02 pm
Melville wrote: 01 Aug 2026 16:40 pm When it collapses like clockwork every July, it is the manager and not the front office at fault.
For once , I agree with Melville
Pretty obvious, isn't it?