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Re: Who is Bloom trading

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rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 14:30 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 27 Jul 2026 14:04 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:26 pm
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 12:56 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 12:55 pm
Goldfan wrote: 27 Jul 2026 11:14 am Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal
I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.
I have not liked what I've seen with JJ at short. I think trading Winn would be a huge mistake at this point in time.
Respect your opinion cf44

I've watched JJW there too

I think he'd be a "+" defender, no where near Winn level, but the offensive upgrade would be dramatic.

2nd base is also an easier position to find his replacement.
No way he would be a + defender at SS. His arm alone is a major downgrade. Don't fall into the group that only looks at offense.
No issue there Juan, I think I understand the situation. :wink:

Funny, I had some disagreement w/some guys in here this past winter when I posted the glove work I saw on some videos from JJW told me he'd be a "+" defender at 2nd base. Now he's the best in MLB.

You're use to Winn's arm, not many have ever had that type of hose.

JJW could handle SS and IMO would be a "+" defender there too though not as good as he is at 2nd base.
I really cannot think of a single reason to change the SS/2B combo we have right now. Offense can come from other places than SS. It isn't like Winn has no stick, he's just not elite offensively. Good teams live with that and adjust.
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Re: Who is Bloom trading

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rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 14:30 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 27 Jul 2026 14:04 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:26 pm
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 12:56 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 12:55 pm
Goldfan wrote: 27 Jul 2026 11:14 am Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal
I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.
I have not liked what I've seen with JJ at short. I think trading Winn would be a huge mistake at this point in time.
Respect your opinion cf44

I've watched JJW there too

I think he'd be a "+" defender, no where near Winn level, but the offensive upgrade would be dramatic.

2nd base is also an easier position to find his replacement.
No way he would be a + defender at SS. His arm alone is a major downgrade. Don't fall into the group that only looks at offense.
No issue there Juan, I think I understand the situation. :wink:

Funny, I had some disagreement w/some guys in here this past winter when I posted the glove work I saw on some videos from JJW told me he'd be a "+" defender at 2nd base. Now he's the best in MLB.

You're use to Winn's arm, not many have ever had that type of hose.

JJW could handle SS and IMO would be a "+" defender there too though not as good as he is at 2nd base.
I understand, Rock. But I prefer JJ at his current position. Reminds me of Utley. Add bats at 3b and the OF.
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Re: Who is Bloom trading

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Yanks Bellinger has ham string strain on IL with Judge. Noots and Pages or Crooks, ???? for Laland or Facundo - LHP in A or Hess - RHP in AA. Or players a person well versed on minors could recommend.
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Re: Who is Bloom trading

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Nootbaar, Pages

May, Stanek, Romero, O'Brien
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Re: Who is Bloom trading

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hornetfb52 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 12:43 pm I’m not advocating for trading anyone except the expected. However, bloom has no real connections to anyone. If someone comes in with a good offer for Burly or Winn I could see him doing it. Walker and JJW are the only real likely untouchables. That said, I expect May, Romero and Stanek to go. Think they’ll hold onto ROB and Noot
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WHY would anyone trade Burly, the one guy on this team that actually hits? Just a completely insane idea!
.289/.348/.471/.820
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Re: Who is Bloom trading

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rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 12:55 pm
Goldfan wrote: 27 Jul 2026 11:14 am Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal
I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.
:roll:
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Re: Who is Bloom trading

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imetsatchelpaige wrote: 27 Jul 2026 16:40 pm
hornetfb52 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 12:43 pm I’m not advocating for trading anyone except the expected. However, bloom has no real connections to anyone. If someone comes in with a good offer for Burly or Winn I could see him doing it. Walker and JJW are the only real likely untouchables. That said, I expect May, Romero and Stanek to go. Think they’ll hold onto ROB and Noot
i
WHY would anyone trade Burly, the one guy on this team that actually hits? Just a completely insane idea!
.289/.348/.471/.820
Like I said, not advocating for it, just pointing out that bloom has no attachment. If a team came to him with an over the top offer, he might take it.
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Re: Who is Bloom trading

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hornetfb52 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 16:49 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 27 Jul 2026 16:40 pm
hornetfb52 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 12:43 pm I’m not advocating for trading anyone except the expected. However, bloom has no real connections to anyone. If someone comes in with a good offer for Burly or Winn I could see him doing it. Walker and JJW are the only real likely untouchables. That said, I expect May, Romero and Stanek to go. Think they’ll hold onto ROB and Noot
i
WHY would anyone trade Burly, the one guy on this team that actually hits? Just a completely insane idea!
.289/.348/.471/.820
Like I said, not advocating for it, just pointing out that bloom has no attachment. If a team came to him with an over the top offer, he might take it.
Guys still have good hitter on bad roster syndrome. Of course he would take it.
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Re: Who is Bloom trading

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hugeCardfan wrote: 27 Jul 2026 14:43 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 14:30 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 27 Jul 2026 14:04 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:26 pm
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 12:56 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 12:55 pm
Goldfan wrote: 27 Jul 2026 11:14 am Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal
I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.
I have not liked what I've seen with JJ at short. I think trading Winn would be a huge mistake at this point in time.
Respect your opinion cf44

I've watched JJW there too

I think he'd be a "+" defender, no where near Winn level, but the offensive upgrade would be dramatic.

2nd base is also an easier position to find his replacement.
No way he would be a + defender at SS. His arm alone is a major downgrade. Don't fall into the group that only looks at offense.
No issue there Juan, I think I understand the situation. :wink:

Funny, I had some disagreement w/some guys in here this past winter when I posted the glove work I saw on some videos from JJW told me he'd be a "+" defender at 2nd base. Now he's the best in MLB.

You're use to Winn's arm, not many have ever had that type of hose.

JJW could handle SS and IMO would be a "+" defender there too though not as good as he is at 2nd base.
I really cannot think of a single reason to change the SS/2B combo we have right now. Offense can come from other places than SS. It isn't like Winn has no stick, he's just not elite offensively. Good teams live with that and adjust.
agree 110% Huge
very very well said IMO
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Re: Who is Bloom trading

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hugeCardfan wrote: 27 Jul 2026 14:43 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 14:30 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 27 Jul 2026 14:04 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:26 pm
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 12:56 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 12:55 pm
Goldfan wrote: 27 Jul 2026 11:14 am Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal
I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.
I have not liked what I've seen with JJ at short. I think trading Winn would be a huge mistake at this point in time.
Respect your opinion cf44

I've watched JJW there too

I think he'd be a "+" defender, no where near Winn level, but the offensive upgrade would be dramatic.

2nd base is also an easier position to find his replacement.
No way he would be a + defender at SS. His arm alone is a major downgrade. Don't fall into the group that only looks at offense.
No issue there Juan, I think I understand the situation. :wink:

Funny, I had some disagreement w/some guys in here this past winter when I posted the glove work I saw on some videos from JJW told me he'd be a "+" defender at 2nd base. Now he's the best in MLB.

You're use to Winn's arm, not many have ever had that type of hose.

JJW could handle SS and IMO would be a "+" defender there too though not as good as he is at 2nd base.
I really cannot think of a single reason to change the SS/2B combo we have right now. Offense can come from other places than SS. It isn't like Winn has no stick, he's just not elite offensively. Good teams live with that and adjust.
Only of course if you traded Winn

But offense does indeed come from SS all around MLB

The days of Dal Maxvill, Mark Belanger types are over
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I’m picking one partly because I don’t think we will see more than that.

O’Brien. He’s controlled and valuable. A team will want him for 7,8 inning duties maybe closer if they have a gap there. This could bring back a nice pitching prospect for 2027.
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Re: Who is Bloom trading

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Goldfan wrote: 27 Jul 2026 11:14 am Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal
Which Cards players are other teams "buying" is the real question. What are those "buyers" willing to give in return is the next question. Bloom may get underwhelmed by the offers he receives for the players he wants to move, but might get bowled over by an offer for one of our "keepers". You just never know. I do trust Bloom more than I ever trusted Mo.
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I’m more interested in what Bloom wants to trade for? Third baseman? Outfielder? Major league ready pitching? Clearing salary and dead weight like Noot, May, Stanek, and others is clearly a goal but what would we get back?
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Galatians221jb1 wrote: 28 Jul 2026 12:27 pm I’m more interested in what Bloom wants to trade for? Third baseman? Outfielder? Major league ready pitching? Clearing salary and dead weight like Noot, May, Stanek, and others is clearly a goal but what would we get back?
Any of the aforementioned should be targets.
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Galatians221jb1 wrote: 28 Jul 2026 12:27 pm I’m more interested in what Bloom wants to trade for? Third baseman? Outfielder? Major league ready pitching? Clearing salary and dead weight like Noot, May, Stanek, and others is clearly a goal but what would we get back?
Primarily pitching. 3B would be nice, but I’m doubting they find a fit there. Outfielders I’d be shocked.
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Anyone who thinks that Winn is or should be untouchable is just foolish. We don’t have to give him away but in the right deal Winn is certainly tradeable. Like others have said, the SS position has evolved into more of an offensive role. It is quite possible to find a SS with a good glove AND be able to help offensively.

Part of the issue is Marmol is trying to force Winn to be something maybe he just isn’t. Winn hitting leadoff, Winn hitting cleanup, just ridiculous asks. Even now, hitting him in the 5 or 6 hole is more than he should be asked to do. Hit Winn eight or ninth and let his glove play. Should we trade Winn, not necessarily but not out of the realm of possibility.