JJW since he signed his extension

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Re: JJW since he signed his extension

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rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 14:34 pm For perspective

JJW before signing the extension on 7/10

6/15 - 7/9

100 PA's
11 Strikeouts
.314 .385 .453 .839

After signing the extension on 7/10

58 PA
12 Strikeouts
.157 .259 .275 .533
Cold about the cold streaks he went through before he signed it was it because he was thinking about signing it?
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Re: JJW since he signed his extension

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I have posted this in a couple of different threads. The problems with the team aren’t in the moves that they have made but in the players on the team, specifically at the top. Both Wetherholt and Herrera have been struggling at the same time at the top of the order. Walker and Burleson have both been hitting the ball but their RBIs have stagnated because the guys at the top aren’t creating the same opportunities that they were earlier in the year.

I’m not knocking those two, I’m a fan of theirs, but the offense has slowed because they are struggling to get on base. Wetherholt and Herrera seem to be the engine that moves this car. Our offense will pick up when those two start getting on base again.
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Re: JJW since he signed his extension

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:38 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:10 pm In no way is this a shot at JJW who I'm already a HUGE fan of and think becomes the face of the franchise as early as next year.

I also think he's by far and away the leader for ROY given his terrific 3.8 fWAR!

This is just an observation, NOT a criticism.

It seems since he inked his long-term extension he's trying too hard to live up to it and putting some undo pressure on himself.

I was at the game the other day, not sure the TV mics picked up on it, but I could hear him let a loud " F word" after striking out again.

Since signing his extension on 7/10:

58 PA
12 Strikeouts
.157 .259 .275 .533


Likely just a rough rookie year stretch and again NOT a criticism, just an observation.

If anything he's trying too hard and given the outburst of frustration I heard the other day at the ballpark he might be letting it get to him.

Hopefully Oli or one of the coaches takes him aside and reassures him he doesn't have anything to prove, he's already done that as evidence by that great 3.8 fWAR.

(Now watch he'll get 10 hits vs the Scrubbies in this four game series...........I'll be at a couple of those games cheering him on and sure hope so!)
A. Reason why JW has no RBI.
Walker hasn’t done much since HR Derby. He should be hitting third not second in the lineup. Walker is/should be the offensive leader on the team.
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Re: JJW since he signed his extension

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12xu wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:26 pm
hornetfb52 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:15 pm MLB baseball is tough
Oh yes, and a rookie is bound to endure a rough stretch or two during the long season they have never experienced. We should be patient with JJ, who is among the best fielding second sackers in the game today, and still has a OBP of .349. Even though he did not get a hit vs the Reds in 3 games, he reached base 4 times and scored 3 runs. He is pulling the ball too much lately, and needs to hit more to left field.
Correct
Baseball is a constant series of adjustments.
JJ came on the scene and produced.
The opposition adjusted.
Now JJ will readjust.
Etc etc
It will be constant and ongoing but the kid clearly has the tools to succeed.
He is the least of our problems.
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Re: JJW since he signed his extension

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rightthinker4 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 14:56 pm
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:38 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:10 pm In no way is this a shot at JJW who I'm already a HUGE fan of and think becomes the face of the franchise as early as next year.

I also think he's by far and away the leader for ROY given his terrific 3.8 fWAR!

This is just an observation, NOT a criticism.

It seems since he inked his long-term extension he's trying too hard to live up to it and putting some undo pressure on himself.

I was at the game the other day, not sure the TV mics picked up on it, but I could hear him let a loud " F word" after striking out again.

Since signing his extension on 7/10:

58 PA
12 Strikeouts
.157 .259 .275 .533


Likely just a rough rookie year stretch and again NOT a criticism, just an observation.

If anything he's trying too hard and given the outburst of frustration I heard the other day at the ballpark he might be letting it get to him.

Hopefully Oli or one of the coaches takes him aside and reassures him he doesn't have anything to prove, he's already done that as evidence by that great 3.8 fWAR.

(Now watch he'll get 10 hits vs the Scrubbies in this four game series...........I'll be at a couple of those games cheering him on and sure hope so!)
A. Reason why JW has no RBI.
Walker hasn’t done much since HR Derby. He should be hitting third not second in the lineup. Walker is/should be the offensive leader on the team.
Herrera and church and most of the team hast done much since the derby either
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Re: JJW since he signed his extension

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rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 14:34 pm For perspective

JJW before signing the extension on 7/10

6/15 - 7/9

100 PA's
11 Strikeouts
.314 .385 .453 .839

After signing the extension on 7/10

58 PA
12 Strikeouts
.157 .259 .275 .533
Posted the other day that he's struggled since 6/23

125 PA's
22 strikeouts
.205 .288 .304 .592

He was really hot right before that though

6/12 to 6/23
43 PA's
5 strikeouts
.421 .488 .684 1.173
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Re: JJW since he signed his extension

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Francis Park Thug wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:29 pm
hornetfb52 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:15 pm MLB baseball is tough
Rough weekend for JJ.
Zero hits in the 3 games. {3 walks}
ROY slipping away?
They should cut him. Three whole games without a hit. Unacceptable. Albert Pujols never went three games without a hit.
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Re: JJW since he signed his extension

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Cardinals1964 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 15:25 pm
Francis Park Thug wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:29 pm
hornetfb52 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:15 pm MLB baseball is tough
Rough weekend for JJ.
Zero hits in the 3 games. {3 walks}
ROY slipping away?
They should cut him. Three whole games without a hit. Unacceptable. Albert Pujols never went three games without a hit.
Why do you have to be an insufferable punk with every post? The OP is simply pointing out the timing of JJ's slump. Not advocating a benching, trade, or release.

Stop being a pud.
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Re: JJW since he signed his extension

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JuanAgosto wrote: 27 Jul 2026 15:31 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 15:25 pm
Francis Park Thug wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:29 pm
hornetfb52 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:15 pm MLB baseball is tough
Rough weekend for JJ.
Zero hits in the 3 games. {3 walks}
ROY slipping away?
They should cut him. Three whole games without a hit. Unacceptable. Albert Pujols never went three games without a hit.
Why do you have to be an insufferable punk with every post? The OP is simply pointing out the timing of JJ's slump. Not advocating a benching, trade, or release.

Stop being a pud.

Not that I support the puddly reply, but CT does tru and over analyze why a player goes into a slump, when the truth is, every player in the league has stretches like this.
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Re: JJW since he signed his extension

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RamFan08NY wrote: 27 Jul 2026 15:42 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 27 Jul 2026 15:31 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 15:25 pm
Francis Park Thug wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:29 pm
hornetfb52 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:15 pm MLB baseball is tough
Rough weekend for JJ.
Zero hits in the 3 games. {3 walks}
ROY slipping away?
They should cut him. Three whole games without a hit. Unacceptable. Albert Pujols never went three games without a hit.
Why do you have to be an insufferable punk with every post? The OP is simply pointing out the timing of JJ's slump. Not advocating a benching, trade, or release.

Stop being a pud.

Not that I support the puddly reply, but CT does tru and over analyze why a player goes into a slump, when the truth is, every player in the league has stretches like this.
That poster goes out of the way to be an (donkey) with almost every post. He is also a huge coward that will send a hateful dm and immediately block responses. A real p.o.s.
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Re: JJW since he signed his extension

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Wetherholt is the last player on this team I'm worried about.

He will outplay his contract.

He's a rookie and its his first season and it can be daunting to answer the bell everyday and its not even August yet.

Someday he'll be wearing a Red Jacket.
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Re: JJW since he signed his extension

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11WSChamps wrote: 27 Jul 2026 17:10 pm Wetherholt is the last player on this team I'm worried about.

He will outplay his contract.

He's a rookie and its his first season and it can be daunting to answer the bell everyday and its not even August yet.

Someday he'll be wearing a Red Jacket.
Spot on.
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Re: JJW since he signed his extension

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11WSChamps wrote: 27 Jul 2026 17:10 pm Wetherholt is the last player on this team I'm worried about.

He will outplay his contract.

He's a rookie and its his first season and it can be daunting to answer the bell everyday and its not even August yet.

Someday he'll be wearing a Red Jacket.
Agree. 100%.
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Re: JJW since he signed his extension

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RamFan08NY wrote: 27 Jul 2026 15:42 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 27 Jul 2026 15:31 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 15:25 pm
Francis Park Thug wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:29 pm
hornetfb52 wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:15 pm MLB baseball is tough
Rough weekend for JJ.
Zero hits in the 3 games. {3 walks}
ROY slipping away?
They should cut him. Three whole games without a hit. Unacceptable. Albert Pujols never went three games without a hit.
Why do you have to be an insufferable punk with every post? The OP is simply pointing out the timing of JJ's slump. Not advocating a benching, trade, or release.

Stop being a pud.

Not that I support the puddly reply, but CT does tru and over analyze why a player goes into a slump, when the truth is, every player in the league has stretches like this.
Exactly and some people are too stupid to get it. Idiot JA keeps trying to engage me. He’s too mentally unstable. But he’ll keep trying because that’s what people like him do.
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Re: JJW since he signed his extension

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rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 13:10 pm In no way is this a shot at JJW who I'm already a HUGE fan of and think becomes the face of the franchise as early as next year.

I also think he's by far and away the leader for ROY given his terrific 3.8 fWAR!

This is just an observation, NOT a criticism.

It seems since he inked his long-term extension he's trying too hard to live up to it and putting some undo pressure on himself.

I was at the game the other day, not sure the TV mics picked up on it, but I could hear him let a loud " F word" after striking out again.

Since signing his extension on 7/10:

58 PA
12 Strikeouts
.157 .259 .275 .533


Likely just a rough rookie year stretch and again NOT a criticism, just an observation.

If anything he's trying too hard and given the outburst of frustration I heard the other day at the ballpark he might be letting it get to him.

Hopefully Oli or one of the coaches takes him aside and reassures him he doesn't have anything to prove, he's already done that as evidence by that great 3.8 fWAR.

(Now watch he'll get 10 hits vs the Scrubbies in this four game series...........I'll be at a couple of those games cheering him on and sure hope so!)
Your observations and stats are valid…

There is no need to defend or apologize for them…..
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Re: JJW since he signed his extension

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cosmo.kramer wrote: 27 Jul 2026 15:14 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2026 14:34 pm For perspective

JJW before signing the extension on 7/10

6/15 - 7/9

100 PA's
11 Strikeouts
.314 .385 .453 .839

After signing the extension on 7/10

58 PA
12 Strikeouts
.157 .259 .275 .533
Posted the other day that he's struggled since 6/23

125 PA's
22 strikeouts
.205 .288 .304 .592

He was really hot right before that though

6/12 to 6/23
43 PA's
5 strikeouts
.421 .488 .684 1.173
Missed that CK.......... and we're both on the same track

I sure hope he's not hurting his ROY chances (and he shouldn't be given his huge lead in fWAR over the competition.