Do 2-3 Significant Things

Welcome to STLtoday.com's forum for fans of the St. Louis Cardinals.

Moderators: STLtoday Forum Moderators, Cards Talk Moderators

Talkin' Baseball
Forum User
Posts: 4733
Joined: 11 Feb 2018 12:39 pm

Do 2-3 Significant Things

Post by Talkin' Baseball »

Over the next few days I'm going to float several different trade proposals. I don't think we should trade the whole team, but it may seem like it. What I would like is for the team to float enough different things out there that before the deadline they can accomplish 2-3 significant additions. (I restrained myself and waited until the week before the deadline this year!)
JuanAgosto
Forum User
Posts: 8132
Joined: 01 Jul 2021 21:30 pm

Re: Do 2-3 Significant Things

Post by JuanAgosto »

Sounds fun.
BrockFloodMaris
Forum User
Posts: 3635
Joined: 06 Aug 2019 16:06 pm

Re: Do 2-3 Significant Things

Post by BrockFloodMaris »

Talkin' Baseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:33 pm Over the next few days I'm going to float several different trade proposals. I don't think we should trade the whole team, but it may seem like it. What I would like is for the team to float enough different things out there that before the deadline they can accomplish 2-3 significant additions. (I restrained myself and waited until the week before the deadline this year!)
Should be fun. For all the fans rooting for Bloom to buy at the trade deadline, let’s not forget that the Cards are only 3.5 games out of fifth place in the NLC.
Carp4Cy
Forum User
Posts: 4593
Joined: 23 May 2024 14:38 pm

Re: Do 2-3 Significant Things

Post by Carp4Cy »

I replied to one of your threads so far. I like that you’re targeting significant and not just prospect depth. Hoarding B class prospects is not going to move the needle far enough.
Talkin' Baseball
Forum User
Posts: 4733
Joined: 11 Feb 2018 12:39 pm

Re: Do 2-3 Significant Things

Post by Talkin' Baseball »

JuanAgosto wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:36 pm Sounds fun.
I hope so.
82birds
Forum User
Posts: 23224
Joined: 23 May 2024 18:17 pm

Re: Do 2-3 Significant Things

Post by 82birds »

Talkin' Baseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:33 pm Over the next few days I'm going to float several different trade proposals. I don't think we should trade the whole team, but it may seem like it. What I would like is for the team to float enough different things out there that before the deadline they can accomplish 2-3 significant additions. (I restrained myself and waited until the week before the deadline this year!)
Have at it.
I'll be reading.
Talkin' Baseball
Forum User
Posts: 4733
Joined: 11 Feb 2018 12:39 pm

Re: Do 2-3 Significant Things

Post by Talkin' Baseball »

Carp4Cy wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:40 pm I replied to one of your threads so far. I like that you’re targeting significant and not just prospect depth. Hoarding B class prospects is not going to move the needle far enough.
I don't mind prospects. Every team needs them, and the Cardinals got to a place where they suffered a lack. We needed to add prospects at all levels- especially pitching. We have done that. Not that we are done doing that, but I don't consider us to be at a deficit for prospects anymore. We need certain types of prospects. We've narrowed down a couple of positions of need. The prospects I want now fit in one of the following categories; close to major league ready, position of need (3B, CF), if further from the majors need to be high ceiling, or pitching is always welcome. If we're trading minor league roster redundancies, I'm less picky.
11WSChamps
Forum User
Posts: 6564
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:35 pm

Re: Do 2-3 Significant Things

Post by 11WSChamps »

Talkin' Baseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:33 pm Over the next few days I'm going to float several different trade proposals. I don't think we should trade the whole team, but it may seem like it. What I would like is for the team to float enough different things out there that before the deadline they can accomplish 2-3 significant additions. (I restrained myself and waited until the week before the deadline this year!)
Although it makes me cringe a little I can see Pallante being dealt.

You figure with a better team he would be even more effective, he doesn't cost much and it opens a rotation spot for next season.

I'm assuming you have May and Romero as definitely being traded?
Talkin' Baseball
Forum User
Posts: 4733
Joined: 11 Feb 2018 12:39 pm

Re: Do 2-3 Significant Things

Post by Talkin' Baseball »

11WSChamps wrote: 26 Jul 2026 18:23 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:33 pm Over the next few days I'm going to float several different trade proposals. I don't think we should trade the whole team, but it may seem like it. What I would like is for the team to float enough different things out there that before the deadline they can accomplish 2-3 significant additions. (I restrained myself and waited until the week before the deadline this year!)
Although it makes me cringe a little I can see Pallante being dealt.

You figure with a better team he would be even more effective, he doesn't cost much and it opens a rotation spot for next season.

I'm assuming you have May and Romero as definitely being traded?
Yes.
C-Unit
Forum User
Posts: 1249
Joined: 27 Sep 2025 01:05 am

Re: Do 2-3 Significant Things

Post by C-Unit »

Will be fun to see if any of your [shirt] actually happens
Jatalk
Forum User
Posts: 2992
Joined: 05 Apr 2024 08:33 am

Re: Do 2-3 Significant Things

Post by Jatalk »

Talkin' Baseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:33 pm Over the next few days I'm going to float several different trade proposals. I don't think we should trade the whole team, but it may seem like it. What I would like is for the team to float enough different things out there that before the deadline they can accomplish 2-3 significant additions. (I restrained myself and waited until the week before the deadline this year!)
I’m sorry I get a little lost with all the trade proposals. However I respect your research and thought process. But I can’t get straight in my head on how long before we go from rebuild to strong contenders.

I know 2027 is a dark hole right now but it just seems to me that spending some money on FA talent could get us there by 2028. When we discuss all these potential trades it just seems we are moving a lot further out than 2028.

Considering your trade options what is the overall impact on how long the rebuild lasts?

I’m rambling but I really wish I knew what the goal is for Bloom and the time table that is in his mind.
Talkin' Baseball
Forum User
Posts: 4733
Joined: 11 Feb 2018 12:39 pm

Re: Do 2-3 Significant Things

Post by Talkin' Baseball »

Jatalk wrote: 26 Jul 2026 19:10 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:33 pm Over the next few days I'm going to float several different trade proposals. I don't think we should trade the whole team, but it may seem like it. What I would like is for the team to float enough different things out there that before the deadline they can accomplish 2-3 significant additions. (I restrained myself and waited until the week before the deadline this year!)
I’m sorry I get a little lost with all the trade proposals. However I respect your research and thought process. But I can’t get straight in my head on how long before we go from rebuild to strong contenders.

I know 2027 is a dark hole right now but it just seems to me that spending some money on FA talent could get us there by 2028. When we discuss all these potential trades it just seems we are moving a lot further out than 2028.

Considering your trade options what is the overall impact on how long the rebuild lasts?

I’m rambling but I really wish I knew what the goal is for Bloom and the time table that is in his mind.
I see them as legit playoff contenders in 2027. To me that means they could win a wildcard and have a reasonable hope of advancing. In 2028 I see them as a legit division contender. To me that means they should compete for a division title and have a reasonable hope of advancing deeper. At that point they should have Rainiel Rodriguez and some of the better pitching arriving. In 2029 I expect them to be able to compete with anyone.

My expectation is that this should be our last year out of the playoffs for some time. Let's finish the heavy lifting.
Talkin' Baseball
Forum User
Posts: 4733
Joined: 11 Feb 2018 12:39 pm

Re: Do 2-3 Significant Things

Post by Talkin' Baseball »

C-Unit wrote: 26 Jul 2026 18:55 pm Will be fun to see if any of your [shirt] actually happens
If even one did, I'd be pretty stoked.
C-Unit
Forum User
Posts: 1249
Joined: 27 Sep 2025 01:05 am

Re: Do 2-3 Significant Things

Post by C-Unit »

I hear a lot of chatter about the Yankees. If Herrera were to be shopped (I am not insisting he should be), that seems like an ideal team of interest.
Talkin' Baseball
Forum User
Posts: 4733
Joined: 11 Feb 2018 12:39 pm

Re: Do 2-3 Significant Things

Post by Talkin' Baseball »

C-Unit wrote: 26 Jul 2026 19:53 pm I hear a lot of chatter about the Yankees. If Herrera were to be shopped (I am not insisting he should be), that seems like an ideal team of interest.
I'm sure they'd be interested. I sure don't like their system.
Hoosier59
Forum User
Posts: 2201
Joined: 16 Dec 2022 12:03 pm

Re: Do 2-3 Significant Things

Post by Hoosier59 »

I get your exercise is for fun, however there are some players that I’m not interested in dealing.
As they are currently pitching, I’m looking to keep McGreevy, Pallante, and Leahy. I’m surprised that I am including Leahy, because I’ve spoken out about him belonging in the pen. However, he is changing my mind. I think his biggest obstacle to overcome has been his self confidence, but now he knows he can pitch, and belongs. I’m not trading him now when he’s just touching his ability.
I’d add Mathews to that group, and that’s four pitchers for the rotation. No body else is close in the minors, so I’d look to add one premium pitcher to that mix.