Do 2-3 Significant Things
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Talkin' Baseball
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Do 2-3 Significant Things
Over the next few days I'm going to float several different trade proposals. I don't think we should trade the whole team, but it may seem like it. What I would like is for the team to float enough different things out there that before the deadline they can accomplish 2-3 significant additions. (I restrained myself and waited until the week before the deadline this year!)
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Sounds fun.
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BrockFloodMaris
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Should be fun. For all the fans rooting for Bloom to buy at the trade deadline, let’s not forget that the Cards are only 3.5 games out of fifth place in the NLC.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 17:33 pm Over the next few days I'm going to float several different trade proposals. I don't think we should trade the whole team, but it may seem like it. What I would like is for the team to float enough different things out there that before the deadline they can accomplish 2-3 significant additions. (I restrained myself and waited until the week before the deadline this year!)
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I replied to one of your threads so far. I like that you’re targeting significant and not just prospect depth. Hoarding B class prospects is not going to move the needle far enough.
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I hope so.
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Have at it.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 17:33 pm Over the next few days I'm going to float several different trade proposals. I don't think we should trade the whole team, but it may seem like it. What I would like is for the team to float enough different things out there that before the deadline they can accomplish 2-3 significant additions. (I restrained myself and waited until the week before the deadline this year!)
I'll be reading.
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I don't mind prospects. Every team needs them, and the Cardinals got to a place where they suffered a lack. We needed to add prospects at all levels- especially pitching. We have done that. Not that we are done doing that, but I don't consider us to be at a deficit for prospects anymore. We need certain types of prospects. We've narrowed down a couple of positions of need. The prospects I want now fit in one of the following categories; close to major league ready, position of need (3B, CF), if further from the majors need to be high ceiling, or pitching is always welcome. If we're trading minor league roster redundancies, I'm less picky.
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Although it makes me cringe a little I can see Pallante being dealt.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 17:33 pm Over the next few days I'm going to float several different trade proposals. I don't think we should trade the whole team, but it may seem like it. What I would like is for the team to float enough different things out there that before the deadline they can accomplish 2-3 significant additions. (I restrained myself and waited until the week before the deadline this year!)
You figure with a better team he would be even more effective, he doesn't cost much and it opens a rotation spot for next season.
I'm assuming you have May and Romero as definitely being traded?
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Yes.11WSChamps wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 18:23 pmAlthough it makes me cringe a little I can see Pallante being dealt.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 17:33 pm Over the next few days I'm going to float several different trade proposals. I don't think we should trade the whole team, but it may seem like it. What I would like is for the team to float enough different things out there that before the deadline they can accomplish 2-3 significant additions. (I restrained myself and waited until the week before the deadline this year!)
You figure with a better team he would be even more effective, he doesn't cost much and it opens a rotation spot for next season.
I'm assuming you have May and Romero as definitely being traded?
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Will be fun to see if any of your [shirt] actually happens
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I’m sorry I get a little lost with all the trade proposals. However I respect your research and thought process. But I can’t get straight in my head on how long before we go from rebuild to strong contenders.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 17:33 pm Over the next few days I'm going to float several different trade proposals. I don't think we should trade the whole team, but it may seem like it. What I would like is for the team to float enough different things out there that before the deadline they can accomplish 2-3 significant additions. (I restrained myself and waited until the week before the deadline this year!)
I know 2027 is a dark hole right now but it just seems to me that spending some money on FA talent could get us there by 2028. When we discuss all these potential trades it just seems we are moving a lot further out than 2028.
Considering your trade options what is the overall impact on how long the rebuild lasts?
I’m rambling but I really wish I knew what the goal is for Bloom and the time table that is in his mind.
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I see them as legit playoff contenders in 2027. To me that means they could win a wildcard and have a reasonable hope of advancing. In 2028 I see them as a legit division contender. To me that means they should compete for a division title and have a reasonable hope of advancing deeper. At that point they should have Rainiel Rodriguez and some of the better pitching arriving. In 2029 I expect them to be able to compete with anyone.Jatalk wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 19:10 pmI’m sorry I get a little lost with all the trade proposals. However I respect your research and thought process. But I can’t get straight in my head on how long before we go from rebuild to strong contenders.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 17:33 pm Over the next few days I'm going to float several different trade proposals. I don't think we should trade the whole team, but it may seem like it. What I would like is for the team to float enough different things out there that before the deadline they can accomplish 2-3 significant additions. (I restrained myself and waited until the week before the deadline this year!)
I know 2027 is a dark hole right now but it just seems to me that spending some money on FA talent could get us there by 2028. When we discuss all these potential trades it just seems we are moving a lot further out than 2028.
Considering your trade options what is the overall impact on how long the rebuild lasts?
I’m rambling but I really wish I knew what the goal is for Bloom and the time table that is in his mind.
My expectation is that this should be our last year out of the playoffs for some time. Let's finish the heavy lifting.
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I hear a lot of chatter about the Yankees. If Herrera were to be shopped (I am not insisting he should be), that seems like an ideal team of interest.
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I get your exercise is for fun, however there are some players that I’m not interested in dealing.
As they are currently pitching, I’m looking to keep McGreevy, Pallante, and Leahy. I’m surprised that I am including Leahy, because I’ve spoken out about him belonging in the pen. However, he is changing my mind. I think his biggest obstacle to overcome has been his self confidence, but now he knows he can pitch, and belongs. I’m not trading him now when he’s just touching his ability.
I’d add Mathews to that group, and that’s four pitchers for the rotation. No body else is close in the minors, so I’d look to add one premium pitcher to that mix.
As they are currently pitching, I’m looking to keep McGreevy, Pallante, and Leahy. I’m surprised that I am including Leahy, because I’ve spoken out about him belonging in the pen. However, he is changing my mind. I think his biggest obstacle to overcome has been his self confidence, but now he knows he can pitch, and belongs. I’m not trading him now when he’s just touching his ability.
I’d add Mathews to that group, and that’s four pitchers for the rotation. No body else is close in the minors, so I’d look to add one premium pitcher to that mix.