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Cardinals1964 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:23 pm Just curious. Which outfielders on the Cardinals team are better than Noot besides Walker?
Church is batting .125 with .219 slugging and .383 OPS. in July.
He’s .198 .250 .319 .569 since the start of June. He should be joining Scott 2 and Gorman in the minors.

My intent is not to pick on Church, but I wanna know who are our better outfielders than Nootbar right now?

For what it’s worth I hope they trade them too. But, me wanting a trade and me being able to tell you who our three outfielders should be is another story.
I think all that many of us are saying is that he should not be part of the future, and that's why he should be traded.
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icon wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:30 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:23 pm Just curious. Which outfielders on the Cardinals team are better than Noot besides Walker?
Church is batting .125 with .219 slugging and .383 OPS. in July.
He’s .198 .250 .319 .569 since the start of June. He should be joining Scott 2 and Gorman in the minors.

My intent is not to pick on Church, but I wanna know who are our better outfielders than Nootbar right now?

For what it’s worth I hope they trade them too. But, me wanting a trade and me being able to tell you who our three outfielders should be is another story.
I think all that many of us are saying is that he should not be part of the future, and that's why he should be traded.
I’ll agree with that. But I keep reading how he sucks.
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Cardinals1964 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:38 pm
icon wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:30 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:23 pm Just curious. Which outfielders on the Cardinals team are better than Noot besides Walker?
Church is batting .125 with .219 slugging and .383 OPS. in July.
He’s .198 .250 .319 .569 since the start of June. He should be joining Scott 2 and Gorman in the minors.

My intent is not to pick on Church, but I wanna know who are our better outfielders than Nootbar right now?

For what it’s worth I hope they trade them too. But, me wanting a trade and me being able to tell you who our three outfielders should be is another story.
I think all that many of us are saying is that he should not be part of the future, and that's why he should be traded.
I’ll agree with that. But I keep reading how he sucks.
Well, he does kinda suck for a corner OF. 3 HRs and 15 RBIs in 153 PAs to go with a .714 OPS isn't exactly great while hitting MOTO.
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JuanAgosto wrote: 26 Jul 2026 12:06 pm
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 26 Jul 2026 07:06 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 26 Jul 2026 01:05 am Bloom better move this guy while he can. He's an injury waiting to happen.
Not sure anyone wants him on the other teams.
Geez, you may be right. This deadline may not see much movement or improvement for StL.
Most of our players won't draw any interest, of course everyone will want JJ, Walker, and a few others, pieces we can't afford to part with.
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Lightning Rod wrote: 26 Jul 2026 19:26 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 26 Jul 2026 12:06 pm
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 26 Jul 2026 07:06 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 26 Jul 2026 01:05 am Bloom better move this guy while he can. He's an injury waiting to happen.
Not sure anyone wants him on the other teams.
Geez, you may be right. This deadline may not see much movement or improvement for StL.
Most of our players won't draw any interest, of course everyone will want JJ, Walker, and a few others, pieces we can't afford to part with.
Probably looking at May, Romero, Stanek, and Soriano drawing interest. Small returns.
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Cardinals1964 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:38 pm
icon wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:30 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:23 pm Just curious. Which outfielders on the Cardinals team are better than Noot besides Walker?
Church is batting .125 with .219 slugging and .383 OPS. in July.
He’s .198 .250 .319 .569 since the start of June. He should be joining Scott 2 and Gorman in the minors.

My intent is not to pick on Church, but I wanna know who are our better outfielders than Nootbar right now?

For what it’s worth I hope they trade them too. But, me wanting a trade and me being able to tell you who our three outfielders should be is another story.
I think all that many of us are saying is that he should not be part of the future, and that's why he should be traded.
I’ll agree with that. But I keep reading how he sucks.
Because, in fact, he does.
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Cardinals1964 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:38 pm
icon wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:30 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:23 pm Just curious. Which outfielders on the Cardinals team are better than Noot besides Walker?
Church is batting .125 with .219 slugging and .383 OPS. in July.
He’s .198 .250 .319 .569 since the start of June. He should be joining Scott 2 and Gorman in the minors.

My intent is not to pick on Church, but I wanna know who are our better outfielders than Nootbar right now?

For what it’s worth I hope they trade them too. But, me wanting a trade and me being able to tell you who our three outfielders should be is another story.
I think all that many of us are saying is that he should not be part of the future, and that's why he should be traded.
I’ll agree with that. But I keep reading how he sucks.
He does suck. Do you even watch the games?
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icon wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:30 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:23 pm Just curious. Which outfielders on the Cardinals team are better than Noot besides Walker?
Church is batting .125 with .219 slugging and .383 OPS. in July.
He’s .198 .250 .319 .569 since the start of June. He should be joining Scott 2 and Gorman in the minors.

My intent is not to pick on Church, but I wanna know who are our better outfielders than Nootbar right now?

For what it’s worth I hope they trade them too. But, me wanting a trade and me being able to tell you who our three outfielders should be is another story.
I think all that many of us are saying is that he should not be part of the future, and that's why he should be traded.
One of us has been saying that consistently, repeatedly, and accurately since October of 2022.
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JuanAgosto wrote: 26 Jul 2026 19:31 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:38 pm
icon wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:30 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:23 pm Just curious. Which outfielders on the Cardinals team are better than Noot besides Walker?
Church is batting .125 with .219 slugging and .383 OPS. in July.
He’s .198 .250 .319 .569 since the start of June. He should be joining Scott 2 and Gorman in the minors.

My intent is not to pick on Church, but I wanna know who are our better outfielders than Nootbar right now?

For what it’s worth I hope they trade them too. But, me wanting a trade and me being able to tell you who our three outfielders should be is another story.
I think all that many of us are saying is that he should not be part of the future, and that's why he should be traded.
I’ll agree with that. But I keep reading how he sucks.
He does suck. Do you even watch the games?
The biggest issue with Lars is the Cardinals are trying to make a middle of the order bat out of him, and that’s not who he is.
Noot always works counts and usually looks to draw a walk before getting a hit, so he should be in the first two spots or the last two spots in a batting order. He’s a table setter, but isn’t being used that way. Part of the reason is Marmol’s insistence on using the LRLRLR order.
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Hoosier59 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 19:48 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 26 Jul 2026 19:31 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:38 pm
icon wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:30 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:23 pm Just curious. Which outfielders on the Cardinals team are better than Noot besides Walker?
Church is batting .125 with .219 slugging and .383 OPS. in July.
He’s .198 .250 .319 .569 since the start of June. He should be joining Scott 2 and Gorman in the minors.

My intent is not to pick on Church, but I wanna know who are our better outfielders than Nootbar right now?

For what it’s worth I hope they trade them too. But, me wanting a trade and me being able to tell you who our three outfielders should be is another story.
I think all that many of us are saying is that he should not be part of the future, and that's why he should be traded.
I’ll agree with that. But I keep reading how he sucks.
He does suck. Do you even watch the games?
The biggest issue with Lars is the Cardinals are trying to make a middle of the order bat out of him, and that’s not who he is.
Noot always works counts and usually looks to draw a walk before getting a hit, so he should be in the first two spots or the last two spots in a batting order. He’s a table setter, but isn’t being used that way. Part of the reason is Marmol’s insistence on using the LRLRLR order.
You are not wrong that The Marmot does not know much at all about effective lineups.
And you are not wrong that Mootbaar has no business in the middle of a line-up.
After all, he has never hit 15 HR in a season and nor has ever driven in 50 runs.
But he fits no better in either of the top 2 spots either.
He has never scored 75 runs in a season and averaged just 58.5 in his first 4 full MLB seasons.
Middle order, or near the top, it makes no difference either way.
Lars The Human Sushi-baar has been terrible regardless of which role he is gifted.
And in this, which will be his 5th full season, he is roughly on track for 5 HR, 22 RBI, and 30 runs scored.
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Hoosier59 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 19:48 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 26 Jul 2026 19:31 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:38 pm
icon wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:30 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:23 pm Just curious. Which outfielders on the Cardinals team are better than Noot besides Walker?
Church is batting .125 with .219 slugging and .383 OPS. in July.
He’s .198 .250 .319 .569 since the start of June. He should be joining Scott 2 and Gorman in the minors.

My intent is not to pick on Church, but I wanna know who are our better outfielders than Nootbar right now?

For what it’s worth I hope they trade them too. But, me wanting a trade and me being able to tell you who our three outfielders should be is another story.
I think all that many of us are saying is that he should not be part of the future, and that's why he should be traded.
I’ll agree with that. But I keep reading how he sucks.
He does suck. Do you even watch the games?
The biggest issue with Lars is the Cardinals are trying to make a middle of the order bat out of him, and that’s not who he is.
Noot always works counts and usually looks to draw a walk before getting a hit, so he should be in the first two spots or the last two spots in a batting order. He’s a table setter, but isn’t being used that way. Part of the reason is Marmol’s insistence on using the LRLRLR order.
+1000
He stinks with RISP!
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Well, most of the reason he hasn’t scored many runs is because he hasn’t been able to stay on the field. He has had his moments, but every time he has played well, he comes down with a new injury. He has played in a long streak now without an injury, but he hasn’t really gotten it going either.
I still think there are a few teams that would have interest in him, but the return on him, by himself, might not be what people are expecting.
I’d like to see him bundled with, say May or JoJo, and another piece and maximize the return, even if it’s just one player.
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Hoosier59 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 20:29 pm Well, most of the reason he hasn’t scored many runs is because he hasn’t been able to stay on the field. He has had his moments, but every time he has played well, he comes down with a new injury. He has played in a long streak now without an injury, but he hasn’t really gotten it going either.
I still think there are a few teams that would have interest in him, but the return on him, by himself, might not be what people are expecting.
I’d like to see him bundled with, say May or JoJo, and another piece and maximize the return, even if it’s just one player.
We do agree that he cannot stay on the field.
Of the last 753 games from 2022-2026, he is zero-for-everything in the 243 games he did not play.
243 games with no hits, no runs, no RBI, and no outs record as a defender.
And those 243 games count every bit as much in his over-all performance as those for which somehow managed to show up.
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For his own sake, maybe a change of scenery would be best.
The Cards’ having only Church and NV left as true outfielders does raise my angst about the rest of this season.
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butsir01 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 20:48 pm For his own sake, maybe a change of scenery would be best.
The Cards’ having only Church and NV left as true outfielders does raise my angst about the rest of this season.
NV a true outfielder?
oy vey
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82birds wrote: 26 Jul 2026 20:51 pm
butsir01 wrote: 26 Jul 2026 20:48 pm For his own sake, maybe a change of scenery would be best.
The Cards’ having only Church and NV left as true outfielders does raise my angst about the rest of this season.
NV a true outfielder?
oy vey
I agree, 82, but he is the only other one on the 26-man. Seems like all we have there are infielders playing out of position, and not playing very well at that.