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OldRed
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Here we go again.
Wetherholt2B
HerreraDH
Walker, JRF
Burleson1B
WinnSS R
FermínCF R
Velázquez, LF R
Jordan3B R
Pagés, PC
HerreraDH
Walker, JRF
Burleson1B
WinnSS R
FermínCF R
Velázquez, LF R
Jordan3B R
Pagés, PC
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Goldfan
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Re: Here we go again.
Is Koufax pitching?
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bartleby the scrivener
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Re: Here we go again.
Wondering what's the record for inside-the-park homeruns given up in a season.
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bccardsfan
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Re: Here we go again.
Oli being Oli. I am sure he hopes to grab a lead, then swap Church into CF and V out of the game. I don't understand why Blaze is not hitting in an RBI position instead of Winn..... But I often have problems understanding Oli's lineups...bartleby the scrivener wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:35 am Wondering what's the record for inside-the-park homeruns given up in a season.
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imyourhuckleberry
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Re: Here we go again.
Earlier I was supportive of not putting too much pressure on BJ and give him time get his feet wet. But he's shown he isn't overwhelmed by hitting with runners on base. Time to move him to 5 and see if he keeps eating.bccardsfan wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:42 amOli being Oli. I am sure he hopes to grab a lead, then swap Church into CF and V out of the game. I don't understand why Blaze is not hitting in an RBI position instead of Winn..... But I often have problems understanding Oli's lineups...bartleby the scrivener wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:35 am Wondering what's the record for inside-the-park homeruns given up in a season.
His only downside is with the bases empty
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Yeeeeech.
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bartleby the scrivener
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Re: Here we go again.
It's like he needs a mechanical lure:imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:47 amEarlier I was supportive of not putting too much pressure on BJ and give him time get his feet wet. But he's shown he isn't overwhelmed by hitting with runners on base. Time to move him to 5 and see if he keeps eating.bccardsfan wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:42 amOli being Oli. I am sure he hopes to grab a lead, then swap Church into CF and V out of the game. I don't understand why Blaze is not hitting in an RBI position instead of Winn..... But I often have problems understanding Oli's lineups...bartleby the scrivener wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:35 am Wondering what's the record for inside-the-park homeruns given up in a season.
His only downside is with the bases empty
.153\.194\.203\.397
Yeeeeech.

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Futuregm2
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Re: Here we go again.
Winn is hitting .294/.364/.388 vs LHP. 2nd best batting average vs LHP on the Cardinals behind Walker and 3rd best OBP vs LHP on the Cardinals behind Walker and Herrera. I can see the logic somewhat, although I'd prefer this:bccardsfan wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:42 amOli being Oli. I am sure he hopes to grab a lead, then swap Church into CF and V out of the game. I don't understand why Blaze is not hitting in an RBI position instead of Winn..... But I often have problems understanding Oli's lineups...bartleby the scrivener wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:35 am Wondering what's the record for inside-the-park homeruns given up in a season.
1. Wetherholt
2. Winn
3. Herrera
4. Walker
5. Velazquez
6. Jordan
7. Fermin
8. Burleson (if he has to play)
9. Pages (if he has to catch)
Personally I'd rather sit Burleson, move Jordan to 1B, Fermin to 3B, and play Church and bat him 9th.
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Goldfan
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Re: Here we go again.
All the kids need to play and it’s fun to hit in different spots in the order.bccardsfan wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:42 amOli being Oli. I am sure he hopes to grab a lead, then swap Church into CF and V out of the game. I don't understand why Blaze is not hitting in an RBI position instead of Winn..... But I often have problems understanding Oli's lineups...bartleby the scrivener wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:35 am Wondering what's the record for inside-the-park homeruns given up in a season.
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rockondlouie
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Re: Here we go again.
+1Futuregm2 wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:52 amWinn is hitting .294/.364/.388 vs LHP. 2nd best batting average vs LHP on the Cardinals behind Walker and 3rd best OBP vs LHP on the Cardinals behind Walker and Herrera. I can see the logic somewhat, although I'd prefer this:bccardsfan wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:42 amOli being Oli. I am sure he hopes to grab a lead, then swap Church into CF and V out of the game. I don't understand why Blaze is not hitting in an RBI position instead of Winn..... But I often have problems understanding Oli's lineups...bartleby the scrivener wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:35 am Wondering what's the record for inside-the-park homeruns given up in a season.
1. Wetherholt
2. Winn
3. Herrera
4. Walker
5. Velazquez
6. Jordan
7. Fermin
8. Burleson (if he has to play)
9. Pages (if he has to catch)
Personally I'd rather sit Burleson, move Jordan to 1B, Fermin to 3B, and play Church and bat him 9th.
See how easy it is?
Yet Oli for some reason has never grasped how to set a lineup card.
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imyourhuckleberry
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Re: Here we go again.
Velazquez hasn't met a pitcher unable to strike him out lately. Put Jordan at 5, drop Velazquez to 7 or below until he heats back up.rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 11:00 am+1Futuregm2 wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:52 amWinn is hitting .294/.364/.388 vs LHP. 2nd best batting average vs LHP on the Cardinals behind Walker and 3rd best OBP vs LHP on the Cardinals behind Walker and Herrera. I can see the logic somewhat, although I'd prefer this:bccardsfan wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:42 amOli being Oli. I am sure he hopes to grab a lead, then swap Church into CF and V out of the game. I don't understand why Blaze is not hitting in an RBI position instead of Winn..... But I often have problems understanding Oli's lineups...bartleby the scrivener wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:35 am Wondering what's the record for inside-the-park homeruns given up in a season.
1. Wetherholt
2. Winn
3. Herrera
4. Walker
5. Velazquez
6. Jordan
7. Fermin
8. Burleson (if he has to play)
9. Pages (if he has to catch)
Personally I'd rather sit Burleson, move Jordan to 1B, Fermin to 3B, and play Church and bat him 9th.
See how easy it is?
Yet Oli for some reason has never grasped how to set a lineup card.![]()
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rockondlouie
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Re: Here we go again.
Absolutely, been saying it too:imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 11:07 amVelazquez hasn't met a pitcher unable to strike him out lately. Put Jordan at 5, drop Velazquez to 7 or below until he heats back up.rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 11:00 am+1Futuregm2 wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:52 amWinn is hitting .294/.364/.388 vs LHP. 2nd best batting average vs LHP on the Cardinals behind Walker and 3rd best OBP vs LHP on the Cardinals behind Walker and Herrera. I can see the logic somewhat, although I'd prefer this:bccardsfan wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:42 amOli being Oli. I am sure he hopes to grab a lead, then swap Church into CF and V out of the game. I don't understand why Blaze is not hitting in an RBI position instead of Winn..... But I often have problems understanding Oli's lineups...bartleby the scrivener wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:35 am Wondering what's the record for inside-the-park homeruns given up in a season.
1. Wetherholt
2. Winn
3. Herrera
4. Walker
5. Velazquez
6. Jordan
7. Fermin
8. Burleson (if he has to play)
9. Pages (if he has to catch)
Personally I'd rather sit Burleson, move Jordan to 1B, Fermin to 3B, and play Church and bat him 9th.
See how easy it is?
Yet Oli for some reason has never grasped how to set a lineup card.![]()
Post by rockondlouie » 22 Jul 2026 12:59 pm
And B. Jordan 6th where he might come up w/men on base (he kills it w/men on base).
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imyourhuckleberry
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Re: Here we go again.
He very much seems to not be slowing down in that respect. Eventually he will, but they should be riding him while he's hot. Sort of reminds me of pre-injury Allen Craig. That guy was a beast with men in base. Always thought he'll come back to earth never did until the knee (it was the knee, right). Freak injury? (unless I'm mixing him up with someone else). Brain is a little fuzzy this morning.rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 11:16 amAbsolutely, been saying it too:imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 11:07 amVelazquez hasn't met a pitcher unable to strike him out lately. Put Jordan at 5, drop Velazquez to 7 or below until he heats back up.rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 11:00 am+1Futuregm2 wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:52 amWinn is hitting .294/.364/.388 vs LHP. 2nd best batting average vs LHP on the Cardinals behind Walker and 3rd best OBP vs LHP on the Cardinals behind Walker and Herrera. I can see the logic somewhat, although I'd prefer this:bccardsfan wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:42 amOli being Oli. I am sure he hopes to grab a lead, then swap Church into CF and V out of the game. I don't understand why Blaze is not hitting in an RBI position instead of Winn..... But I often have problems understanding Oli's lineups...bartleby the scrivener wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:35 am Wondering what's the record for inside-the-park homeruns given up in a season.
1. Wetherholt
2. Winn
3. Herrera
4. Walker
5. Velazquez
6. Jordan
7. Fermin
8. Burleson (if he has to play)
9. Pages (if he has to catch)
Personally I'd rather sit Burleson, move Jordan to 1B, Fermin to 3B, and play Church and bat him 9th.
See how easy it is?
Yet Oli for some reason has never grasped how to set a lineup card.![]()
Post by rockondlouie » 22 Jul 2026 12:59 pm
And B. Jordan 6th where he might come up w/men on base (he kills it w/men on base).
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renostl
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Re: Here we go again.
IF we are saying that there are times when they should move Winn upFuturegm2 wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:52 amWinn is hitting .294/.364/.388 vs LHP. 2nd best batting average vs LHP on the Cardinals behind Walker and 3rd best OBP vs LHP on the Cardinals behind Walker and Herrera. I can see the logic somewhat, although I'd prefer this:bccardsfan wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:42 amOli being Oli. I am sure he hopes to grab a lead, then swap Church into CF and V out of the game. I don't understand why Blaze is not hitting in an RBI position instead of Winn..... But I often have problems understanding Oli's lineups...bartleby the scrivener wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:35 am Wondering what's the record for inside-the-park homeruns given up in a season.
1. Wetherholt
2. Winn
3. Herrera
4. Walker
5. Velazquez
6. Jordan
7. Fermin
8. Burleson (if he has to play)
9. Pages (if he has to catch)
Personally I'd rather sit Burleson, move Jordan to 1B, Fermin to 3B, and play Church and bat him 9th.
why not move him to the top and get JJ potentially more ab's with a guy on?
Let him hunt RBI ab's vs OBP ab's.
The Cards have nothing at the end of the lineup that carries any OBP.
The major flaw in moving Walker up to the 2 imo. If the current trends continue
there should be some thought to either Nootbaar or Fermin at the #9 with
the short top-heavy lineups.
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rockondlouie
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Re: Here we go again.
Oh man that would be insanely great if he comes anywhere near a prime A.C.!imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 11:20 amHe very much seems to not be slowing down in that respect. Eventually he will, but they should be riding him while he's hot. Sort of reminds me of pre-injury Allen Craig. That guy was a beast with men in base. Always thought he'll come back to earth never did until the knee (it was the knee, right). Freak injury? (unless I'm mixing him up with someone else). Brain is a little fuzzy this morning.rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 11:16 amAbsolutely, been saying it too:imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 11:07 amVelazquez hasn't met a pitcher unable to strike him out lately. Put Jordan at 5, drop Velazquez to 7 or below until he heats back up.rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 11:00 am+1Futuregm2 wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:52 amWinn is hitting .294/.364/.388 vs LHP. 2nd best batting average vs LHP on the Cardinals behind Walker and 3rd best OBP vs LHP on the Cardinals behind Walker and Herrera. I can see the logic somewhat, although I'd prefer this:bccardsfan wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:42 amOli being Oli. I am sure he hopes to grab a lead, then swap Church into CF and V out of the game. I don't understand why Blaze is not hitting in an RBI position instead of Winn..... But I often have problems understanding Oli's lineups...bartleby the scrivener wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:35 am Wondering what's the record for inside-the-park homeruns given up in a season.
1. Wetherholt
2. Winn
3. Herrera
4. Walker
5. Velazquez
6. Jordan
7. Fermin
8. Burleson (if he has to play)
9. Pages (if he has to catch)
Personally I'd rather sit Burleson, move Jordan to 1B, Fermin to 3B, and play Church and bat him 9th.
See how easy it is?
Yet Oli for some reason has never grasped how to set a lineup card.![]()
Post by rockondlouie » 22 Jul 2026 12:59 pm
And B. Jordan 6th where he might come up w/men on base (he kills it w/men on base).
I fully remember it.........Craig twisted his foot rounding 1st base, got the dreaded Lisfranc injury
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OldRed
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Re: Here we go again.
Yep, just little league . . . LOL! It will be nice when they finally get a good manager.Goldfan wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:52 amAll the kids need to play and it’s fun to hit in different spots in the order.bccardsfan wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:42 amOli being Oli. I am sure he hopes to grab a lead, then swap Church into CF and V out of the game. I don't understand why Blaze is not hitting in an RBI position instead of Winn..... But I often have problems understanding Oli's lineups...bartleby the scrivener wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:35 am Wondering what's the record for inside-the-park homeruns given up in a season.![]()
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Re: Here we go again.
Glad you mentioned Craig. We forget how good he was. He really was a beast with men on base. Jordan has shown similar tendencies with men on base. Good comp.imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 11:20 amHe very much seems to not be slowing down in that respect. Eventually he will, but they should be riding him while he's hot. Sort of reminds me of pre-injury Allen Craig. That guy was a beast with men in base. Always thought he'll come back to earth never did until the knee (it was the knee, right). Freak injury? (unless I'm mixing him up with someone else). Brain is a little fuzzy this morning.rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 11:16 amAbsolutely, been saying it too:imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 11:07 amVelazquez hasn't met a pitcher unable to strike him out lately. Put Jordan at 5, drop Velazquez to 7 or below until he heats back up.rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 11:00 am+1Futuregm2 wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:52 amWinn is hitting .294/.364/.388 vs LHP. 2nd best batting average vs LHP on the Cardinals behind Walker and 3rd best OBP vs LHP on the Cardinals behind Walker and Herrera. I can see the logic somewhat, although I'd prefer this:bccardsfan wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:42 amOli being Oli. I am sure he hopes to grab a lead, then swap Church into CF and V out of the game. I don't understand why Blaze is not hitting in an RBI position instead of Winn..... But I often have problems understanding Oli's lineups...bartleby the scrivener wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026 10:35 am Wondering what's the record for inside-the-park homeruns given up in a season.
1. Wetherholt
2. Winn
3. Herrera
4. Walker
5. Velazquez
6. Jordan
7. Fermin
8. Burleson (if he has to play)
9. Pages (if he has to catch)
Personally I'd rather sit Burleson, move Jordan to 1B, Fermin to 3B, and play Church and bat him 9th.
See how easy it is?
Yet Oli for some reason has never grasped how to set a lineup card.![]()
Post by rockondlouie » 22 Jul 2026 12:59 pm
And B. Jordan 6th where he might come up w/men on base (he kills it w/men on base).